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And also, the WWE's champions list since the Hogan era includes Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, Chris Benoit, Eddy Guerrero, CM Punk, Mick Foley, Edge, Jeff Hardy and Daniel Bryan. None of those guys are bodybuilders at all

Can we get past the "Vince only likes muscle guys?" talking point that any shred of evidence shows is false?

 

Please.

 

Most of the guys in that list got roided up in order to qualify for a world title push.  One of them was so roided up he died.  Get out of here with this disingenuous bullshit.

 

 

There's a difference between using steroids and having a roid frame. That's what I meant. None of them looked like The Ultimate Warrior or Hogan or Diesel or Taker or Kane. There are plenty of smaller framed guys/shorter guys who had big runs.

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I'm not a gimmick poster. At all. I'm outnumbered 25-3 or so here. I hate the Comic Shop Guy fandom that the WWE Universe has become.

Yes yes, you love wrestling. That's why you call it "play-fighting" when you want to denigrate someone's contradictory opinion. That's why you explicitly state that everyone who disagrees with you isn't watching wrestling right. Totally not a gimmick.

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Man, I don't agree with Gregg at all, but I really feel for him when some of you start to gang up on him and make it personal.

Yep. I'm making it personal with "Sorry your favorite play-fighter lost. Hope things go better for you."

 

That was in retalition to your post and you know it.

You mean the post were he asked a legitimate question?

 

No. The "You're a treasure" post.

You mean the one after Greg responded with "maybe they did it to rile you up?"

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And also, the WWE's champions list since the Hogan era includes Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, Chris Benoit, Eddy Guerrero, CM Punk, Mick Foley, Edge, Jeff Hardy and Daniel Bryan. None of those guys are bodybuilders at all

Can we get past the "Vince only likes muscle guys?" talking point that any shred of evidence shows is false?

 

Please.

 

Most of the guys in that list got roided up in order to qualify for a world title push.  One of them was so roided up he died.  Get out of here with this disingenuous bullshit.

 

 

There's a difference between using steroids and having a roid frame. That's what I meant. None of them looked like The Ultimate Warrior or Hogan or Diesel or Taker or Kane. There are plenty of smaller framed guys/shorter guys who had big runs.

 

 

Your point was Benoit, Eddie, Rey, blah blah "prove" that Vince likes more than just muscle guys.  My point is that Vince wouldn't have pushed any of them if they hadn't become muscle guys.  Fuuuuuuck.  You are the most willfully obtuse person here.

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Man, I don't agree with Gregg at all, but I really feel for him when some of you start to gang up on him and make it personal.

Yep. I'm making it personal with "Sorry your favorite play-fighter lost. Hope things go better for you."

 

That was in retalition to your post and you know it.

You mean the post were he asked a legitimate question?

 

No. The "You're a treasure" post.

You mean the one after Greg responded with "maybe they did it to rile you up?"

 

 

I don't think that was an unreasonable suggestion. Wrestling oftens does things to rile up the audience.

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Man, I don't agree with Gregg at all, but I really feel for him when some of you start to gang up on him and make it personal.

Yep. I'm making it personal with "Sorry your favorite play-fighter lost. Hope things go better for you."

That was in retalition to your post and you know it.

You mean the post were he asked a legitimate question?

No. The "You're a treasure" post.

You mean the one after Greg responded with "maybe they did it to rile you up?"

I don't think that was an unreasonable suggestion. Wrestling oftens does things to rile up the audience.

So WWE's plan was to piss of there "smart" fanbase during the Rumble, in Philly no less, in what was supposed to Reigns crowning moment. If Greg is right in suggesting that, why is he defending the booking, because it was a incredibly idiotic decision that went about as well can be expected.
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And also, the WWE's champions list since the Hogan era includes Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, Chris Benoit, Eddy Guerrero, CM Punk, Mick Foley, Edge, Jeff Hardy and Daniel Bryan. None of those guys are bodybuilders at all

Can we get past the "Vince only likes muscle guys?" talking point that any shred of evidence shows is false?

 

Please.

 

Most of the guys in that list got roided up in order to qualify for a world title push.  One of them was so roided up he died.  Get out of here with this disingenuous bullshit.

 

 

There's a difference between using steroids and having a roid frame. That's what I meant. None of them looked like The Ultimate Warrior or Hogan or Diesel or Taker or Kane. There are plenty of smaller framed guys/shorter guys who had big runs.

 

 

Your point was Benoit, Eddie, Rey, blah blah "prove" that Vince likes more than just muscle guys.  My point is that Vince wouldn't have pushed any of them if they hadn't become muscle guys.  Fuuuuuuck.  You are the most willfully obtuse person here.

 

 

Is this really needed?

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And also, the WWE's champions list since the Hogan era includes Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, Chris Benoit, Eddy Guerrero, CM Punk, Mick Foley, Edge, Jeff Hardy and Daniel Bryan. None of those guys are bodybuilders at all

Can we get past the "Vince only likes muscle guys?" talking point that any shred of evidence shows is false?

 

Please.

