Technico Support Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I read the scene at Mesa Verde as Kim not wanting any part of it, and possible wanting to get out of lawyering as well. I mean she almost died doing the work of one bank...and now they want her to be their counsel for a regional expansion. She was overwhelmed and reconsidering. There was a quick shot of two figurines in one of the mock-ups and the window framing looked like bars, like continuing to work there would feel like a prison to her. It's a little on the nose for Gilligan, but who knows? There's a theory on /r/bettercallsaul that Mesa Verde is a money laundering operation, which is how they can expand so quickly. I'm not so sure about that and crazy speculation like this is why I try to avoid TV shows' subreddits. I tapped out on Westworld Reddit after two episodes -- I'd rather be surprised and enjoy a show then possibly get spoiled by a a million theories throwing shit at the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I don't think Kim sees Mesa Verde as a way out. I don't think this relationship is there yet. Nobody has any reason to reach for the exit right now. Jimmy's trouble confronting his grief and his reversion back to his old slippin' self has yet to wreak real havoc at home. I think Kim, especially after her the car crash, has reached a point where she's seriously reconsidering her work-life balance. Her Blockbuster binge at the end of last season felt like the beginning of that. Now that she's back at work, Kevin's inadvertently given her another nudge in that direction by showing her the models her hard work will make a reality for him and telling her "this is what it's all about" or something to that effect. She's under a lot of stress and is weighing her priorities differently than she may have before the accident. Hence the work she's now willing to hand off. EDIT: Damn @Technico Support beat me by a minute! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 You two nailed it. I'm dumb for missing out on both the overwhelming amount of work that needs to be done for all of those banks and Kim seeing the people behind bars. Something else from this episode that I again didn't care for was the cartel stuff. This was a part of the show I thought I wanted more of and honestly I just want more of Jimmy and Kim doing Jimmy and Kim things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 So far we've pointed out Gale and Ira. But we missed this week's other major cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Oh goddammit!!! The unsliced pizza was one of the funniest things Breaking Bad ever did and I'm kicking myself for not tying the two together. "Anybody got a pair of scissors?" Now I wanna know when we get to see Lavell Crawford and Bill Burr again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehabilitated Rick Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 8 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: Oh goddammit!!! The unsliced pizza was one of the funniest things Breaking Bad ever did and I'm kicking myself for not tying the two together. "Anybody got a pair of scissors?" Now I wanna know when we get to see Lavell Crawford and Bill Burr again. He appeared in the last season (looking considerably lighter), planting Jimmy's phone in Chuck's coat pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Ah, forgot about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 The look on Mike's face in that meeting, so full of barely concealed rage and disgust. He looks like he's either gonna stab someone or have a Scanners moment. Or maybe both at the same time. Hoo, those Salamanca boys... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I'm really starting to wonder where this is all going. This season more than any other is just meandering a lot. Everyone has the own personal existential crisis and that just seems like the theme for this season. I'm not sure how else to say it, but I just want the story to go somewhere, anywhere. All of the characters this season are extra quiet and reflective, but no one is quite open. I know there was a lot of dialogue last night, but at the same time it didn't feel like anyone said much of anything. Basically, every character should go see the therapist that Kim wants Jimmy to go see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Craig H said: All of the characters this season are extra quiet and reflective, but no one is quite open. You should be careful about wanting Mike to talk. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Awesome episode. Mike is a badass; he didn't even buy Gus' theatrics. Neelix from Star Trek Voyager was probably the last person I expected to guest star on this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Jimmy might have balls the size of Gibraltar, but did he really think those were gonna keep him from getting robbed? He should have at the very least picked up a can of pepper spray or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I can see why they only offered critics the first four episodes in advance of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterien Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 4 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: I can see why they only offered critics the first four episodes in advance of the season. In a good or bad way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 16 hours ago, peterien said: In a good or bad way? It’s the first episode to feature a scene set within the Breaking Bad timeline. I’m sure they wouldn’t want that potentially colouring pre-season reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 That opening was equal parts really cool and really heartbreaking. The rest of the episode was good stuff. I still can't get a read on Kim. I initially believed all of you saying that Kim nearly killed herself working on the Mesa Verde stuff, but then she's so bored she took on public defender work and she took on enough of it to harm her status with Mesa Verde. Maybe she wasn't so much worried about the amount of work needed to work on Mesa Verde with their huge expansion, but maybe it's more that she's conflicted with not actually defending folks and getting into the muck in courtrooms, hence the meeting with the judge last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 She's looking for any meaning she can get from her profession, hence her jumping in there to defend the sort of people the system is designed to chew up and spit out. Going back to her movie choices at the end of last season, she's looking to be more of an Atticus Finch if she's going to stay in this line of work. I struggle to imagine Atticus Finch and Saul Goodman sharing an office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 It'll go full circle. Either Hamlin or Kim (or both) will be defending Saul's ex-employee, by the time the flashforwards have concluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I didn’t stop and think about it while watching, but the “Tell ‘em Jimmy sent you” line is almost certainly pointing towards Kim or Howard. And based on the trajectory of their professional interests, I’d say it’s likely Kim. Another thing I never thought too much about while watching Breaking Bad were the practical roadblocks to the superlab. I knew it was bananas and Gus would need to put a lot into it, but I didn’t dwell on it. We better get a couple fun montages out of its construction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Just caught the beginning. Jimmy literally shredding the Constitution to get to whatever was hidden in the wall was an inspired touch. And Bad Boy, nice eye/ear on that line, that could be a hint as to how and where either of their characters end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted September 6, 2018 Author Share Posted September 6, 2018 I felt Kim took an interest in criminal defense because she, like Jimmy, had her own issues when she was younger. She said something to Jimmy after he was robbed and he wnated to do something about it that "you're not that guy anymore". I think Kim and Jimmy are drawn to each other because they were both troubled but Kim is trying to help others from making the same mistakes she did whereas Jimmy is just Jimmy (and eventually Saul). Kim was more concerned about the well being of that young woman than she was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 11 hours ago, A_K said: It'll go full circle. Either Hamlin or Kim (or both) will be defending Saul's ex-employee, by the time the flashforwards have concluded. 10 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: I didn’t stop and think about it while watching, but the “Tell ‘em Jimmy sent you” line is almost certainly pointing towards Kim or Howard. And based on the trajectory of their professional interests, I’d say it’s likely Kim. Another thing I never thought too much about while watching Breaking Bad were the practical roadblocks to the superlab. I knew it was bananas and Gus would need to put a lot into it, but I didn’t dwell on it. We better get a couple fun montages out of its construction. Great call, guys. Re the superlab, to paraphrase something I saw elsewhere: BB writers back then: "Who cares about the logistics of building it? Nobody is going to delve that much into Gus' backstory." BCS writers: "....shit" But honestly, there's got to be some sort of point the specifically show it being built. Maybe a testament to Gus' determination or something? Because nobody would have cared about hand-waving the whole thing by saying, "there was already a basement." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhock Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 11 hours ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: I didn’t stop and think about it while watching, but the “Tell ‘em Jimmy sent you” line is almost certainly pointing towards Kim or Howard. And based on the trajectory of their professional interests, I’d say it’s likely Kim. But Francesca's already met Kim - there wouldn't need to be an explanation at all. It has to be Howard. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Speaking of, what the hell was going on with Howard? Is he having a breakdown due to what happened with Chuck? Wouldn't it be funny if Saul Goodman's first client is Howard after a major downfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Kim's intern/paralegal...I get the sense she's going to be a player at some point and perhaps discovers more than she needs to know? Either about whatever Jimmy and Kim get involved in or Mesa Verde's doings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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