RIPPA Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 SHINSUKE NAKAMURA Beat Timothy Thatcher Beat Titus O'Neil Beat Dean Ambrose Beat Luke Harper SAMI ZAYN Beat Hechicero Beat Black Terry Beat Drew Gulak Beat John Cena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DylanWaco Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Voted for Nakamura, but I can see the case for Sami and I think it's really close. What hurts Sami here to me is that Nakamura is someone who I thought was the best overall performer in the World last year in the sense of charisma, presence, work and drawing power combined. Now I have no problem at all with someone saying they are uninterested in factoring in the last of those things in a tournament like this, but it is really hard for me to vote the top babyface of a developmental league over arguably the top drawing wrestler in the World last year when I see little difference in terms of quality of work. Some might say "well you voted for Harper over Nakamura," but I think Harper was the better worker by a relatively small, but clear margin during the time period. I'm not entirely sure I think Zayn was better than Nak during the time period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 How important is NXT to the network? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 If WWE and NJPW organized a talent trade and Zayn and Nakamura switched places, Nakamura would instantly be the most over dude in NXT while Zayn would be a solid addition to the NJPW midcard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 What DylanWaco said. I voted for Nak. I don't think it's fair to look at Sami in a vacuum and discount NXT because it is a glorified developmental fed. He's done good work there but I don't think it eclipses Nak's work. Conversely I voted for Luke Harper over Nak in the previous thread because even though you have the disparity of mid carder vs. main event guy, Luke Harper is still a fucking phenom. He is even better than Rusev in getting over the little things that matter when working a match or building heat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brysynner Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I like Sami but I never got into him like I did with Nakamura this tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 What DylanWaco said. I voted for Nak. I don't think it's fair to look at Sami in a vacuum and discount NXT because it is a glorified developmental fed. He's done good work there but I don't think it eclipses Nak's work. Conversely I voted for Luke Harper over Nak in the previous thread because even though you have the disparity of mid carder vs. main event guy, Luke Harper is still a fucking phenom. He is even better than Rusev in getting over the little things that matter when working a match or building heat. We're in agreement mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I've been wrong as hell in the tournament before, but I think a Nak victory here might as well be handing the whole thing to Rusev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Oh c'mon, please don't make this WWE vs. WWE again. We've come so far this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Leaning Zayn, but have to think about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I've been wrong as hell in the tournament before, but I think a Nak victory here might as well be handing the whole thing to Rusev. I'm starting to get that feeling as well. Then again, Nakamura is more well-known now than he was before. I don't think it would be a complete blowout by any means. I get if somebody would vote Zayn to keep the finals close, but that shouldn't be the main reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidGoldBomb Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Has Sami had any matches as good as Nakamura's Dome match vs Ibushi? Sami is great, but I think Nakamura has more personality and charisma right now as well. Nakamura is just way more polished and hard hitting, and has his gimmick down pat. Sami has a better babyface comeback, but Nak is a babyface killer. Like i've said for so many of these matchups, goddamn I want to see this match in the Tokyo Dome! And I don't think Nakamura beating Sami gives anything to Rusev, I think Nak/Rusev could go either way as well. Actually Sami winning here would hand it to Rusev more than anything, because I think Rusev steam rolls him far easier than Nak. But I'm not playing the bracket game like you guys, i'm taking each match individually and not trying to play 2 steps ahead and make favorable matchups in the next round or spite vote or all that nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeball Wizard Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 This is a tough one. I have voted for both of these guys in every round so far. Sami Zayn is the most likable babyface in the world right now and his in ring has been stellar. Nakamura is bursting at the seams with charisma and is tremendous in ring as well. Have to give the nod to Zayn, it came down to which guy I would rather watch any random match they had. Either is going to be crushed by Rusev in the finals though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 All things considered I preferred Zayn/Neville to Nak/Ibushi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Nak for me, I've more or less loved the output of both throughout the year but I think I've loved Nak a little more. He's a magnificent bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 How many first pitches has Zayn thrown out? Huh huh? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 How many first pitches has Zayn thrown out? Huh huh? He lost my vote for the shoes he was wearing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 To me, there is no wrong answer here. Both are perfectly acceptable. I went Zayn but it was a coin flip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOTNW Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 You know what's PRO WRESTLING? Face falls for heel's handshake spots. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I just lost it picturing Nak reenacting Fred Astaire's Bojangles tribute from "Swing Time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 You know what's PRO WRESTLING? Face falls for heel's handshake spots. Pfft. Sami Zayn lost a TITLE match by falling for Neville's injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Sami died many deaths this year. None greater than: VOTE ZAYN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 VOTE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOTNW Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Pfft. Sami Zayn lost a TITLE match by falling for Neville's injury. Uhm......he did not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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