 

Most of the guys in that list got roided up in order to qualify for a world title push.  One of them was so roided up he died.  Get out of here with this disingenuous bullshit.

 

There's a difference between using steroids and having a roid frame. That's what I meant. None of them looked like The Ultimate Warrior or Hogan or Diesel or Taker or Kane. There are plenty of smaller framed guys/shorter guys who had big runs.

 

Your point was Benoit, Eddie, Rey, blah blah "prove" that Vince likes more than just muscle guys.  My point is that Vince wouldn't have pushed any of them if they hadn't become muscle guys.  Fuuuuuuck.  You are the most willfully obtuse person here.

 

Is this really needed?

In the Rumble thread you insinuated anyone who didn't like Reigns winning was more or less just an Indy mark who only cheers for guys we watched in gyms. So you kinda brought in on yourself.

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In Gregg's defense, he spent a year getting shit on every week for not hating everything that wasn't "Put the title on Daniel Bryan" by most of the board, including myself.  

 

He's damn near a saint he didn't break and mouth off sooner.

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Honestly for those who get outraged about this -- Do you have fun watching wrestling at all anymore? Even with our beloved NXT, no one can go five seconds without saying "Why can't Raw be like this?" Yes. NXT is better. But can you just enjoy NXT without having to think about what you hate for a second?

How many of you write about wrestling you actually LIKE? I don't follow Japan/indies/lucha so I don't check those forums, so maybe all the "This is great!" is there. But a lot of you spend so much energy writing various ways of THIS SUCKS AND IS THE WORST!!! Please, for your own sense-of-self, find some fun when discussing play-fighting.

There are a bunch of people here that are positive for the most part. Maybe you haven't noticed but you seem to argue with the same 4 or 5 people all the time. Question is why don't you notice the others?

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And also, the WWE's champions list since the Hogan era includes Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, Chris Benoit, Eddy Guerrero, CM Punk, Mick Foley, Edge, Jeff Hardy and Daniel Bryan. None of those guys are bodybuilders at all

Can we get past the "Vince only likes muscle guys?" talking point that any shred of evidence shows is false?

 

Please.

 

Most of the guys in that list got roided up in order to qualify for a world title push.  One of them was so roided up he died.  Get out of here with this disingenuous bullshit.

 

There's a difference between using steroids and having a roid frame. That's what I meant. None of them looked like The Ultimate Warrior or Hogan or Diesel or Taker or Kane. There are plenty of smaller framed guys/shorter guys who had big runs.

 

Your point was Benoit, Eddie, Rey, blah blah "prove" that Vince likes more than just muscle guys.  My point is that Vince wouldn't have pushed any of them if they hadn't become muscle guys.  Fuuuuuuck.  You are the most willfully obtuse person here.

 

Is this really needed?

In the Rumble thread you insinuated anyone who didn't like Reigns winning was more or less just an Indy mark who only cheers for guys we watched in gyms. So you kinda brought in on yourself.

 

 

I apologize for that. I think I did in that thread, too. But, yeah, I was out of line. That said -- this is a completely different thread.

Can not every thread be about me? It's really dumb and I don't like it.

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And also, the WWE's champions list since the Hogan era includes Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, Chris Benoit, Eddy Guerrero, CM Punk, Mick Foley, Edge, Jeff Hardy and Daniel Bryan. None of those guys are bodybuilders at all

Can we get past the "Vince only likes muscle guys?" talking point that any shred of evidence shows is false?

 

Please.

 

Most of the guys in that list got roided up in order to qualify for a world title push.  One of them was so roided up he died.  Get out of here with this disingenuous bullshit.

 

There's a difference between using steroids and having a roid frame. That's what I meant. None of them looked like The Ultimate Warrior or Hogan or Diesel or Taker or Kane. There are plenty of smaller framed guys/shorter guys who had big runs.

 

Your point was Benoit, Eddie, Rey, blah blah "prove" that Vince likes more than just muscle guys.  My point is that Vince wouldn't have pushed any of them if they hadn't become muscle guys.  Fuuuuuuck.  You are the most willfully obtuse person here.

 

Is this really needed?

In the Rumble thread you insinuated anyone who didn't like Reigns winning was more or less just an Indy mark who only cheers for guys we watched in gyms. So you kinda brought in on yourself.

 

I apologize for that. I think I did in that thread, too. But, yeah, I was out of line. That said -- this is a completely different thread.

Can not every thread be about me? It's really dumb and I don't like it.

I would say you jumped right into it at the very middle, but you have a fair point. I concende the thread... Or something.

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Can not every thread be about me? It's really dumb and I don't like it.

 

 

You bring it on yourself by making sure everyone knows that you watch wrestling "the right way."  It's creeping into STL Cardinal fan territory and that shit is going to be derided.  

 

Stop talking down to people.  It will work wonders.

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I feel like we need to discuss the lack of Ryback at Mania. He's going to win the Andre Battle Royal and turn that into something unlike whoever the jobber who won last year right?

 

The only acceptable ending to the battle royal is Miz and Sandow as the final two, Miz demands Sandow eliminate himself, and Sandow finally snaps and turns, eliminating Miz to win.

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