(BP) Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Some newz sites didn't even update the story that it wasn't caused by the 619 until about 8 hours after everyone on here already knew. It's going to end up being an urban legend because it's a digestible anecdote, which sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I saw this posted on my feed. Mexican Wrestler Hijo Del Perro from AAA that passed away this morning died due to a snapped vertebrae. He snapped his vertebrae by taking a hit onto the mat while his body was twisted. He made it even worse by re entering the ring and taking a drop kick from Rey mysterio It sounds like he twisted his neck taking the frankensteiner/hurricanrana that he ended up rolling out to the floor. Rolls back and for a second he's all right and then takes the drop kick from Rey to set up the 619. So what ever happened it happened in that small window. I feel for Rey. It really was a freak accident. For all we know he might have had lingering neck issues (like Misawa) so any simple routine move could have had this outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfredoE Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I think it might have been the site El Mexicano who wrote they were setting up the 619 spot and didn't specify at the time that it was prior to that happening. They don't have the info on there anymore, but I know one of the guys who was taking photos at show was ringside mentioned the article was incorrect with what happened at that point and posted the details of what happened. Everyone else mentioned Perro hit the ropes wrong. Odessasteps mentioned the Marco Corleone injury in December and when I was being told what happened that was what it sounded like. The initial reports did mention he died of cervical spine trauma. They are going to investigate Perro Jr's death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Lashley Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I was trying to put this into context for a WWE fan base, and here's what I came up with: Imagine Randy Orton dying in the ring during a match with Steve Austin, with Hulk Hogan at ringside, on RAW the night after Austin had made his long-awaited WWE comeback at Survivor Series 2015. I've only been following lucha for about a year, but in that time I'd picked up that Perro was one of the top heel performers in Mexico. And while he may not have been in his wrestling prime at 35, he still had plenty of years left in the game. Rey is of course an iconic figure, the returning hero, and Konnan is someone who changed the business inside and outside the ring. And this isn't a hotel drug overdose, this is in the ring. This isn't Eddie Guerrero, it's Owen Hart, but if Owen had been one of WWE's top acts in 1999. Is that too much? Too little? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Just heard about this from Rippa. I am lost for words and heartbroken. RIP. I also hope that Rey doesn't beat himself up too badly over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matwarz Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 The usual displays of unreaearched and lazy 'journalism' are your typical disgrace. The head scissors was very awkward and could have easily caused damage. The confusion is his awareness that he missed his landing and was able to jump straight back into the ring to reposition. If the rana caused traumor any further contact could have sealed it. Regardless, it's an absolute tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 The usual displays of unreaearched and lazy 'journalism' are your typical disgrace. Hey speaking of which... ESPN: The Worldwide Leader In Shoddy, Sensationalized, Lowest Common Denominator Sports Reporting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Dynamite Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 The usual displays of unreaearched and lazy 'journalism' are your typical disgrace. Hey speaking of which... ESPN: The Worldwide Leader In Shoddy, Sensationalized, Lowest Common Denominator Sports Reporting Same thing on the front page of CNN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 You know it is bad when TMZ and Deadspin are the respectful ones when a wrestler passes away. I mean I don't expect anything from ESPN since they hire people that call wrestling fans "booger eaters". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 This is terrible news. I first really started watching lucha right around the time Perro was going up against Mistico in CMLL on a weekly basis. Him, Hector Garza and L.A. Park were my favorite guys back then. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfredoE Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Latest is that the box, lucha & MMA commissioner said it was cardiac arrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 IGN put up the story and as you might expect, the comments section for it is the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Latest is that the box, lucha & MMA commissioner said it was cardiac arrest. They already announced the cause of death. Why the fuck would you make shit up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfredoE Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Latest is that the box, lucha & MMA commissioner said it was cardiac arrest. They already announced the cause of death. Why the fuck would you make shit up now. First of all, that's disrespectful. Second, the Box, lucha & MMA commissioner from Tijuana said it was cardiac arrest. I've been keeping track of the story since it first happened. Have been updating constantly on my site and that's the latest news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Latest is that the box, lucha & MMA commissioner said it was cardiac arrest. They already announced the cause of death. Why the fuck would you make shit up now. First of all, that's disrespectful. Second, the Box, lucha & MMA commissioner from Tijuana said it was cardiac arrest. I've been keeping track of the story since it first happened. Have been updating constantly on my site and that's the latest news. I didn't mean you made up shit I was talking about the Box. Sorry I wasn't clear about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfredoE Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 No problem. Thanks for clearing it up. Hopefully if they do go thru with an investigation into the cause of death they can finally give us a definitive answer. Though even that I'm not sure about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 In a very morbid coincidence, I thought about Misawa dying and the video I watched of it last night at work, right around the time this probably happened. Absolutely horrible situation. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 So...from what I saw...did they mess up the hurricanrana spot? Was Perrito supposed to end up on the ropes in the 619 position after the rana, but instead fell through the ropes so they had to kind of "re-do" the 619 setup with the dropkick? That's my take from watching the vid. What a tragedy. RIP Perrito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 For some reason, there looked to be a lot of torque going on on Perrito's head during the rana. Hard to explain, but it's almost like the headscissors was too tight and it ended up cranking his neck out of whack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Looking at a close-up, there appears to be blood in one eye. That would be consistent with an aneurysm (or it can be caused by rubbing one's eye when it itches), I know, lots of possibilities. Mike's right that scissors looked awfully snug, and that very well could have started the problem which the drop-kick brought to its horrible conclusion. What's absolutely certain is that the 619 had nothing to do with it. ESPN should be ashamed of themselves for running with that. What the fuck ever happened to check your facts, recheck your facts, and then check them again? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Man, it's ESPN. Their journalistic integrity went out the window at least a decade ago. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecubsfan Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 It's web wire story that one lowly employee put together based on what someone else gave them. It's not exactly Outside the Lines. The stuff on ESPN Deportes is fine and has been useful. It's a big company. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallacy! Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 For some reason, there looked to be a lot of torque going on on Perrito's head during the rana. Hard to explain, but it's almost like the headscissors was too tight and it ended up cranking his neck out of whack. I thought this very same thing. I think you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I'm skeptical he had a heart attack, but I'm kinda hoping the truth is somewhere along those lines. It's a tragedy no matter how you look at it, but, years from now, "Perro had a heart attack" will be less of a story than "Rey Mysterio accidentally killed someone with a botched headscissors and a dropkick". This probably ends up being Rey's legacy after he retires, which is unfortunate. Was wondering if this has a lasting impact on lucha? I kinda feel like a death in the ring (on tv, at least) could be the beginning of the end for the WWE. How many advertisers would want to be associated with that, unless they were really committed to the programming in the first place? But that might be overstating things. WWE survived a wrestler falling to his death from the rafters shortly before a PPV went on the air, and an active uppercard wrestler murdering his family (which became a very big tabloid news story), so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafkonia Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Was wondering if this has a lasting impact on lucha? I kinda feel like a death in the ring (on tv, at least) could be the beginning of the end for the WWE. How many advertisers would want to be associated with that, unless they were really committed to the programming in the first place? But that might be overstating things. WWE survived a wrestler falling to his death from the rafters shortly before a PPV went on the air, and an active uppercard wrestler murdering his family (which became a very big tabloid news story), so..... Just to clarify, Owen fell during, not before, the PPV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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