DC MOVIE THREAD

[APO]

I just hate brooding Supes no matter what the version. You don't have to take it like I'm insulting the movie.

[PuroresuFan]

IIRC, isn't there a deleted scene from Superman II where the police are taking away Zod, Non & Ursa?

 

Edit: Found it.

[J.T.]

 

I remain blasé about BvS mostly due to the residual bullshit of Superman killing Zod in Man of Steel.

I still don't understand why this is a controversy.

Whether it's in the older movies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUORL-bvwA0

 

The Phantom Zone portal of dry ice fog does not count.  There's no confirmation of Zod's death in the theatrical cut Supes II and as mentioned before, the deleted scene shows the depowered trio being hauled away by the cops.

[Brian Fowler]

And in Byrne's run, the follow up was Clark losing his mind and then banishing himself from Earth. Not crying then getting a job.

[Niners Fan in CT]

deleted scenes aren't canon. Supes killed that fucker. Cold blooded.

[J.T.]

deleted scenes aren't canon. Supes killed that fucker. Cold blooded.

 

The fucking movie trilogy isn't "canon" in general.

[Brian Fowler]

The first billion times I saw Superman II was on TV, with that scene. Ergo he didn't kill them.

[The Natural]

 

 

 

Batman be protecting his neck!

[The Natural]

[The Natural]

New:

 

 

Filename says this is Supes in Wayne Manor.

 

[Bustronaut]

Batman looks like a create-a-wrestler with all the sliders up to 200%

[The Natural]

Henry Cavill looks bigger. Impressive as he was already big in Man of Steel.

[The Natural]

[Craig H]

I really do not like anything about this version of Lex, which says a lot for me because I was sick and tired of the previous movie iterations. 

[Playa Shunna Ver 3.0]

I like the idea of Mark Zuckerberg Lex.  

[AxB]

You might like the idea of him, but the reality is quite different. And stop calling me Lex.

[The Natural]

New Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice photos:

 

 

 

 

 

[The Natural]

 

 

[The Natural]

Details:

 

The latest edition of Empire Magazine includes tons of new Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice details, with a particular focus on Ben Affleck's Batman. As has been the case ever since he was cast, much of that focus revolves around the fact that the Gone Girl star is playing an older Caped Crusader than we're used to seeing. "We are playing him 45 or 46," director Zack Snyder confirms. "He has been Batman for 20 years. All the history is there. Was there a Robin at one time? Possibly." This interview obviously took place before the trailer was released as producer Charles Roven also teased the fate of a certain Boy Wonder. "He has lost those near and dear to him, and not necessarily from old age of disease..." That could of course also refer to Batman's other allies, especially as Jim Gordon's fate in the DC Extended Universe isn't all that clear at this point.

"Initially I thought, 'I'm older, it doesn't seem like the right sort of fit for me,'" adds star Ben Affleck. "Then Zack pitched me his concept for this older, more broken, kind of f**ked up Batman. It was something we haven't seen. We have seen that Batman is willing to cross the line to protect people. That vigilantism has been a part of his character all along, and we are tapping into that mentality when faced by something as potentially as deadly a Superman." It's Superman's arrival which is really going to shake up the life of Batman by the sound of it, as Snyder went on to explain how the Man of Steel changes the vigilante's perceptions. "We want to assume that Batman has reached this point in his life and career as a superhero, and Superman represents a sort of philiophical change. He is a paradigm shift for Batman: 'I've been fighting criminals all my life, trying to find justice, and now I am confronted with a concept that is transcendent to me.' In the face of Superman, a man robbing a bank doesn't matter."

"He's having a crisis of conscience. 'Am I really just a vigilante who stalks the alleys of Gotham?'" asks Snyder. "It is rich stuff that he deals with. Ben does an amazing job." Early on in their feature, the director indicates that Batman is in some ways the villain of this movie, but later clarifies that by stating that who fans side with when the heroes meet in battle will ultimately come down to their own perceptions. "It's a point of view thing. That is why Dawn of Justice is the full title. What it does is allow us to start this conversation." Don't go thinking that the Dark Knight isn't a hero though. The magazine reveals that Batman does indeed have history with The Joker and Harley Quinn, and indeed all of the criminals in Belle Reve who will ultimately make up Task Force X in Suicide Squad. Batman is responsible for putting them all in there. What do you guys think?

 

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Zack Snyder could have done anything he wanted in the DC Extended Universe after Man of Steel was released. With Warner Bros. turning to him for assistance in creating this world, the filmmaker could have jumped straight into a Superman sequel, the Justice League, or even a Batman movie for that matter. However, it turns out that he's quite relieved to just have the Caped Crusader as a co-star in next year's Dawn of Justice. "If it was a Batman movie it would be a much more difficult proposition because of how good Chris' movies are. We live in gratiitude to those movies. Chris set a tone for the DC Universe, and separated us from Marvel in a great way. We are the legacy pf those movies." The pressure is obviously on Ben Affleck and Geoff Johns to deliver now then.

