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Does ROH sign wrestlers to exclusive contracts? Friend linked me to an indy's FB page that said Joe was "not taking bookings after 4/23".

 

Joe's doing 6-7 dates for ROH. He's also fielding offers from AAA/Lucha Underground, WWE, and NJPW according to Meltzer.

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I'd REALLY be interested in seeing what kind of offer he has from WWE. If I were him, it'd be either that or NJPW. The advantage to WWE might be being able to stay in Florida, work for NXT and make some merchandise money. If he does well enough in NXT, he can transition into being a trainer so there's more long term potential there. 

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Does ROH sign wrestlers to exclusive contracts? Friend linked me to an indy's FB page that said Joe was "not taking bookings after 4/23".

 

Joe's doing 6-7 dates for ROH. He's also fielding offers from AAA/Lucha Underground, WWE, and NJPW according to Meltzer.

 

 

 

 

Take this with a grain of salt for the offers being fielded as well, but from other boards cross-checking dates:

 

-New Japan will be right in the middle of a house show tour on April 23rd. 

 

-Joe is doing 6-7 dates for ROH, and it's already been announced that one of those dates will be April 25th in Minnesota.

 

-The final NXT episode in the can right now is set for April 22... and April 23 has been announced as the next NXT tapings. (Also remember for the 4/25 date, WWE is very big on honoring your prior committments.) 

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Did the WWE ever have an interst in any bigger name Japanese guys, or was that considered the realm of WCW in the 90s?  Tenryu was in the Rumble one year and Shinzaki and Ultimo had those brief runs, plus Kaientai and a few lower card guys.  I was wondering if they'd ever considered bringing in someone like Liger, especially post-WCW?

 

IIRC Vince was interested in Kobashi in the late 90's.

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Why are pro-wrestlers getting smaller? It seems like there's a ton of < 6'0" < 200lbs in wrestling now. Is it a case of the bigger guys are doing other things than wrestling (MMA?) or more people realizing being a pro-wrestler sucks (the constant travel, the lack of pay, the hierarchy in place)

 

At the risk of sounding like a cop-out, I'm sure it's a little of both.

 

Also, indy wrestlers started getting smaller several years ago when most of the big guys were going into MMA or being locked into developmental deals by WWE early and more indy feds started getting more into "workrate" and "movez~!", stuff usually done by smaller dudes. More guys said "hey, these indy stars are small" later and started doing it themselves. Watch for that trend to continue, as people have now seen you don't have to be bodybuilder-sized to make it in the WWE.

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Interesting at last night's MSG show that Cena-Rusev was in the middle of the card and Bryan/Reigns tag team match headlined.

 

I know in the "old days" the top guy would often wrestle in the middle of the card at MSG, but Cena usually always headlines the MSG shows. I took this as another sign that he's been "moved down" to the "old man veteran" role that Meltz talked about.

 

Either way, it just seemed weird to me when reading the results. Now might be the time for that heel turn, if for no other reason than to keep himself relevant.

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I thought they put the main event in the middle of the card so they could announce the return match before the end of the show so people could buy their tickets before leaving the building.

 

That's how they did it in the 70s and 80s for sure, when they ran MSG on a much more regular basis. Don't think that's how it goes these days.

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I thought they put the main event in the middle of the card so they could announce the return match before the end of the show so people could buy their tickets before leaving the building.

That's how they did it in the 70s and 80s for sure, when they ran MSG on a much more regular basis. Don't think that's how it goes these days.

I was only referencing how they did it "back then."

I could see a card being structured now, based on travel, pr stuff, make a wish visits, etc.

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The Hogan Night at MSG was actually really nice. They actually raised a banner to the rafters, and I hope it stays up there like the Elton John or Billy Joel ones but I suspect it will only be used at wrestling shows there. Most notable thing is that they have really killed Reigns bad as he got a strongly negative reaction and people walked out before the main event (also shows how much they've hurt Bryan, who was his tag partner, as well). Cena-Rusev was as good as their PPV match IMO and was best match on the show. Tag was good with Bryan playing Ricky Morton getting beaten until making the hot tag to Reigns. Overall very good show. Interesting that no return date was announced, but given that it's one of 5 shows in the general area this week I can understand they will want some time to pass before returning to the area.

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