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That Regal match- I'm kinda inclined to agree with Regal in retrospect- it did make Goldberg look like a better wrestler.  I remember the steak.  I remember everyone for some reason thinking Goldberg was Kendall Windham out of prison.   I remember being impressed with the monster that knew a few moves.

 

Goldberg should have been a lot bigger than he was, but he had the bad luck of being a WCW guy at the end, which was a curse to many careers.

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just watched his debut this last Monday on Nitro. i decided to do a "live" count of his streak, since i watch Nitro/Saturday Night/Main Event/Worldwide anyway. i'll have to grab the Pro results online tho, can't find those shows to watch. 1-0 so far.

 

anyway, i hated Goldberg with everything i had as a 15 year old fan.

i can't expect my reaction will be much different this time, but i'm looking forward to seeing my views.

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 I remember everyone for some reason thinking Goldberg was Kendall Windham out of prison.  

I was the one who started that.  I remember getting confused and going, "Goddam, Kendall worked out like a motherfucker in prison."  Then my little brother hipped me to the truth.  I am a fool.

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Goldberg's streak in WCW would take impossible leaps each week. Has anyone ever figured out, with the help of today's modern Internet, what the streak was closer to being?

i haven't seen numbers, but i know wcw sometimes would and sometimes wouldn't count house shows. if you include them, i assume the number would be higher than what it is (133 i think) but if you don't it should be substantially lower

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The biggest Vince-era WWF/WWE writing screw-up ever? He was a megastar when they brought him in and an odd punchline when he left. Can't all be his fault.

 

As someone who didn't watch wrestling during this period would someone be kind enough to summarize what happened when Goldberg came to WWE?  Was he buried in the way that McMahon loved to humble top stars from other promotions when they came to his walled garden? 

 

Always liked Goldberg, great athlete, great explosiveness.  He was training MMA submissions with Tim Catalfo before it was cool. 

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Someone at PWO covered the streak. Well started doing the streak and ended up doing his whole career. Here is the post

 

WINS - 308

LOSSES - 27

NC/DRAW - 18

 

Most of the losses were 3-Way, 4-Way matches, Battle Royals or some other type of multi-man match. If anyone is interested in the raw data, I'll be happy to send you the excel file.

 

THE STREAK

 

SOURCE: THEHISTORYOFWWE.COM and DDTDIGEST.COM

 

20 Wins - The Giant (*21 counting handicap against him and Hogan)

 

10 Wins - Jerry Flynn, Perry Saturn

 

7 Wins - Curt Hennig

 

6 Wins - Brad Armstrong

 

5 Wins - Scott Hall, Yuji Nagata

 

4 Wins - Fit Finlay, Glacier, Meng, Steve McMichael

 

3 Wins - Bobby Eaton, Hugh Morrus (*4 counting handicap match against him and Barbarian), Raven, Rick Fuller, Sting, Van Hammer

 

2 Wins - Barry Darsow, Barry Horowitz, Buddy Lee Parker, Konnan, Renegade, Scott Norton, Sick Boy

 

1 Win - Al Greene, Bam Bam Bigelow, Barbarian (*2 counting handicap against him and Hugh Morrus), Brian Adams, Buddy Landel, Chavo Guerrero Jr., Chris Kanyon, DDP, Disco Inferno, Hulk Hogan (*2 counting handicap against him and Giant), Jim Powers, John Betcha, John Nord, Johnny Attitude, Kendall Windham, La Parka, Len Denton, Lodi, Manny Fernandez, Mark Starr, Mike Enos, Mortis, Ray Traylor, Reese, Roadblock, Rocco Rock, Scott Putski, Scotty Riggs, Steve Regal, Stevie Ray, Terrance Black, Vincent, Wayne Bloom, Wrath, 9-Person Battle Royal

 

No Contests - Disco Inferno, Chavo Guerrero Jr., Bam Bam Bigelow, and Kevin Nash/Bam Bam Bigelow in a handicap match.

 

Losses - Kevin Nash

 

From 6/23/97 to 12/27/98 - That gives me 148 Wins, 1 Loss, and 4 No-Contests. It is possible I missed quite a few house show matches, but I'm thinking the list started getting padded middle of the way through.

