Matt D Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Ernie Ladd was pretty awesome. Let's talk about him for 26 pages instead. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Aren't Heenan and Hogan real life friends though? Yes. And folks wanna talk about having their childhood ruined... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I wish Bobby Heenan had a twitter right now. #HULKAMANIA is DEAD #humanoids #what have I been saying all these years, dummies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Has technology reached a point where Vince can have John Cena slam Andre? Cena slamming an Andre hologram? Or just have him slam Big Show and Big Show's Andre battle royal trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 I'm not sure if this has been said, I guess the issue I have with it is, why should I care if Hogan is racist? Lots of people are racist. Some white people are racist, some black people are racist, some Asians are racists. People are sexist, homophobic, you name it. I guess I don't look at wrestlers as super humans, I know people in my every day life that hate some other type of people, whether it be friends, family, or co-workers. Hogan not wanting his daughter to date a black person has zero impact on my life and zero impact on how I feel about him because he was just a wrestler to me. And I'll still enjoy his matches, hate his backstage politics, etc. the same today as I did a week ago. His personal views on life don't really matter to me, he's just a dude from Florida to me when it comes to personal life. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Are we supposed to ignore terrible things when they land in front of us? We call each other out on stuff on this board all the time, why would we give Hogan a pass? Maybe some of us just don't feel like shrugging it off anymore. We've been told 'shit happens' forever and maybe we're just tired of it. Sorry for the mini-sermon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I'm not sure if this has been said, I guess the issue I have with it is, why should I care if Hogan is racist? Lots of people are racist. Some white people are racist, some black people are racist, some Asians are racists. People are sexist, homophobic, you name it. I guess I don't look at wrestlers as super humans, I know people in my every day life that hate some other type of people, whether it be friends, family, or co-workers. Hogan not wanting his daughter to date a black person has zero impact on my life and zero impact on how I feel about him because he was just a wrestler to me. And I'll still enjoy his matches, hate his backstage politics, etc. the same today as I did a week ago. His personal views on life don't really matter to me, he's just a dude from Florida to me when it comes to personal life. Well you don't have to care. But that also doesn't mean everyone else doesn't have to care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I don't even like Hogan's matches. His promos were always the same. He was a son of a bitch backstage and NOW we know he's a bigot. I'm all for throwing the piece of shit away. Did you guys hear the latest? Big Fresh is a racist. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 I'm not sure if this has been said, I guess the issue I have with it is, why should I care if Hogan is racist? Lots of people are racist. Some white people are racist, some black people are racist, some Asians are racists. People are sexist, homophobic, you name it. I guess I don't look at wrestlers as super humans, I know people in my every day life that hate some other type of people, whether it be friends, family, or co-workers. Hogan not wanting his daughter to date a black person has zero impact on my life and zero impact on how I feel about him because he was just a wrestler to me. And I'll still enjoy his matches, hate his backstage politics, etc. the same today as I did a week ago. His personal views on life don't really matter to me, he's just a dude from Florida to me when it comes to personal life. Well you don't have to care. But that also doesn't mean everyone else doesn't have to care. This is a message board where people are giving their opinions on the issue, not a thread that people can only post if they agree with you. People just pick and choose what they get annoyed about depending on the wrestler that does it, I don't see any anger about WWE still using people convicted of actual crimes (Austin, Tyson, etc.), but being a racist is somehow worse. Would be interesting to see if Cena made a similar comment if he would be equally condemned by WWE and everyone online. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 n/m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I'm not sure if this has been said, I guess the issue I have with it is, why should I care if Hogan is racist? Lots of people are racist. Some white people are racist, some black people are racist, some Asians are racists. People are sexist, homophobic, you name it. I guess I don't look at wrestlers as super humans, I know people in my every day life that hate some other type of people, whether it be friends, family, or co-workers. Hogan not wanting his daughter to date a black person has zero impact on my life and zero impact on how I feel about him because he was just a wrestler to me. And I'll still enjoy his matches, hate his backstage politics, etc. the same today as I did a week ago. His personal views on life don't really matter to me, he's just a dude from Florida to me when it comes to personal life. Well you don't have to care. But that also doesn't mean everyone else doesn't have to care. This is a message board where people are giving their opinions on the issue, not a thread that people can only post if they agree with you. People just pick and choose what they get annoyed about depending on the wrestler that does it, I don't see any anger about WWE still using people convicted of actual crimes (Austin, Tyson, etc.), but being a racist is somehow worse. Would be interesting to see if Cena made a similar comment if he would be equally condemned by WWE and everyone online. In this day and age YES YES He would and the many who don't like Cena to begin with would use it as the tip of the spear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 It would likely be much worse for Cena, given his squeaky-clean image and PR work. Would you want to explain to a make a wish kid that Cena said bad words about (aggrevied minority culture/race/gender/orientation)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 This is a message board where people are giving their opinions on the issue, not a thread that people can only post if they agree with you. People just pick and choose what they get annoyed about depending on the wrestler that does it, I don't see any anger about WWE still using people convicted of actual crimes (Austin, Tyson, etc.), but being a racist is somehow worse. Would be interesting to see if Cena made a similar comment if he would be equally condemned by WWE and everyone online. Austin and Tyson have gotten plenty of criticism. Some folks mention Scott Hall and Jimmy Snuka regularly, too. The 'it doesn't impact my life' is a cop-out. If something abuses their child and I know it, I'm now in the clear in not reporting it because it doesn't directly affect me? Come on. You're dangerously close to coming across as an apologist for Hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Cena slamming an Andre hologram? Or just have him slam Big Show and Big Show's Andre battle royal trophy. No, I mean CGI John Cena into WrestleMania III and have him slam Andre with Ventura on commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Ernie Ladd was pretty awesome. Let's talk about him for 26 pages instead. His WOTD Thread is right there And it is criminally under posted in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I don't even like Hogan's matches. His promos were always the same. He was a son of a bitch backstage and NOW we know he's a bigot. I'm all for throwing the piece of shit away. Did you guys hear the latest? Big Fresh is a racist. God damnit, I was on your side for your first paragraph! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 This is a message board where people are giving their opinions on the issue, not a thread that people can only post if they agree with you. People just pick and choose what they get annoyed about depending on the wrestler that does it, I don't see any anger about WWE still using people convicted of actual crimes (Austin, Tyson, etc.), but being a racist is somehow worse. Would be interesting to see if Cena made a similar comment if he would be equally condemned by WWE and everyone online. Austin and Tyson have gotten plenty of criticism. Some folks mention Scott Hall and Jimmy Snuka regularly, too. The 'it doesn't impact my life' is a cop-out. If something abuses their child and I know it, I'm now in the clear in not reporting it because it doesn't directly affect me? Come on. You're dangerously close to coming across as an apologist for Hogan. I'm pretty sure he's saying he doesn't care. Which is the point, why should anyone care? Should we collectively call the police on Hogan for being a geriatric racist piece of shit? Comparing a celebrity admitting to being a racist and then using racial slurs to knowing someone in your personal life that beats their children or spouse... not totally on the mark there. One issue I don't care about, and one I definitely would. I'll let you decide which is which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Yes, let's not care about racism. It's the way to go! And I don't have to know you--if I see you beat your child in Walmart, I'm looking to report you (because at my Wally World, there's only a 50% chance someone else, including an employee, would). ******************************** It's been fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Because I don't care if Hulk Hogan is a racist or not, I automatically don't care about racism? That's quite the stretch. I don't know Hulk Hogan, so how am I supposed to impact his life and make him realize his views on race are wrong? Should I tweet him about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew POE! Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 My whole problem with this whole episode on Hulk Hogan is if it wasn't for Hogan, the WWE really wouldn't be where it is today. Sure, Vince could have gotten someone else (Magnum T.A. if he didn't end his career prematurely, Dr. D David Schultz, Dusty Rhodes), but I don't think the WWE would have gotten as far (nor sold out WrestleMania III). There's honestly no excuse for Hogan's current behavior, but giving him the Benoit treatment for everything he's done is knee-jerk reactionary and typical Vince McMahon. Will this mean every match with Hogan on the WWE Network is gone too (if that's the case, there goes a lot of people's reasons for subscribing)? If the WWE now all of sudden is against racism or discrimination, why hasn't Vince been fired for saying the 'n-word' on TV (albeit in a storyline)? Why hasn't Akeem the African Dream been purged? Or Saba Simba? Or Kamala? After awhile, the WWE will run out of people whose behavior they are ashamed of being associated with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Eh, it's the same deal everyone does when they do something racist, commit violence toward women or children, etc. Half the people out there are already justifying Hogan's behavior. All he has to do is act as if he's penitent and wait for the never-ending news cycle to latch onto something else. Like, I'm sure Floyd Mayweather won't be able to help himself and will be punching a defenseless woman soon enough. Then, Hogan can lay low for a few months, maybe a couple years, before coming back under the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Eh, it's the same deal everyone does when they do something racist, commit violence toward women or children, etc. Half the people out there are already justifying Hogan's behavior. All he has to do is act as if he's penitent and wait for the never-ending news cycle to latch onto something else. Like, I'm sure Floyd Mayweather won't be able to help himself and will be punching a defenseless woman soon enough. Then, Hogan can lay low for a few months, maybe a couple years, before coming back under the radar. NFL training camps are about to open so you'll have everyone focused on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 The Rock passes the paper bag test. Just barely.In all seriousness, the idea that the Rock counts as being "black" shows how fucked-up our perceptions about race still are in common society. He's half pureblood Samoan on his mom's side, and Rocky Johnson is pale enough that he clearly has plenty of European DNA in his genes. Yet we're still taught to look at people like Dwayne, with considerably less than 50% African ancestry, as being "a black guy". It probably all traces back to the One Drop rule of slavery: that is, if anyone had so much as one drop of African blood in their veins, they were legally considered black and could be owned as slaves. That attitude has never entirely gone away, and that's how you get a modern society which is still so weird about race that someone like Rachel Dolezal can pass for black with nothing but a spray-tan and a perm. I'm not quite sure why people got on you for this post. We accept more and more that gender is a construct, but we still don't quite get that race is a construct in this country. I had to check myself when The Rock wanted to be identified as Samoan because I was like, "What, is he ashamed of being black?" But it isn't about me, and to fall into that sort of stupidity just validates the way we think about race in this country as being part of your blood. Race is nothing but a cultural construct, and really, you should be able to identify how you want to without getting shit from everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Oh, I think Hogan will be back. When I read the transcript of what he said it was very disturbing and I'll never forget it. I even said to a couple friends "he's not coming back from this" but the more I think about it.. sadly people have come back from worse in the entertainment business. I don't think you can fault WWE's swift action. They had to do this. Right now Hulk Hogan being a racist piece of crap is the story. If Vince didn't act right away the story becomes "why?" No fucking way in hell they could risk that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I don't even like Hogan's matches. His promos were always the same. He was a son of a bitch backstage and NOW we know he's a bigot. I'm all for throwing the piece of shit away. Did you guys hear the latest? Big Fresh is a racist. Fucking lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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