SirSmUgly Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Not just in that BEN! post, but in a number of places, I see people saying that a large part of support for the in-ring work of the women is that we have lower standards for them then the men. I hate that idea because I actually genuinely enjoy the women. I'm not doing some "grading on a curve" thing. If I enjoy, say, Sasha Banks or Bayley or Nikki Bella's roaring forearms, it's just because I enjoy them. I'm not being disingenuous in any way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 That is something that sticks in my crawl. I'd pay tons to watch Bryan/Lesnar. I wouldn't pay a cent for Lesnar Reigns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Not just in that BEN! post, but in a number of places, I see people saying that a large part of support for the in-ring work of the women is that we have lower standards for them then the men. I hate that idea because I actually genuinely enjoy the women. I'm not doing some "grading on a curve" thing. If I enjoy, say, Sasha Banks or Bayley or Nikki Bella's roaring forearms, it's just because I enjoy them. I'm not being disingenuous in any way. This is what drives me nuts as well. There was a time back in 06 when I'd rather watch Rebecca Knox and Daizee Haze chain wrestle then anything the E was doing. Right now I'd say Sasha is my favorite pro wrestler in the WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimLivingston Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Looks like Brock is close to being gone: http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/2/26/8111563/lesnar-reaches-contract-impasse-with-wwe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 You really have to hand it to WWE for giving Lesnar about as much leverage as humanly possible. And Lesnar vs. a bear would break all types of ppv records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Albert's retired 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 You know who else can't do the finer technical aspects of professional wrestling and never gets anytime on Raw? Bears. #GiveBearsAChance. Back to the also-"funny" Bunkhouse Buck fantasy booking with you. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who doesn't get the appeal of that particular routine. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Can we just agree Ben said a horrible thing without dragging Bunkhouse Buck into it? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 We could do a fantasy tournament of guys with punch finishers. Buck, Big Show, Ronnie Garvin, Johnny B. Badd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 We could do a fantasy tournament of guys with punch finishers. Buck, Big Show, Ronnie Garvin, Johnny B. Badd... Would Ox Baker's heart punch or Ivan Putski's Polish hammer count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 TimLivingston, on 26 Feb 2015 - 1:20 PM, said: Looks like Brock is close to being gone: http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/2/26/8111563/lesnar-reaches-contract-impasse-with-wwe It's going to be Mania XX x's 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Ox Baker wins. He killed people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I just went back realized that Ben post had 4 fucking likes. For a post that compared women's abilities to be a professional wrestler to a wild animal. I'm judging some of you guys really hard right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidGoldBomb Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 It's hilarious to me that they used the ECW logo for this 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I think the "#GiveBearsachance" has a much, MUCH different connotation than BEN! thinks it does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 The idea of Lesnar vs a bear is pretty like-worthy. And I can't even get that post in before one of the aforementioned likers has to go and ruin my pre-emptive smoothing over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I think the "#GiveBearsachance" has a much, MUCH different connotation than BEN! thinks it does. It's certainly dead in Green Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zheroen Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 One contradiction in regards to the WWE booking strategy in regards to Bryan and Reigns that irks myself is that when Bryan got injured, it was declared proof that he wasn't the guy and couldn't be trusted as the ace, and they had to move on. Yet when Reigns got injured shortly thereafter, they basically put everything in traction with total filler angles (i.e. Bella vs. Bella that was retconned within a month or so, Cena vs. Authority rehash) until he was healthy enough to make a return so that they could push him to the moon again. With Reigns, we had regular updates on RAW how his injury was healing, and continued reminders of how popular and great he was. Meanwhile, Bryan was in the mainstream media for celebrating at the World Series with the champions and made news headlines for foiling a burglary, the WWE was silent. This is a company so starved for positive media exposure that they were hyping Eva Marie and Cameron for being on the E! pre-Oscar Red Carpet coverage that was being broadcast at the same time as one of their PPV events, yet they did all they could to ignore Bryan receiving attention outside of the WWE. There isn't even a point in discussing the Superstar of the Year voting. It's not blind zealotry and Bryan fandom that has people annoyed with the degree to which they are pushing Reigns. It's frustration with the fact that Vince is digging his heels in and trying to push his vision with a guy that just isn't clicking with the audience (at least not to main event caliber), while seemingly going out of their way to cool off others who like Cesaro (I'm talking pre-affiliation with Heyman), Ziggler, even Orton. What's the rush on making Roman the guy right here and now? If he's the future of the business, then you can afford to cultivate an organic following. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I just went back realized that Ben post had 4 fucking likes. For a post that compared women's abilities to be a professional wrestler to a wild animal. I'm judging some of you guys really hard right now. I liked his post for the part about if divas were treated the same way as the men, half of them would be gone, not for the comparison of their wrestling skills to a bear. There's women still employed by WWE for no reason beyond "they are part of Total Divas". Rosa Mendes, Cameron and Eva Marie have shown zero ability to do their jobs in a wrestling ring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 One contradiction in regards to the WWE booking strategy in regards to Bryan and Reigns that irks myself is that when Bryan got injured, it was declared proof that he wasn't the guy and couldn't be trusted as the ace, and they had to move on. Yet when Reigns got injured shortly thereafter, they basically put everything in traction with total filler angles (i.e. Bella vs. Bella that was retconned within a month or so, Cena vs. Authority rehash) until he was healthy enough to make a return so that they could push him to the moon again. With Reigns, we had regular updates on RAW how his injury was healing, and continued reminders of how popular and great he was. Meanwhile, Bryan was in the mainstream media for celebrating at the World Series with the champions and made news headlines for foiling a burglary, the WWE was silent. This is a company so starved for positive media exposure that they were hyping Eva Marie and Cameron for being on the E! pre-Oscar Red Carpet coverage that was being broadcast at the same time as one of their PPV events, yet they did all they could to ignore Bryan receiving attention outside of the WWE. There isn't even a point in discussing the Superstar of the Year voting. It's not blind zealotry and Bryan fandom that has people annoyed with the degree to which they are pushing Reigns. It's frustration with the fact that Vince is digging his heels in and trying to push his vision with a guy that just isn't clicking with the audience (at least not to main event caliber), while seemingly going out of their way to cool off others who like Cesaro (I'm talking pre-affiliation with Heyman), Ziggler, even Orton. What's the rush on making Roman the guy right here and now? If he's the future of the business, then you can afford to cultivate an organic following. I don't want to choose sides, but I think a sports hernia is an injury that is regarded as routine, treatable, has a consistent timeline for recovery and no potential lingering effects. Bryan's neck injury had none of those things. I think you are comparing apples and oranges a little bit. When you compare Bryan's injury to other major neck injuries, like Edge, and Kurt Angle, the treatment was pretty similar, with a note regarding the surgery, but no real mentions on air after that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Z Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 One contradiction in regards to the WWE booking strategy in regards to Bryan and Reigns that irks myself is that when Bryan got injured, it was declared proof that he wasn't the guy and couldn't be trusted as the ace, and they had to move on. This is a line that I've never understood and I've even seen people on here say this. Did he choose to be injured? Injuries can happen to everyone. Pretty much everyone, who ever wrestled was injured at some point of their career. Triple H himself missed a year. I just don't get how him getting injured is proof that he shouldn't be the top guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeball Wizard Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Taking a step back here, I just wish I could watch as I did when I was younger. I didnt care who was getting pushed, I was just happy to see my favorites show up. I was thrilled if Bam Bam Bigelow crushed a jobber on Superstars or Crush was fighting Repo Man at Summerslam. I want to not care about who is "the chosen one" or who is gonna be the next Cena. I guess what I'm saying is I hate my mother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zheroen Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 One contradiction in regards to the WWE booking strategy in regards to Bryan and Reigns that irks myself is that when Bryan got injured, it was declared proof that he wasn't the guy and couldn't be trusted as the ace, and they had to move on. Yet when Reigns got injured shortly thereafter, they basically put everything in traction with total filler angles (i.e. Bella vs. Bella that was retconned within a month or so, Cena vs. Authority rehash) until he was healthy enough to make a return so that they could push him to the moon again. With Reigns, we had regular updates on RAW how his injury was healing, and continued reminders of how popular and great he was. Meanwhile, Bryan was in the mainstream media for celebrating at the World Series with the champions and made news headlines for foiling a burglary, the WWE was silent. This is a company so starved for positive media exposure that they were hyping Eva Marie and Cameron for being on the E! pre-Oscar Red Carpet coverage that was being broadcast at the same time as one of their PPV events, yet they did all they could to ignore Bryan receiving attention outside of the WWE. There isn't even a point in discussing the Superstar of the Year voting. It's not blind zealotry and Bryan fandom that has people annoyed with the degree to which they are pushing Reigns. It's frustration with the fact that Vince is digging his heels in and trying to push his vision with a guy that just isn't clicking with the audience (at least not to main event caliber), while seemingly going out of their way to cool off others who like Cesaro (I'm talking pre-affiliation with Heyman), Ziggler, even Orton. What's the rush on making Roman the guy right here and now? If he's the future of the business, then you can afford to cultivate an organic following. I don't want to choose sides, but I think a sports hernia is an injury that is regarded as routine, treatable, has a consistent timeline for recovery and no potential lingering effects. Bryan's neck injury had none of those things. I think you are comparing apples and oranges a little bit. When you compare Bryan's injury to other major neck injuries, like Edge, and Kurt Angle, the treatment was pretty similar, with a note regarding the surgery, but no real mentions on air after that. Austin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Taking a step back here, I just wish I could watch as I did when I was younger. I didnt care who was getting pushed, I was just happy to see my favorites show up. I was thrilled if Bam Bam Bigelow crushed a jobber on Superstars or Crush was fighting Repo Man at Summerslam. I want to not care about who is "the chosen one" or who is gonna be the next Cena. You were a kid when you were younger. You probably don't appreciate movies, tv, books, food, etc the same way. I'd generally argue that being an adult broadens your perspective on matters. You don't just appreciate sweet or salty, you like sour and bitter as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I think the "#GiveBearsachance" has a much, MUCH different connotation than BEN! thinks it does. Why do people keep spelling these names wrong? First Vlade, now Amanda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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