 

After his win over Perry Saturn at Spring Stampede 1998 (4/19), He is announced at 74-0 and the next night on Nitro when he wins the US Title over Raven it's 75-0. At this point I have 68 wins and 2 No Contests. It's highly plausible I'm missing seven House Show/Dark Matches and the record is legit.

 

After the 5/18/1998 Nitro win over Glacier, he is announced at 88-0.(+13) I have this as win 82(+14).

 

His Great American Bash PPV win over Konnan 6/14/1998 is announced as his 100th win.(+12) I have this as win 95(+13).

 

So far I've went from a difference of 7 (75/68), to a difference of 6 (88/82), and now 5 (100/95).

 

His Bash at the Beach PPV win over Curt Hennig 7/12/1998 is announced as win 112(+12). I have 105(+10). The difference is now back up to 7 (112/105).

 

On Nitro Xtra in early November 1998 a win against Meng is counted as 160(+48), but counting the results I have even the announced number would only be 150. My result count is 143(+38). Difference 17(160/143).

 

The night of Starrcade he is said to be at 174-0(+14), but results I have show announced number should be 165(+5) now with 4 total No-Contests. As of the night of his loss to Nash, results I found show a record of 148(+5).

 

So it looks like the streak was legit (+/- 5) until he won the title from Hogan. At that point it started to get a bit inflated, adding upwards of 25 phantom wins.

 

THE REST

 

Please excuse the formatting

 

Kevin Nash/Bam Bam Bigelow 12/29/1998 House Show Loss Triple Threat match

Kevin Nash/Giant 12/30/1998 House Show Loss Triple Threat match

Giant 1/2/1999 House Show Win

Giant 1/3/1999 House Show Win

Bam Bam Bigelow 1/6/1999 House Show Win

Scott Hall 1/17/1999 WCW Souled Out 17:36 Win Taser Match

Scott Hall/Bam Bam Bigelow 1/18/1999 Nitro Win

Scott Norton 1/25/1999 Nitro Win

Kevin Nash 1/29/1999 House Show Win

Kevin Nash 1/30/1999 House Show Win

Bam Bam Bigelow 2/3/1999 House Show Win

Bam Bam Bigelow 2/7/1999 House Show Win

Bam Bam Bigelow 2/21/1999 WCW SuperBrawl 11:39 Win

Scott Steiner 2/22/1999 Nitro Win

Bam Bam Bigelow 2/26/1999 Nitro Win

Bam Bam Bigelow 2/28/1999 Nitro Win

Scott Steiner/Buff Bagwell 3/1/1999 Nitro Win w/Rick Steiner

Bam Bam Bigelow 3/7/1999 House Show Win

Ric Flair 3/8/1999 Nitro NC

Hulk Hogan/Kevin Nash 3/15/1999 Nitro Loss w/Ric Flair

Meng 3/19/1999 House Show 7:00 Win

Meng 3/20/1999 House Show Win

Hak 3/22/1999 Nitro Win

Hugh Morrus 3/27/1999 House Show Win

Bam Bam Bigelow 3/31/1999 House Show Win

Meng 4/2/1999 House Show Win

Meng 4/3/1999 House Show Win

Ric Flair/DDP/Hulk Hogan 4/5/1999 Nitro NC Four-Way Match

Kevin Nash 4/11/1999 WCW Spring Stampede 7:46 Win

Kenny Kaos 4/12/1999 Nitro Win

Ernest Miller 4/15/1999 Thunder Win Shown 4/22

Meng 4/16/1999 House Show Win

Meng 4/17/1999 House Show Win

Meng 4/18/1999 House Show Win

DDP 4/19/1999 Nitro NC

Ric Flair 4/25/1999 House Show Win

DDP/Sting/Kevin Nash 4/26/1999 Nitro Loss Four-Way Match

Meng 4/29/1999 Thunder Win

Curt Hennig 4/30/1999 House Show Win

Curt Hennig 5/1/1999 House Show Win

Sting 5/9/1999 WCW Slamboree 8:16 NC

DDP 7/23/1999 House Show Win

DDP 7/25/1999 House Show Win

Curt Hennig 7/26/1999 Nitro Win

Sid Vicious/Rick Steiner 8/2/1999 Nitro Loss w/Sting

Rocco Rock 8/5/1999 Thunder Win

Kevin Nash/Sid Vicious/Rick Steiner 8/9/1999 Nitro Win w/Hulk Hogan/Sting Six Man Tag

