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17 hours ago, (BP) said:

Heads up for anyone interested that Channel Zero season 2 starts tonight on SyFy. This season they're doing the No-End House creepy pasta story.

Holy fuck.  I have seen absolutely nada marketing for the new season on Syfy.  Thanks for the heads up!

 

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SYFY has been good enough to upload the full first episode of Channel Zero S2: No-End House to YouTube!  Yay!

I can watch it at my desk, sip my coffee, and fake like I am paying attention to this dumb online Army cold weather training vid that I have watch before Friday!

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I'm not entirely up on the whole creepypasta thing but it tripped me out that they were selling Jeff The Killer Halloween costumes a couple years back.  Like, some 12-year-old wrote a little story on the internet, and now you can buy an actual mass produced costume based on that story.

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12 minutes ago, S.K.o.S. said:

I'm not entirely up on the whole creepypasta thing but it tripped me out that they were selling Jeff The Killer Halloween costumes a couple years back.  Like, some 12-year-old wrote a little story on the internet, and now you can buy an actual mass produced costume based on that story.

I'm still reeling over the idea that a fake boogeyman created for a contest to see who could craft the best paranormal urban legend in a forum I used to lurk when I was fresh out of college has become an internet sensation in my adult years and formed the zeitgeist of two disturbed girls that tried to murder one of their friends.

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I really liked the first episode of No-End House. The atmosphere for the rooms was terrific, and I think it's neat that the rest of the series seems like it'll take place in Room 6. I'm assuming each episode we'll get background on what the other kids saw in their respective rooms 4 and 5. 

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21 hours ago, (BP) said:

I really liked the first episode of No-End House. The atmosphere for the rooms was terrific, and I think it's neat that the rest of the series seems like it'll take place in Room 6. I'm assuming each episode we'll get background on what the other kids saw in their respective rooms 4 and 5. 

I agree.

My thoughts.:

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Room 3 obviously represented the nightmare that Margot has about her grandmother's house, it was awesome to notice that she was so frightened out of her wits that she had to will herself to walk forward because her feet did not want to respond.

Little things.

It looks like the show will keep up with the story's theme about dealing with repressed anxieties and facing down your fears.

I like that the producers retained the swerve from the story (the number of the last room being the house address of the storyteller = dealing with your hidden trauma in real life), and I hope the story doesn't take an overly supernatural route to explain why the doppleganger of Margot's father is in the kitchen.

I'm guessing that the man who assaulted Lacey at the beginning of the episode will turn out to be the mysterious entity known as "Management" from the original creepypasta, or he is the unnamed abstract artist from the plaque in Room 1 that created the No-End House experience.

Brilliant stuff so far!

 

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There is one major difference between the creepypasta story and the show.

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The house in the story has ten rooms while in the interest of run time, the house in the story only has six.

 

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For those unfamiliar with the creepypasta story this season of Channel Zero is based on:

The original story has no official follow up tales.  No-End House II and Return to No-End House were written by other people.

 

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16 hours ago, The Comedian said:

Does the No-End House show retain how the original story was

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a metaphor for drug addiction?

 

Not really..

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The story seems to be about the horror associated with denial, but drug addiction isn't traumatic circumstance that is being circumnavigated.

Margot has put her life on hold because of the guilt she feels about her father's death.  She uses the excuse that she's not ready to deal with her feelings and she's waiting for a "good time" to start mending her life back together, but the No-End House is forcing the issue and teaching her that bottling up her grief is very destructive.

 

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So is Friend Request the first horror "bomb" in awhile?

I mean bomb is a relative term for horror movies but Friend Request only made $2.4 million when its projections where between $8-10 million. And its production budget is a hair under $10 million ($9.9 per Box Office Mojo)

I feel like all the horror movies recently (that at least get promoted) are at least doing decently. But I also could be missing like 100 titles from the like last 18 months

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23 minutes ago, RIPPA said:

So is Friend Request the first horror "bomb" in awhile?

IIRC, the last "horror" film that bombed that dramatically was the late 2016 psychological horror / thriller, Shut In.