As for the rivalry between Marvel and DC, it turns out that it doesn't really exist. Snyder says that's down to just how different they ultimately are. "Right from the beginning it is different tonally from where those movies are. You know, DC is an ancient world in a lot of ways." That's a point reiterated by producer Deborah Snyder, as she praised Marvel but emphasised the fact that these worlds are tonally very, very different. "I can see how people would want to make it this big, intnse rivalry. Listen, they are so great. I loved Guardians of the Galaxy...our films are a bit more serious. They deal with things that are a little darker. Things that place them in our world."

 

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Warner Bros. are taking a very different approach to their Cinematic Universe (or "Extended Universe" as they're calling it) than Marvel, with Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and Justice League introducing the heroes before their origin stories are presumably told in solo outings which are going to follow those movies. It all begins with Batman v Superman next year though. "What we are doing is ground up all the way. It is one giant story," director Zack Snyder explains. "The first thing we had was the Justice League concept. The other movies, in a way, have to support that. That is our Wonder Woman, our Aquaman. They have their own creative concepts that supports them, but they do serve Justice League in the coming together of those heroes."

That won't restrict those in charge of the other heroes too much as the director goes on to explain that the other filmmakers contributing to the DC Extended Universe will have complete creative freedom, albeit with him keeping a very close eye on them. "I want all the other directors of the other films to be able to stretch their legs and do what they want, but at the same time there is a big interconnected universe. I have given everyone amazing access to our story, to me, and what we are doing. All the films have like minded conceptual jumping on points." Snyder wasn't willing to get into specifics, but he did tease what the magazine describes as an "elusive" cameo for Aquaman in Dawn of Justice by promising only that, "You will understand he exists."

Now, many fans have accused Warner Bros. of not having any sort of plan, but the magazine was lucky enough to see a board which maps out how and where the movies take place in the DC Extended Universe and how they all link up to wach other. Producer Deborah Snyder describes that as, "Kind of a timeline of what every movie is, where it is going, and where the films fit in relation to each other." Fellow producer Charles Roven meanwhile went into even further details about how they're ensuring that these movies all exist in the same world while not restricting their directors and writers too much. "We call it the sandbox. It has borders around it, but everybody gets to play in the sandbox. On Suicide Squad, David Ayer has a lot of specific control over his area of the sandbox. Even if he crosses the line a little bit, we see if we can push our boundaries back a little bit." With Justice League set to start shooting next Spring, expect to hear more soon!

 

Source: Empire Magazine

 

BONUS:

 

[Playa Shunna Ver 3.0]

I think the new Batman suit looks great.  

[The Natural]

I think the new Batman suit looks great.  

 

I'm with you.

[WholeFnMachine]

Details:

 

 

The latest edition of Empire Magazine includes tons of new Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice details, with a particular focus on Ben Affleck's Batman. As has been the case ever since he was cast, much of that focus revolves around the fact that the Gone Girl star is playing an older Caped Crusader than we're used to seeing. "We are playing him 45 or 46," director Zack Snyder confirms. "He has been Batman for 20 years. All the history is there. Was there a Robin at one time? Possibly." This interview obviously took place before the trailer was released as producer Charles Roven also teased the fate of a certain Boy Wonder. "He has lost those near and dear to him, and not necessarily from old age of disease..." That could of course also refer to Batman's other allies, especially as Jim Gordon's fate in the DC Extended Universe isn't all that clear at this point.

"Initially I thought, 'I'm older, it doesn't seem like the right sort of fit for me,'" adds star Ben Affleck. "Then Zack pitched me his concept for this older, more broken, kind of f**ked up Batman. It was something we haven't seen. We have seen that Batman is willing to cross the line to protect people. That vigilantism has been a part of his character all along, and we are tapping into that mentality when faced by something as potentially as deadly a Superman." It's Superman's arrival which is really going to shake up the life of Batman by the sound of it, as Snyder went on to explain how the Man of Steel changes the vigilante's perceptions. "We want to assume that Batman has reached this point in his life and career as a superhero, and Superman represents a sort of philiophical change. He is a paradigm shift for Batman: 'I've been fighting criminals all my life, trying to find justice, and now I am confronted with a concept that is transcendent to me.' In the face of Superman, a man robbing a bank doesn't matter."