Rick Steiner 8/14/1999 WCW Road Wild 5:38 Win

DDP 8/15/1999 House Show Win

Barry Windham 8/16/1999 Nitro :30 Win

Rick Steiner 8/20/1999 House Show Win

DDP/Kanyon/Bam Bam Bigelow 8/30/1999 Nitro 5:09 Win w/Hogan Handicap Match

Ernest Miller 9/2/1999 Thunder Win

Bam Bam Bigelow 9/2/1999 Thunder Win Shown 9/9

Rick Steiner 9/5/1999 House Show Win

DDP/Sid Vicious/Rick Steiner 9/6/1999 Nitro Win w/Hulk Hogan Handicap Steel Cage Match

Sid Vicious 9/10/1999 House Show Win

DDP 9/12/1999 WCW Fall Brawl Win

Sid Vicious 9/17/1999 House Show Win

Sid Vicious 9/18/1999 House Show Win

Sid Vicious 9/19/1999 House Show Win

Brian Knobbs 9/20/1999 Nitro Win

Hugh Morrus 9/27/1999 Nitro Win

Scott Norton 9/30/1999 Thunder Win

Sid Vicious 10/1/1999 House Show Win

Sid Vicious 10/2/1999 House Show Win

Sid Vicious 10/3/1999 House Show Win

Jerry Flynn 10/4/1999 Nitro Win

Horace Hogan 10/11/1999 Nitro Win

Lex Luger 10/18/1999 Nitro Win

Sid Vicious 10/24/1999 WCW Halloween Havoc 7:11 Win wins US Title

Sting 10/24/1999 WCW Halloween Havoc 3:09 Win was mystery opponent "won" title

Bret Hart 10/25/1999 Nitro Loss tons of interference

Sting 11/8/1999 Nitro Win

Scott Hall/Bret Hart/Sid Vicious 11/8/1999 Nitro 5:00 Loss Four-Way Ladder Match

Curt Hennig 11/15/1999 Nitro 2:36 Win

Lex Luger 11/19/1999 House Show Win

Sid Vicious 11/21/1999 WCW Mayhem 5:30 Win I Quit Match

Scott Hall/Kevin Nash 11/22/1999 Nitro Loss w/Sid Vicious

Kevin Nash 11/29/1999 Nitro Win

Bret Hart/Chris Benoit + Kevin Nash/Scott Hall 11/29/1999 Nitro Loss Triple Threat Tag Team Cage Match

Bret Hart 12/5/1999 House Show Loss

Jeff Jarrett 12/6/1999 Nitro Win Lumberjack Match

Creative Control 12/7/1999 Thunder 3:01 Win w/Bret Hart, Wins Tag Titles Shown 12/9

Kevin Nash/Scott Hall 12/13/1999 Nitro Loss w/Bret Hart, Lose Tag Titles

Kevin Nash 12/14/1999 Thunder Loss w/Bret Hart, Handicap, House of Pain Match, Shown 12/16

Bret Hart 12/17/1999 House Show NC

Bret Hart 12/18/1999 House Show NC

Bret Hart 12/19/1999 WCW Starrcade 12:07 Loss

Bret Hart 12/20/1999 Nitro 5:55 Loss Bret Hart wins vacant WCW Title

Tank Abbott 6/5/2000 Nitro Win Goldberg's return match after hand injury (12/99)

Kevin Nash 6/12/2000 Nitro NC Goldberg turned heel at Bash 6/11

Horace Hogan 6/19/2000 Nitro 2:36 Win

Tank Abbott 6/22/2000 House Show Win

Jim Duggan 6/26/2000 Nitro Win

Jeff Jarrett/Kevin Nash/Scott Steiner 6/26/2000 Nitro Loss Four-Way

Kevin Nash 7/9/2000 WCW Bash at the Beach 5:29 Win Hall's Contract at stake

Jeff Jarrett/Scott Steiner/Kanyon 7/10/2000 Nitro Loss Four-Way with winner being #1 contender to WCW Title