Of course, mileage will vary once people start debating what constitutes a "horror" film.

The short list of major box office failures in the horror genre also reads like a who's who of cult favorites like The Mist, Slither, You're Next, Frailty, Event Horizon, Wes Craven's New Nightmare, and John Carpenter's beloved genre benders, The Thing and They Live.

"Bomb" is a very suggestive term in horror, though.  Even movies that are critically panned and mildly profitable can be considered successful, while well reviewed movies (like most of the ones above) that underperform slightly are still labeled as "box office bombs."

 

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Just now, Curt McGirt said:

Does mother! count? We were even talking about that recently. It's still playing at the local but I wouldn't give that one more week, tops. 

Yeah, I suppose it does even though I consider it more of a surreal psychological thriller not terribly unlike Black Swan.

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Some of the movies JT mentioned aren't even bombs in that they at least made beyond their production budget - The Mist and Frailty for example.

And The Thing just got boned by a bad release day (same day as Blade Runner and two weeks after ET)

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15 minutes ago, RIPPA said:

Some of the movies JT mentioned aren't even bombs in that they at least made beyond their production budget - The Mist and Frailty for example.

The Mist and Frailty did not meet expected projections by wide margins so in comparison to other horror releases, they were outright disappointments.

Some of the worst reviewed horror films ever still manage to earn a decent profit, so a movie like The Mist or Frailty that earns rave reviews and barely manages to break even is a bomb by horror movie standards.

The Thing? Yeah.  Bad box office brought on by the perfect storm of a really crappy release date.

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Some stuff I watched this weekend...

It - This was ok I guess.  Nothing actively bad but I didn't think it was particularly noteworthy, though I'll have to see this again to really get a better opinion.  I first read the source material when I was around the same age as the kids in the book and have revisited it several times since then.  The first adaptation (which I didn't think was very good) gave the kids' portion of the story roughly the same amount of screen time yet seemed to flesh out their backstories a lot better.  The development of the kids' friendships and individual stories are one of the bigger points of the plot yet came off as rushed.  It was all the little things being needlessly changed (Ben and Mike's roles being swapped and other backstories being omitted or edited) that kind of bugged me.  Trying to make Pennywise itself and the Neibolt street house look all generically American Horror Story type "creepy" had pretty much the opposite effect for me, it came off as more corny than genuinely scary.

Cult of Chucky - Another case of trying to milk a franchise for all it's worth. This didn't have the campyness the more recent installments have, but it came off as really cheap (minimal cast and sets).  Naturally the ending set up for further movies.

The Houses October Built 2 - Much like the first movie this was a case of an interesting premise degraded by the found footage gimmick.  This installment has a lot less of the POV segments which are made almost unwatchable because of the lighting and jerky camera conditions though. Despite the bad camerawork of the first movie it at least had a sense of actual danger and something spooky going on whereas that's not here at all, especially with the way it ends.  About a third of it was basically stock footage of haunted house festivals and attractions that did absolutely nothing to advance the story in any way and were just filler.

Happy Hunting - More of a suspense/action movie than horror and yet another retelling of "The Most Dangerous Game".  This time the setting is a desert and there's some depth to the main character.

Jackals - Sometimes movies fall just short of being really good, and I think this could have been with a tighter script and more time.  The story is similar to that of Funny Games or You're Next with a sense of impending danger and helplessness on behalf of the protagonists.  

Leatherface - If this had been just another horror movie not shoehorned into the TCM franchise it would have been better as for something touted as a Leatherface origin story it has precious little to do with the overall story.  You could have called it something different and swapped his character out with some random dude and there would have been no change to 95% of the movie.  All that aside it's not bad, there's some gruesome stuff here without getting into torture porn territory.  Without going into spoilers the backstory of leatherface himself didn't work for me, as I just didn't buy the big twist or that the events in there could have made him into the person he eventually becomes.

The Hatred - Cheap looking, terrible acting, mundane story.  This came off as more bush league than the average syfy original.

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