Niners Fan in CT Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I always hated that in some matches the referee will allow the guys to brawl outside for an hour and not even bother to count but other times the fucker is counting to ten like it's his job (which it is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Kurt Angle can be bad the same way, using a dozen suplexes to set up his finisher... the anklelock. Huh? Geez, at least guys like Flair and Bret usually bothered to do at least a little token softening-up-the-leg before putting on their submission hold. All those suplexes attack your core, making it harder for you to find the strength to crawl to the ropes/do a rolling counter. The anklelock is MMA-approved, so it doesn't require pre-softening. Sometimes ya just gotta read between the lines and come up with your own answers... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 They said to count to ten. They never said ten seconds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I didn't realize you could count to ten. Congrats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ka-to Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get rid of the invisible camera that can travel anywhere by magic powers. Get rid of the entrance music that stops people from wrestling or talking by magic powers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get rid of the invisible camera that can travel anywhere by magic powers. Speaking of cameras, could we do without the whole zoom in on every move's impact? One of the many reasons I cannot watch WWE/TNA, cause that shit is nauseating. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Evil authority figures (heel gm/owner) Babyface authority figures (how many do not turn heel?) Cool heels Edgy babyfaces (Austin as a dick babyface worked, but that was a rare case) The wrestling maxim that all babyfaces are friends and all heels are allies, and the babyface you set on fire during your blood feud two weeks ago is now willing to tag with you because you turned face last week nWo knockoffs (worked for a reason: it was original!) The 619 (if Petey Williams did that instead of beloved babyface Rey, we'd all be insane with rage) Tag teams who always get along and have perfect teamwork - until they have some miscommunication, at which point you can bet the house that they'll split up at the next ppv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bink_winkleman Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 "This is awesome" and "Holy shit" can fuck right off. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Tag teams who always get along and have perfect teamwork - until they have some miscommunication, at which point you can bet the house that they'll split up at the next ppv On this note, the eventual split up of successful tag teams. Sometimes two guys just have great chemistry together and the sum is greater than the parts. If that's the case, keep them together and avoid splitting them up as it usually ends up in both guys drifting into obscurity or realizing the error of the ways and putting them back together. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 One wrestler knocking the other out to the floor before commercial breaks. how convenient that this happens in nearly everydamn match with a break on WWE tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Pretty sure the Heel Authority Figure -- especially when cutting the Shakespeare Solliloquy-length promo at the start of EVERY SHOW -- is the one I'm most tired of. I was sick of these 14 years ago. Stopped watching for years, started back up for a while a couple months ago around wrestlemania time, and my first thought was "wait, they STILL do this?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Actually everything else mentioned in this thread I agree with, but the Heel Authority Figure + 20 minute opening monologue combo is my clear #1. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Tag teams who always get along and have perfect teamwork - until they have some miscommunication, at which point you can bet the house that they'll split up at the next ppv On this note, the eventual split up of successful tag teams. Sometimes two guys just have great chemistry together and the sum is greater than the parts. If that's the case, keep them together and avoid splitting them up as it usually ends up in both guys drifting into obscurity or realizing the error of the ways and putting them back together. I blame the main event success of Bret and Shawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Every feud needing 3 PPV matches. Come the fuck on. That's actually one of my favorite tropes that I grew up with and dates back to the old days of MSG and Philly shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I feel like if everyone booked a little more like 70s All Japan we'd be in a good place This. Fuck it, this AGAIN. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Counters/contrived set-up maneuvers as regular parts of people's movesets (eg. Kidman's power bomb reversal, Rey's 619, Orton's rope-hung DDT, Ambrose's rebound clothesline) WWE's "get yer moves in" match-calling style in general, particularly in TV matches where squeezing two guys' movesets in leaves little time for any variation That last point is huge for me, and probably the BIGGEST reason I hate the WWE style of wrestling. No matter what, every guy HAS to hit all his shit, whether it makes sense or not. I think that's what makes something like Banks vs Lynch stand out. They weren't focused on doing their signature spots. They were focused on delivering a match that looked like a legit contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyMax46 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Matches only ending after one wrestler hits "His Move" It telegraphs the finish. And it means no one cares about the finish until that move is hit. Shit, even Cena has two finishers. Everyone should have three moves they get wins with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyMax46 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Blood feuds that start with a lockup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Mar Alonso Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Any time "police" get involved in an angle. Okay, obviously, the Mountie spending the night in jail was glorious, but that's an exception, since that was a stipulation of losing to the Boss Man. I mean any time a wrestler gets "arrested," I hope I never have to sit through one of those again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyMax46 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Cage matches with escape rules. The only time this match has ever worked is SummerSlam 94. Both men tried to really get over they were doing anything they could to get out of the cage. Nowadays cage matches have people doing a bunch of moves until they go "Okay, it's time to get out of the cage." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyMax46 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 WWE themes made to get a Pavlovian response with a loud noise or note at the beginning. The perfect example is WWE adding a "WHOO" to Flair's theme. It's all just a cheap attempt to get a pop. "You heard WHOO. Now cheer. Flair is coming out." NO SHIT FLAIR IS COMING OUT. You didn't need to add that. He's had the same song for fuck knows how long. It's either a cheap attempt to get a response or WWE just thinks we are that stupid that we need some kind of noise to tell the fans what song is about to play. They think we need a audio cue, for the audio cue they are about to give us. What the fuck kind of backwards ass retarded logic is that? I don't like the fact that there are only two types of women to WWE. 1. Crazy or 2. Bitchy. I should be surprised because I'm fairly certain every male member of the WWE creative team ever had sex with a woman that they didn't pay. So they take it out on the women they write for. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 WWE themes made to get a Pavlovian response with a loud noise or note at the beginning. The perfect example is WWE adding a "WHOO" to Flair's theme. It's all just a cheap attempt to get a pop. "You heard WHOO. Now cheer. Flair is coming out." NO SHIT FLAIR IS COMING OUT. You didn't need to add that. He's had the same song for fuck knows how long. It's either a cheap attempt to get a response or WWE just thinks we are that stupid that we need some kind of noise to tell the fans what song is about to play. They think we need a audio cue, for the audio cue they are about to give us. What the fuck kind of backwards ass retarded logic is that? I don't like the fact that there are only two types of women to WWE. 1. Crazy or 2. Bitchy. I should be surprised because I'm fairly certain every male member of the WWE creative team ever had sex with a woman that they didn't pay. So they take it out on the women they write for. What are you implying about Linda and Stephanie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 WWE themes made to get a Pavlovian response with a loud noise or note at the beginning. The perfect example is WWE adding a "WHOO" to Flair's theme. It's all just a cheap attempt to get a pop. "You heard WHOO. Now cheer. Flair is coming out." NO SHIT FLAIR IS COMING OUT. You didn't need to add that. He's had the same song for fuck knows how long. It's either a cheap attempt to get a response or WWE just thinks we are that stupid that we need some kind of noise to tell the fans what song is about to play. They think we need a audio cue, for the audio cue they are about to give us. What the fuck kind of backwards ass retarded logic is that? I don't like the fact that there are only two types of women to WWE. 1. Crazy or 2. Bitchy. I should be surprised because I'm fairly certain every male member of the WWE creative team ever had sex with a woman that they didn't pay. So they take it out on the women they write for. What are you implying about Linda and Stephanie? Linda always struck me as someone who was not terribly involved in the creative process. Stephanie seems to either have a low opinion of other women or is easily manipulated by her father's vision of how women on TV should be. Her husband does a great job with women in NXT though so I have no idea what's going on with Steph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I think match layouts have become a trope that needs to die on occasion. Let the heels win once in a while before the hot tag, Let the faces in tag matches win early a few times. Would make those hot tags mean more if fans knew they weren't guaranteed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 WWE themes made to get a Pavlovian response with a loud noise or note at the beginning. The perfect example is WWE adding a "WHOO" to Flair's theme. It's all just a cheap attempt to get a pop. "You heard WHOO. Now cheer. Flair is coming out." NO SHIT FLAIR IS COMING OUT. You didn't need to add that. He's had the same song for fuck knows how long. It's either a cheap attempt to get a response or WWE just thinks we are that stupid that we need some kind of noise to tell the fans what song is about to play. They think we need a audio cue, for the audio cue they are about to give us. What the fuck kind of backwards ass retarded logic is that? I don't like the fact that there are only two types of women to WWE. 1. Crazy or 2. Bitchy. I should be surprised because I'm fairly certain every male member of the WWE creative team ever had sex with a woman that they didn't pay. So they take it out on the women they write for. What are you implying about Linda and Stephanie? Linda always struck me as someone who was not terribly involved in the creative process. Stephanie seems to either have a low opinion of other women or is easily manipulated by her father's vision of how women on TV should be. Her husband does a great job with women in NXT though so I have no idea what's going on with Steph. Erm, I think he was pointing out that Vince and HHH are "male members of the WWE creative time", and noting that per the previous poster's comment, he was alleging any sex they had with Linda and Stephanie was paid for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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