Scott Steiner 7/18/2000 Nitro NC

Booker T 7/24/2000 Nitro 3:03 Win subbed for Sting

Booker T 7/24/2000 Nitro Loss

Kevin Nash/Scott Steiner 8/13/2000 WCW New Blood Rising Loss Triple Threat

Scott Steiner 8/19/2000 House Show Draw DCO

Scott Steiner 8/20/2000 House Show Win

Shane Douglas 9/4/2000 Nitro Win

Triple Cage War Games 9/4/2000 Nitro 18:46 Loss Kevin Nash/Jeff Jarrett/Scott Steiner/Vince Russo v. Goldberg/Booker T/Kronik

Lance Storm/Elix Skipper 9/5/2000 Thunder Win Handicap Match, Shown 9/6

Scott Steiner 9/17/2000 WCW Fall Brawl Loss Lost via KO

Lex Luger 9/21/2000 House Show Win

Scott Steiner 9/25/2000 Nitro Win Steel Cage

Meng 10/2/2000 Nitro Win

Ron Harris/Don Harris 10/2/2000 Nitro Win

Big Vito 10/7/2000 Nitro Win Australia Nitro shown 10/9

Johnny the Bull 10/7/2000 Nitro Win Australia Nitro shown 10/9

Chuck Palumbo 10/7/2000 Thunder Win Australia Thunder shown 10/11

Shawn Stasiak 10/7/2000 Thunder Win Australia Thunder shown 10/11

Kronik 10/10/2000 House Show Win Handicap Match

David Flair 10/13/2000 Nitro Win Australia Nitro shown 10/6

Elix Skipper 10/13/2000 Thunder Win Australia Thunder shown 10/18

Shawn Stasiak 10/23/2000 Nitro Win

Jeff Jarrett/Kronik 10/23/2000 Thunder Win w/Booker T/Sting, Shown 10/25

Kronik 10/29/2000 WCW Halloween Havoc 3:44 Win Handicap match

Bam Bam Bigelow 11/6/2000 Nitro Win

Lex Luger/Bam Bam Bigelow 11/6/2000 Thunder Win Triple Threat, Shown 11/8

Disco Inferno/Alex Wright 11/10/2000 Nitro Win Handicap Match, Shown 11/13

Lex Luger 11/11/2000 House Show Win

Buff Bagwell 11/12/2000 Thunder Win Shown 11/15

Bam Bam Bigelow 11/13/2000 House Show Win

Kwee Wee 11/20/2000 Nitro Win

Mike Sanders 11/20/2000 Nitro Win

Lex Luger 11/26/2000 WCW Mayhem Win

Reno 11/27/2000 Nitro Win

Lex Luger 12/3/2000 House Show Win

MI Smooth 12/4/2000 Nitro Win

Shane Douglas 12/4/2000 Thunder Win Shown 12/6

Dewayne Bruce 12/11/2000 Nitro Win Shown 12/12

Lex Luger 12/17/2000 WCW Starrcade 7:20 Win No DQ

Buff Bagwell 12/18/2000 Nitro Win

Norman Smiley 12/18/2000 Thunder Win Shown 12/20

Mark Jindrak 12/22/2000 Thunder Win Shown 1/3/01

Lex Luger/Buff Bagwell 1/7/2001 House Show Win w/ Dewayne Bruce

Kronik 1/8/2001 Nitro Win w/ Dewayne Bruce

Lex Luger/Buff Bagwell 1/14/2001 Sin 11:00 Loss w/ Dewayne Bruce, Goldberg would retire if they lost. Goldberg's last WCW Match

Satoshi Kojima 8/30/2002 AJPW PPV 4:02 Win

Taiyo Kea 8/31/2002 AJPW PPV 3:56 Win

Rick Steiner 11/17/2002 AJ/W1 PPV 6:03 Win

Kronik 1/19/2003 AJ/W1 PPV 17:57 Win w/Keiji Mutoh

Rock 4/27/2003 WWE Backlash 13:04 Win WWE wrestling debut

Christian 5/5/2003 Raw NC

Christian 5/12/2003 Raw 6:50 Win Steel Cage

Lance Storm 5/19/2003 Raw Win

Rosey 6/9/2003 Raw 3:25 Win

Jericho 6/15/2003 WWE Badd Blood 10:59 Win

Christian/Chris Jericho 6/16/2003 Raw 9:12 Win

Rodney Mack 6/23/2003 Raw :26 Win

Lance Storm 6/30/2003 Raw NC

HHH 7/20/2003 House Show Loss

Stevie Richards 7/28/2003 Raw Win

HHH 7/28/2003 Raw Win Dark Match

Ric Flair 8/4/2003 Raw Win

Ric Flair 8/11/2003 Raw Win

Ric Flair 8/17/2003 House Show Win

Randy Orton 8/18/2003 Raw Win

Elimination Chamber 8/24/2003 WWE Summerslam Loss HHH, Chris Jericho, Shawn Michaels, Randy Orton, Kevin Nash other participants

