HumanChessgame Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 There is just so much dead weight on Raw. It's 3 hours and always runs over by about 15 minutes, but half of it seems like recaps, tedious, needlessly long promos, and other superfluous bullshit. It's amazing that NXT and ROH's weekly shows can have 3 solid matches, a few promos and vignettes that get across whatever they need to all within an hour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 11 min of Dutch Mantell holding up signs of various qualities https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqF4EsnxMUw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafkonia Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 What if the first hour of RAW was all sports entertainment and the second two hours had wrestling. So instead of booking a 3 hour show. They script one hour of promos and two hours of wrestling with a promo here and there? They did that with Nitro. It stank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 they did it on Nitro with no warning, so some people watched vignettes for an hour unsure of when the show was gonna start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 And it killed the live crowd fucking dead. And it was up against Raw which had a ridiculous amount of momentum heading into the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 If they're gonna have a chunk of vignettes, maybe have it midshow and use it to cover up an intermission. If they're not gonna turn down money for 3hrs, then have a 3hr slot and try to make the content for 2 hours. Maybe don't have overruns either. Or have the top stuff not as backloaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I wonder if they could work something out with USA to make the 8-9 hour a pre-show simulcast on the network. Do some more in depth interviews with guys (i.e. the JR/Goldust and JR/Mankind ones from 1997, or more recently, the Cole/HHH sitdowns) interspersed with the desk segments previewing the night's matches, and then stick one or two "exclusive" matches on there that showcase lower midcard guys, or NXT guys about to be called up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 In two weeks.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 ummm wrong thread?? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehabilitated Rick Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 In two weeks.......... Better than all these ''Raw is shit, this is what will make it better'' tedious posts I've read too much lately on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I thought it was some sort of meta-Jerry Lawler joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 In two weeks an aging QB that thinks he's a model once again loses a championship game to an elite defense? Is that what you were going to type? Because, you know, that's the probable outcome. EDIT: I'm not serious about that above thing. Should be a good game...even if I have a rooting interest and strongly dislike Tommy Brady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Fuck Wrong thread. This is what I get for having this board open in multiple tabs and clicking on the wrong one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 16-man tournament. LORD of the Brass Ring. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 16-man tournament. LORD of the Brass Ring. I can't find a way to shoehorn in a millenial reference here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 16-man tournament. LORD of the Brass Ring. Cesaro loses in the first round on a rollup to El Torito because "he just didn't want it enough." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 The final four would be John Cena, Triple H, The Undertaker and Brock Lesnar because the millennials didn't want it enough to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Damn millennials. Get off Vince's lawn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Damn millennials. Get off Vince's lawn! Vince is going to get a bag of flaming dog shit on his doorstep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Here's a random thought: Chris Nowinski started a lot of the concussion awareness stuff because of his own concussion suffered because of a botched table spot in a match against the Dudleys. If Nowinski never gets that concussion then he never starts the concussion awareness stuff. Are The Dudley Boyz the accidental cause for the concussion discussion or would someone else had started it all if Nowinski hadn't? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 that Benoit dude, probably. Any doctor doing an autopsy could have told you that his brain was the way it was because of way too many concussions, Nowinski's concussion awareness group just pushed it into the public eye. But that is/was a big story and would have changed the views on it regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARMDRAGON Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 @WrestleMania: BREAKING NEWS: @ATTStadium to host @WWE @WrestleMania 32 on April 3, 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Guy Named Tracy Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Since the conversation turned to concussions again, is there a difference between taking a chair shot the way Steve Austin used to do (chair striking only his hands) and someone getting thrown headfirst into the Elimination Chamber or a steel cage? There seems to be plenty of outrage nowadays whenever there is a chair shot to the head: protected or not. EDIT: I am vehemently opposed to unprotected chair shots. I have no problem with a wrestler taking a protected chair shot since the head isn't taking any impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 revising the list. Top TV markets and Wrestlemanias. 1 New York 1985, 1986 (partially), 1994, 2004, 2013 2 Los Angeles 1986 (partially), 1991, 1996, 2000, 2005 3 Chicago 1986 (partially), 1997, 2006 4 Philadelphia 1999 rl. Toronto 1990, 2002 5 Dallas-Ft. Worth 2016 6 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose 2015 7 Boston 1998 8 Atlanta 2011 9 Washington, DC 10 Houston 2001, 2009 11 Detroit 1987, 2007 12 Phoenix 2010 13 Tampa-St. Petersburg 14 Seattle-Tacoma 2003 15 Minneapolis-St. Paul 16 Miami-Ft.Lauderdale 2012 17 Cleveland-Akron 18 Denver 19 Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne 2008 20 Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto sw. Montreal 25 Indianapolis 1992 30 Hartford-New Haven 1995 42 Las Vegas 1993 53 New Orleans 2014 n/a Atlantic City 1988, 1989 (technically part of Philadelphia market) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I really don't think another brand split would fix anything. That was part of the problem that got things off the rails in the first place, in my opinion. Two shows, two world titles, two champions, one show always being the "B" show, one title always being the "B" title, half the PPVs being "B" PPVs & then trying to act like it was a big deal when two mid-card jobbers faced against each other, one from RAW & one from Smackdown. Then the shows feature replays of the other shows & both start with opening diatribes and it just didn't do anything for me. How would that help anything? That just means that instead of watching a 3-hour RAW, which most agree is too long, you would need to tune-in to Smackdown & it's 2-hours instead of just ignoring that it exists. "Bring back the brand split!" is up there with "re-hire Vince Russo!" for me. Just something that I will never be on board with. That's not the problem. You would still have the same creative teams just spread EVEN MORE thin and trying to write for two more hours every week. I don't think the 'B' Title was remotely a problem. Edge made a Hall of Fame career out of that title, the Mark Henry Title reign was awesome in a way that 'Mark Henry: IC Champ' would not have been. I've made my point about this before, I won't labour it any further than to say that the World Heavyweight Title has generally been pretty awesome. Oh yeah, and Eddy (who was WWE Champ, but only because the WHT was on RAW). The Smackdown PPVs didn't work so I'm not in favour of bringing those back. But RAW vs Smackdown stuff often did feel special when it happened. Remember King Booker: Champion of Champions? And yes, it protected match ups. As someone else said, the split brands allowed a deeper roster to be utilised. WWE without undercard gimmicks is missing something - if NXT has proved anything it has proved this. There are guys like the VaudeVillains who would have been awesome on the Smackdown undercard but really have no place to go in the current set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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