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They don't have the roster to sustain a brand split and haven't in years. It only worked originally because they had a bunch of remnants from WCW and the attitude era roster. Eventually that tapered out and they had no clue how to bring guys up from developmental after Brock left. 

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Oh pish tosh, they've got guys we haven't seen for MONTHS.  A brand split would be simple to do.

 

Unfortunately it'd just lead to more random matches that, while good technically, get super boring with no storylines to drive them.

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Since the conversation turned to concussions again, is there a difference between taking a chair shot the way Steve Austin used to do (chair striking only his hands) and someone getting thrown headfirst into the Elimination Chamber or a steel cage?

 

 

The short answer is no.  I've been in a couple of cages, and the impact to the head is minimal unless you just fucking launch yourself into it.  Cages are taxing physically, but the shots to the head are a non issue, since the cage has plenty of give.

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Since the conversation turned to concussions again, is there a difference between taking a chair shot the way Steve Austin used to do (chair striking only his hands) and someone getting thrown headfirst into the Elimination Chamber or a steel cage?

 

 

The short answer is no.  I've been in a couple of cages, and the impact to the head is minimal unless you just fucking launch yourself into it.  Cages are taxing physically, but the shots to the head are a non issue, since the cage has plenty of give.

 

I would think a key difference is a guy being tossed into the cage has control of his body and how he takes the bump.  A chairshot is much morr dependent on your opponent and if they're swinging like Lance Storm lightly touching RVD or Rocky caving in Mankind's skull.

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Im assuming Punk and Brock are both no chance.

 

Is it more or less confirmed that Brock is done with the company after RR?  That's been the rumor, but I haven't listened to Meltzer lately and this is usually the only wrestling site I visit.

 

Brock's been great when he's around, but I don't really think he's been worth the money they pay him.  His contract limits them too much.  They really can't even put him on tv enough to build a feud properly.  I don't know that giving him the belt has gotten them much as anything.  It hasn't made title defenses more important, and they didn't really do anything to build up the secondary belts.

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Even with the amount of times Brock is used, he would have been perfect to really elevate Rollins, Ambrose, or even Reigns.  It just really puts a bee in my bonnet that they had him do all of this stuff, killing everyone, only for it to lead to Cena getting his win back.  What a fucking waste.

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WrestleMania 32 is heading to JerryWorld

 

 

Triple H ‏ @TripleH 4 minutes ago
Go big or go home... @WWE @WrestleMania is coming to @ATTStadium...mark your calendars for 4/3/16. It's #GameTime

 

http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/32/att-stadium-to-host-wrestlemania-32

 

 

 

 

edit: added WWE.com link

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I have an insane theory that Brock leaves WWE with the belt. Brock returns to UFC WITH the WWE World Heavyweight Title. All Vince has to do is hope he wins. The company did three months of TV/PPV without the belt, Vince's need to do something well outside of "wrestling" could lead him to let Brock promote the company as a UFC fighter

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I don't really think Brock Lesnar's serious about returning to MMA.  I just think he's using a potential MMA comeback as negotiating leverage.  Upping his stock on a bluff.

 

WWE's got more than enough talent to split the roster.  They've got like a hundred people under contract.  They've got eight hours of first-run TV and a network with 24-hour coverage.

 

I just don't think they have the right mindset to do it correctly.  Theoretically, they should give SmackDown to Triple H and let him choose his own crew so they can see if he can hack it on something with bigger stakes than NXT.

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I always liked Mike Awesome in WCW. I thought he was criminally miscast. Even in WWE, I thought he could've been better than he was. I wonder why he didn't get more play in either promotion...

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He was a "big guy" only within the scale of ECW which was largely smaller indy-ish guys.  Once he got to a bigger stage, he was a mid-sized guy and that probably didn't help his cause since most of his arsenal was power-based.

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I can't even fathom what kind of card WWE could throw together to fill Cowboys Stadium right now. With Sting in the fold, Lesnar possibly gone and Undertaker's streak over, they don't really have anymore aces up their sleeve.

 

Maybe Shawn Michaels comes out of retirement?

 

Assuming Austin doesn't return and they don't try to wheel Hogan out for one more match, the best in-house main event that I can think of is Ambrose/Reigns/Rollins for the title, if they can keep the three relatively separate for the next year, which will be next to impossible.

 

Maybe Hollywood heel Rock vs. Daniel Bryan?

 

One surefire way to fill the stadium is Cena finally turning heel and main eventing against whoever, but I doubt they do that.

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While we're on the subject on 'Mania in Dallas... when do those tickets go on sale? My festival buddy lives in Austin, and we're already making plans to skip festivals next year and just do WrestleMania instead.

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I can't even fathom what kind of card WWE could throw together to fill Cowboys Stadium right now. With Sting in the fold, Lesnar possibly gone and Undertaker's streak over, they don't really have anymore aces up their sleeve.

 

It's WrestleMania.  It almost doesn't matter what the card is anymore.  That'll be the closest WM will ever get to me, and I'll go even with an Ascension/New Day main event.

 

WM27 was probably one of the more lackluster cards they ever had and it still did 70,000. 

 

I do think getting Austin back one last time (especially getting to end it in the city where he started) could legit break the WM3 number.

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Bryan has been saying in interviews lately that he wants to make SD "his" show. That's why his return match was on SD (which was his idea) and why his big stipulation match for the Rumble against Kane is on SD. He also talked about bringing back King of the Ring and having the matches exclusively on SD. I seem to also recall reading something a bit ago about how they are considering a "soft" brand split, whereas there won't be anything official and won't be separate titles or anything, but there will be guys who are primarily featured on one show. Cena would be the top RAW guy and Bryan the top SD guy.

 

That said, I do think there is more than enough talent to fill two shows. There are guys like Ryder and Justin Gabriel and Slater who haven't been seen in months who could be put on one of the shows and given renewed pushes and start to matter again. A guy like Cesaro would've been great on SD during the hard brand split years ago and would've actually been given a real chance.

 

Fantasy booking time. Let me pretend I'm playing Smackdown v. RAW and have to split the rosters between the shows using the current lineup.

 

 

RAW:                                                 SD:

John Cena                                         Daniel Bryan

Randy Orton                                      Bray Wyatt

Big Show                                            Dolph Ziggler

Wade Barrett                                      A New Day (Kofi, Big E, Xavier Woods)

The Usos                                            Bo Dallas

The Miz                                               Sin Cara

Damien Miz-dow                                  Adam Rose

Roman Reigns                                    Cesaro

Seth Rollins                                         Dean Ambrose

Kane                                                   Fandando

Eric Rowan                                         Luke Harper

Goldust                                               The Ascension

Stardust                                              Heath Slater

Ryback                                               Jack Swagger

Sheamus                                            Los Matadores

Mark Henry                                         Titus O'Neil

R-Truth                                               Zach Ryder

 

 

 

Maybe not a perfect split, but it shows that they certainly do have more than enough guys to fill two shows and still have a decent amount of talent and star power on both.

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The final four would be John Cena, Triple H, The Undertaker and Brock Lesnar because the millennials didn't want it enough to win.

 

I ran out of likes (stupid quota system) so just know this post was appreciated.

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I always wanted to see that and not in a fanboy way but I always wanted Cena break the streak i don't know why but I just wanted to see it. I think its for the perverse fantasy of Cena winning and immediately turning heel.

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