SirSmUgly Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Ringside confessions? Who would even-- Oh, Tumblr, right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 So, discussion time. I found the following on Facebook, and I think there's a certain amount of truth here. What say you all? Or people just enjoy different things? This. Don't like it, don't watch it. It's not like the people that watch NJPW (or AAA, or LU, or anything other than WWE) on this board lord it over the people that only watch WWE. We lord it over people that watch only TNA, because well, if you only watch TNA, you deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamp, broken circa 1988 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I don't think people are being contrarian about the NJ hype. It's fresh to them, and that means a whole lot. But even against like against New Japan from earlier this decade, New Japan is pretty overrated. And even that stuff measures up SUPER poorly to what NJ was putting out in the 80s and 90s. important side note: I tend to believe 90s NJPW is the peak of Japanese wrasslin, tied with 90s M-Pro and proper actual Toryumon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I don't think people are being contrarian about the NJ hype. It's fresh to them, and that means a whole lot. But even against like against New Japan from earlier this decade, New Japan is pretty overrated. And even that stuff measures up SUPER poorly to what NJ was putting out in the 80s and 90s. important side note: I tend to believe 90s NJPW is the peak of Japanese wrasslin, tied with 90s M-Pro and proper actual Toryumon. Well, if we're compairing current output to previous timeframes, current WWE can't hold the jock of late 80's/early 90's WWF (Mania 1-10 era), and late 91/92 WCW was pretty untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I don't think people are being contrarian about the NJ hype. It's fresh to them, and that means a whole lot. But even against like against New Japan from earlier this decade, New Japan is pretty overrated. And even that stuff measures up SUPER poorly to what NJ was putting out in the 80s and 90s. important side note: I tend to believe 90s NJPW is the peak of Japanese wrasslin, tied with 90s M-Pro and proper actual Toryumon. Well, if we're compairing current output to previous timeframes, current WWE can't hold the jock of late 80's/early 90's WWF (Mania 1-10 era), and late 91/92 WCW was pretty untouchable. I'd put current WWE over 1988-1992 WWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I disagree. I don't believe that the big NJPW matches are overrated. As an overall product, I feel it's fairly par with WWE. Of course, I also don't shove my fandom in anyone's face. Perhaps there are those who do and those people may be doing it to feel cool. That fact should not take away from the excellent performances guys like Tanahashi, Okada, Nakamura, and even Styles have been putting out. Oh, and if you argue that Ishii is overrated I don't want to talk to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Again, that's taste. I'd value the consistant storylines up and down the card along with better, more cohesive in-ring product telling a story throughout of 85-93 WWF than the rolutte wheel match making and paint-by-numbers performance of current Indy-lite WWE, but that's me, and your milage may vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamp, broken circa 1988 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I'm with Nature Boy on enjoying the current WW more, but you're right in the history comparison thing being a trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 There is always backlash to anything that becomes popular, for certain, but I also think that having a tastemaker like Dave Meltzer explain away faults in NJ matches while hammering other companies for the same faults is part of it too. Not that I blame Meltzer for this because he's a fan, and as fans, we all forgive our favorite wrestlers or companies for faults that we don't forgive in others, but people are really starting to notice/make jokes and memes out of Meltzer's bias toward NJ. I enjoy what I see. I've been watching G1 matches from this year, and most of them have just been okay, to be honest, but it's nice to have another company that can put forth some intriguing matchups on a big-time stage. Now if only they'd do a NJ World app in English on Roku/PS4... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 70's NWA World Title scene and 70's-mid 90's AJPW are my favorites ever. With that said, I can still totally pick through the current WWE product and find great wrestling. NXT has also entertained the shit out of me for the past year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 '87-'89 NWA for life. It's the most fun that I've ever had with wrestling. I'd put '96-'98 WWE, '91-93 WWE, '92-'96 WCW. and everything I've seen of '84-'85 Portland on that one dude's YouTube channel up there, too. Oh, and '77-81 WoS. No particular order after '87-'89 NWA. They're all tied for second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 For more proof that Titus O'Neil is awesome http://www.sbnation.com/2015/8/1/9085105/wwe-superstar-titus-oneil-treats-more-homeless-people-to-dinner-after-restaurant 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Titus could well be my favorite wrestler who isn't that great in-ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Titus had become the best hot tag in the WWE, if nothing else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEmanWITHnoNAME Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Are you ready for....................BEEF MODE!? It looks like we may be getting a new WWE tag team in Adam Rose and Brad Maddox. They teamed up as "Beef Mode" at last night's WWE live event in Hidalgo, Texas and lost to the team of Damien Sandow and Curtis Axel.Maddox and Rose wore matching gear and cut a promo on how they were in better shape than the fans. Rose also referred to he and Maddox as "BFFs" and then they hugged. They were also doing push-ups and jogging around in the ring. One fan in attendance referred to them as WWE's new "ambiguously gay duo" and said they were doing a "genetic heel fitness freak" gimmick.Below is a photo from one of WWE's official Twitter accounts: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I'll say this for New Japan. I like their product enough to slog through a month long tournament, running a show almost everyday, that I only had mild interest in. I can't say I'd do the same for any other promotion, include the ones I have direct input in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I really like 97-01 ECW. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 People getting mad at other people liking things is an extremely Internet thing to do (not saying anyone here is doing that, just referencing the implication of the post). I do think that NJPW is currently more entertaining than WWE, but I dunno why that opinion would get people up in a tizzy, its just a personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyMax46 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I would have an opinion but then I looked at the place that picture came from and thought better of it. Tumblr and 4Chan are the two scourges of the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_W_P Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Hope that Rose/Maddox team works out. Maddox has alot of stooge charisma and Rose is a solid hand in the ring and seems like a really nice guy who will run with anything you give him. Hope they can get a finish as good as the Jordan/Gable super bridging back suplex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 It looks like we may be getting a new WWE tag team in Adam Rose and Brad Maddox. They teamed up as "Beef Mode" at last night's WWE live event in Hidalgo, Texas and lost to the team of Damien Sandow and Curtis Axel.Maddox and Rose wore matching gear and cut a promo on how they were in better shape than the fans. Rose also referred to he and Maddox as "BFFs" and then they hugged. They were also doing push-ups and jogging around in the ring. One fan in attendance referred to them as WWE's new "ambiguously gay duo" and said they were doing a "genetic heel fitness freak" gimmick.Below is a photo from one of WWE's official Twitter accounts: Pah. They're not Bull-Fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Titus had become the best hot tag in the WWE, if nothing else. He's a pretty good talker too. He occasionally stumbles, but he puts out enough gold to neutralise that. He knows how to talk smack as a babyface and that's a talent. The PTPs and The New Day could feud forever as far as I'm concerned, but I definitely hope that the Usos turn heel when they return because Titus and Darren are *the team* as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Beef Mode ain't shit w/o Kofi Kingston. ROAD BEEF~! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Is Beef Mode anything like Brie Mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Is Beef Mode anything like Brie Mode? Yes but you black out from to much steak not booze 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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