HHH/Ric Flair/Randy Orton 9/1/2003 Raw Win w/Maven

HHH 9/7/2003 House Show 1:12 Win

HHH/Ric Flair 9/7/2003 House Show Win w/Maven

HHH/Ric Flair 9/8/2003 Raw NC w/Mystery partner (Randy Orton) -- All three jumped him at match start

HHH/Ric Flair 9/12/2003 House Show Win

HHH 9/21/2003 WWE Unforgiven 14:53 Win Wins WWE Title

Chris Jericho 9/22/2003 Raw 6:58 Win

Ric Flair/Randy Orton 9/28/2003 House Show Win

Ric Flair/Randy Orton 9/29/2003 Raw 5:48 Win w/Shawn Michaels

Mark Henry 10/6/2003 Raw 5:10 Win

Ric Flair/Randy Orton 10/11/2003 House Show Win w/Shawn Michaels

Ric Flair/Randy Orton 10/12/2003 House Show Win w/Shawn Michaels

Ric Flair/Randy Orton/Mark Henry 10/13/2003 Raw 6:08 Win w/Shawn Michaels

Ric Flair/Randy Orton 10/17/2003 House Show Win w/Booker T

Ric Flair/Randy Orton 10/18/2003 House Show Win w/Booker T

Shawn Michaels 10/20/2003 Raw 6:30 NC

Ric Flair/Randy Orton 11/7/2003 House Show Win w/Booker T

Batista 11/10/2003 Raw 2:16 Win

HHH 11/16/2003 WWE Survivor Series 11:43 Win

HHH/Batista/Randy Orton 11/17/2003 Raw 6:13 Loss 3-on-1 non-title Handicap match

HHH/Batista/Randy Orton 11/21/2003 House Show Win w/Booker T

HHH/Batista/Randy Orton 11/22/2003 House Show Win w/Booker T

HHH 11/24/2003 Raw 7:17 Win

Kane 11/28/2003 House Show Win

Kane 11/29/2003 House Show Win

Kane/Batista/Randy Orton 12/1/2003 Raw 13:49 Win w/Shawn Michaels and RVD

Kane 12/8/2003 Raw 5:28 Win Lumberjack Match

Kane 12/12/2003 House Show 6:52 Win

HHH/Kane 12/14/2003 WWE Armageddon 19:30 Loss Triple Threat, Loses Title (12/15/03 Raw) - Bischoff suspends for 30-days for attacking Conway/Dupree

Matt Hardy 1/12/2004 Raw 2:26 Win Return from 30-day suspension

Scott Steiner/Test 1/19/2004 Raw 5:17 Win

6 Man Battle Royal 1/19/2004 Raw 6:58 Win w/ Randy Orton, Chris Jericho, Booker T, RVD, Mark Henry

Royal Rumble 1/25/2004 WWE Royal Rumble 10:00 Loss Royal Rumble Match Eliminates: Charlie Haas, Billy Gunn, Nunzio

Mark Henry/Coach 1/26/2004 Raw 4:23 Win

Kane 2/2/2004 Raw 5:00 NC No Contest after Undertaker puts smoke/lightining in ring and Kane runs off (2/9/04 Raw) - Heyman and Austin speared. Vince suspends Goldberg

Brock Lesnar 3/14/2004 WWE WrestleMania XX 13:48 Win

 

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^Incredibly impressive.

 

If I recall correctly, here's what happened with Goldberg in WWF:

 

1. He comes in, Rock puts him over like Rover like the true champ he is.

2. Silly skit with him wearing a Golddust wig softens monster status in some people's eyes, but not terminal.

3. The problem: His next program is with HHH, who doesn't give Goldberg the same treatment Rock gave Goldberg. First Goldberg loses in an Elimination Chamber match, then goes way too toe-to-toe with HHH at a time in his run when Goldberg should've flattened HHH like a steamroller. End of momentum, and at that point, momentum was everything.

 

Those with better recall, feel free to chime in.

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