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Thoughts on In Your House 23: Breakdown

Jerry Lawler thought Owen Hart was sucking up to the fans in Hamilton, Ontario by wearing a Toronto Argonauts jersey. In fact, Owen was heeling on the fans because Hamilton has its own team, the redundantly named Tiger-Cats. 

As cool as it was to see Christian debut to distract Edge, and as much as we all loved The Brood and the Edge & Christian team, I think Edge was on track to become a singles star if he had continued to receive a solo push.

Al Snow learned that the best way to beat Too Much is to team with another wrestler (Scorpio) rather than an inanimate object (Head). Despite the win, Snow and Scorpio would later team up as part of the J.O.B. Squad.

Jackie didn't bother to bring out the Women's title belt for Marc Mero's match with Droz, but she sported it very proudly the following month at Judgment Day.

Vader got jobbed out again, this time to Bradshaw. Before the match, Bradshaw called Vader fat, showing possible signs of being a bully.

Fan sign: "D-Lo vs. Gangrel: Who Cares?"

The Rock wins the MVP award (surprisingly for the first time) for having the fans in the palm of his hand throughout the three-way cage match against babyface Ken Shamrock and budding babyface Mankind. He earned so much respect at SummerSlam in the ladder match that he really became "The People's Champ."

Dustin Runnels lost to Val Venis, then watched his wife make out with him. Now that's losing a feud. 

One of the best things about the Austin-McMahon feud was how evenly matched it was. Austin didn't always overcome the odds. Here, Vince stacked the deck against him and it worked. Even better were the perplexed faces of Undertaker and Kane after they both pinned Austin but Vince walked off with the belt.

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18 hours ago, Gorman said:

Thoughts on In Your House 23: Breakdown

Jerry Lawler thought Owen Hart was sucking up to the fans in Hamilton, Ontario by wearing a Toronto Argonauts jersey. In fact, Owen was heeling on the fans because Hamilton has its own team, the redundantly named Tiger-Cats. 

As cool as it was to see Christian debut to distract Edge, and as much as we all loved The Brood and the Edge & Christian team, I think Edge was on track to become a singles star if he had continued to receive a solo push.

Al Snow learned that the best way to beat Too Much is to team with another wrestler (Scorpio) rather than an inanimate object (Head). Despite the win, Snow and Scorpio would later team up as part of the J.O.B. Squad.

Jackie didn't bother to bring out the Women's title belt for Marc Mero's match with Droz, but she sported it very proudly the following month at Judgment Day.

Vader got jobbed out again, this time to Bradshaw. Before the match, Bradshaw called Vader fat, showing possible signs of being a bully.

Fan sign: "D-Lo vs. Gangrel: Who Cares?"

The Rock wins the MVP award (surprisingly for the first time) for having the fans in the palm of his hand throughout the three-way cage match against babyface Ken Shamrock and budding babyface Mankind. He earned so much respect at SummerSlam in the ladder match that he really became "The People's Champ."

Dustin Runnels lost to Val Venis, then watched his wife make out with him. Now that's losing a feud. 

One of the best things about the Austin-McMahon feud was how evenly matched it was. Austin didn't always overcome the odds. Here, Vince stacked the deck against him and it worked. Even better were the perplexed faces of Undertaker and Kane after they both pinned Austin but Vince walked off with the belt.

I remember the pop for the double People's Elbow being ungodly. I think that's the first time I really brought The Rock as being a huge star, moreso than the Summerslam match. I don't know what it was but he just seemed to carry himself differently in this match and he just seemed so far above Mankind and Shamrock that it wasn't even funny. Which is certainly no knock on either of those guys b/c they were fairly big stars themselves but rock just seemed like he was on another level after the pre-match promo he cut and the way he handled himself during the match. Also, Mankind has to be the MVP runner-up due to referencing Spaceman Frank Hickey in his pre-match promo.

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On 9/8/2017 at 1:58 PM, cwoy2j said:

I remember the pop for the double People's Elbow being ungodly. I think that's the first time I really brought The Rock as being a huge star, moreso than the Summerslam match. I don't know what it was but he just seemed to carry himself differently in this match and he just seemed so far above Mankind and Shamrock that it wasn't even funny. Which is certainly no knock on either of those guys b/c they were fairly big stars themselves but rock just seemed like he was on another level after the pre-match promo he cut and the way he handled himself during the match. Also, Mankind has to be the MVP runner-up due to referencing Spaceman Frank Hickey in his pre-match promo.

I'm one of those WO listeners who are watching the RAW 1998 shows and the live RAW post-US Open was the show where Rock became IT.  Taker and Kane were the guys killing everyone and Rock was the one guy to stand up to them and when Rock faced Kane and he went for the People's Elbow, THAT was the moment.  That crowd lost their fucking minds over a dumb move.