"He's having a crisis of conscience. 'Am I really just a vigilante who stalks the alleys of Gotham?'" asks Snyder. "It is rich stuff that he deals with. Ben does an amazing job." Early on in their feature, the director indicates that Batman is in some ways the villain of this movie, but later clarifies that by stating that who fans side with when the heroes meet in battle will ultimately come down to their own perceptions. "It's a point of view thing. That is why Dawn of Justice is the full title. What it does is allow us to start this conversation." Don't go thinking that the Dark Knight isn't a hero though. The magazine reveals that Batman does indeed have history with The Joker and Harley Quinn, and indeed all of the criminals in Belle Reve who will ultimately make up Task Force X in Suicide Squad. Batman is responsible for putting them all in there. What do you guys think?

 

---

 

Zack Snyder could have done anything he wanted in the DC Extended Universe after Man of Steel was released. With Warner Bros. turning to him for assistance in creating this world, the filmmaker could have jumped straight into a Superman sequel, the Justice League, or even a Batman movie for that matter. However, it turns out that he's quite relieved to just have the Caped Crusader as a co-star in next year's Dawn of Justice. "If it was a Batman movie it would be a much more difficult proposition because of how good Chris' movies are. We live in gratiitude to those movies. Chris set a tone for the DC Universe, and separated us from Marvel in a great way. We are the legacy pf those movies." The pressure is obviously on Ben Affleck and Geoff Johns to deliver now then.

As for the rivalry between Marvel and DC, it turns out that it doesn't really exist. Snyder says that's down to just how different they ultimately are. "Right from the beginning it is different tonally from where those movies are. You know, DC is an ancient world in a lot of ways." That's a point reiterated by producer Deborah Snyder, as she praised Marvel but emphasised the fact that these worlds are tonally very, very different. "I can see how people would want to make it this big, intnse rivalry. Listen, they are so great. I loved Guardians of the Galaxy...our films are a bit more serious. They deal with things that are a little darker. Things that place them in our world."

 

---

 

Warner Bros. are taking a very different approach to their Cinematic Universe (or "Extended Universe" as they're calling it) than Marvel, with Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and Justice League introducing the heroes before their origin stories are presumably told in solo outings which are going to follow those movies. It all begins with Batman v Superman next year though. "What we are doing is ground up all the way. It is one giant story," director Zack Snyder explains. "The first thing we had was the Justice League concept. The other movies, in a way, have to support that. That is our Wonder Woman, our Aquaman. They have their own creative concepts that supports them, but they do serve Justice League in the coming together of those heroes."

That won't restrict those in charge of the other heroes too much as the director goes on to explain that the other filmmakers contributing to the DC Extended Universe will have complete creative freedom, albeit with him keeping a very close eye on them. "I want all the other directors of the other films to be able to stretch their legs and do what they want, but at the same time there is a big interconnected universe. I have given everyone amazing access to our story, to me, and what we are doing. All the films have like minded conceptual jumping on points." Snyder wasn't willing to get into specifics, but he did tease what the magazine describes as an "elusive" cameo for Aquaman in Dawn of Justice by promising only that, "You will understand he exists."

Now, many fans have accused Warner Bros. of not having any sort of plan, but the magazine was lucky enough to see a board which maps out how and where the movies take place in the DC Extended Universe and how they all link up to wach other. Producer Deborah Snyder describes that as, "Kind of a timeline of what every movie is, where it is going, and where the films fit in relation to each other." Fellow producer Charles Roven meanwhile went into even further details about how they're ensuring that these movies all exist in the same world while not restricting their directors and writers too much. "We call it the sandbox. It has borders around it, but everybody gets to play in the sandbox. On Suicide Squad, David Ayer has a lot of specific control over his area of the sandbox. Even if he crosses the line a little bit, we see if we can push our boundaries back a little bit." With Justice League set to start shooting next Spring, expect to hear more soon!

 

Source: Empire Magazine

 

BONUS:

 

 

Damn it...now I want to buy this issue of Empire...$10 for a damn magazine though...

[Ligerbusa]

They should release a poster of just their chins, I want to see whose is stronger.

[AxB]

 

 

 

Damn it...now I want to buy this issue of Empire...$10 for a damn magazine though...

 

 

I read it at work today. Not much more to it than what Natural posted. Oh, and they gave Ant-Man 4*, only with the review date vs release date conundrum*, that means they actually gave it five.

 

* If Empire can print a review of your movie in an issue of the magazine before the film is released (in the UK) you get an extra star (up to the maximum five). If your movie comes out in cinemas before they can print a review in the magazine, you lose a star. 

[J.T.]

Margot Robbie's stunt double tweeted this photo from the set.

 

 

So nerds online believe that this might happen.

 

They're going to go with Harley's New 52 origin for the movie.