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Randomly watching No Mercy 1999. Jeff Jarrett hits Chyna with the belt to win the Good Housekeeping IC title match but the decision doesn't stand b/c he didn't use a household item. Chyna then wins the match by hitting him with that very common household appliance, a balsa wood guitar.

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Thoughts on In Your House 24: Judgment Day

Paul Ellering worked out like a maniac so he could wrestle in the LOD-DOA six-man for five seconds. He didn't even take the pinfall. Fortunately, the Road Warriors got the win in Chicago, but Hawk was perturbed with Droz for collecting the pin after the Doomsday Device.

We had a show for Steel City Wrestling right up against this pay-per-view. After the show, Reckless Youth asked if Christian won the WWF light heavyweight title. And he did! This was a great high-flying match.

They ping-ponged the European title from D-Lo Brown back to X-Pac in another good match. Goldust and Venis was also solid. So say what you will about the Attitude Era and Crash TV, but sometimes the wrestling was high quality.

D-Lo returned to help Mark Henry upset the Rock, but everyone knew the Great One was headed to the top sooner or later.

Howard Finkel specifically announced that Shamrock beat Mankind as a result of Mankind knocking himself out with the mandible claw rather than succumbing to the ankle lock. This resulted in a classic Shamrock freak-out.

Austin and McMahon called each other's bluff in the main event. Austin didn't declare Undertaker or Kane the winner. Vince fired his top star, winning the MVP award with the immortal words: "Screw you, Austin! You're fired!" 

(edited to add that the In Your House series did not end here, because Rock Bottom was billed as an In Your House pay-per-view)

 

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*cues up episode of Prime Time and it starts with a warning about language and views not shared by the WWE*

Hmmm...I wonder what this is about?

*cut to Bad News Brown with a live mic, calling Craig DeGeorge a pansy and Bret Hart a pantywaist*

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......

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7 hours ago, elizium said:

*cues up episode of Prime Time and it starts with a warning about language and views not shared by the WWE*

Hmmm...I wonder what this is about?

*cut to Bad News Brown with a live mic, calling Craig DeGeorge a pansy and Bret Hart a pantywaist*

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......

Eh, that's nowhere near as bad as the episode of TNT I just watched where Roddy Piper talked about how it was just MLK Day but isn't it weird that "Mr. T and Junkyard Dog woke up the day after MLK Day and decided to walk around with chains around their necks".

He then said he would fight Mr. T "anytime,anywhere...and I PLAY SUN CITY, MAAAAAAN!"

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On 9/21/2017 at 7:54 PM, Jamal said:

I enjoyed Trailblayzer. I’ve been a Madusa fan for a while so no real new info but nice to see some of the old footage as well as her interactions both with her husband and at the Hall of Fame. 

I was disappointed that they downplayed how good of a WCW run she had. They completely glossed over her feuds with Bull Nakano and Akira Hokuto and jumped straight to the evening gown match and having BBQ sauce dumped on her by Oklahoma. 

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1 hour ago, A Guy Named Tracy said:

I was disappointed that they downplayed how good of a WCW run she had. They completely glossed over her feuds with Bull Nakano and Akira Hokuto and jumped straight to the evening gown match and having BBQ sauce dumped on her by Oklahoma. 

Yea they completely ommitted that they were trying for some sort of division and a cruiser subdivision before everything went off of the rails. 

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Thoughts on Survivor Series 98

The opener of the Deadly Game tournament was hilarious, with Mankind looking over Vince McMahon's shoulder at his opponent's credentials, followed by Dwayne Gill getting scared by his own pyro.

Al Snow won his second straight PPV match, even though he was the leader of the JOB Squad and he was treated like a loser on commentary. Even the JOB Squad won their match on Heat. 

Big Bossman did a great job "accidentally" helping the Rock through the tournament. Bossman lost to the Rock in four seconds and then threw his nightstick to Ken Shamrock, only to have Rock intercept it. Bossman was going to pull similar shenanigans in Rock's semifinal match, but Kane beat him to the punch.

When Steven Regal came out wearing a plaid shirt, I realized that the "He's a maaaan...." theme song is a takeoff of "The Lumberjack Song" by Monty Python. 

Regal and X-Pac totally no-sold the announcement that they were supposed to wrestle an overtime period after their double-countout. X-Pac just limped back to the dressing room and Regal ran after him, when he should have stayed in the ring and won by forfeit.

The three-way tag team match was a disjointed mess. The highlight was the Outlaws' reaction to the enormous sign containing their entire entrance spiel. 

Mankind is the MVP for wrestling four times (twice in a tuxedo), putting himself through the Spanish announce table, getting screwed out of the WWF title, and getting beaten up by The Rock and Stone Cold after the match. 

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I'll always give credit to that show. Vince Russo might be terrible, but his fingerprints are all over that show and the booking and swerves are all impactful and made sense in retrospect/hindsight.

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