Bustronaut Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Niners has terrible taste in movies, Brian, just let it be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Brian hates The Wire, though.. So we're kind of even.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Controversial opinion: I find Star Wars, Star Trek, and Doctor Who to be vastly overrated. Never understood how those shows developed cults. I never really got into Star Wars or Star Trek. Star Wars I think was just a bit before me, as I was a He-Man/Transformers/GI Joe guy. I have fond memories of watching Dr. Who on PBS as a kid in the 80's, but I've never really revisited it as an adult, nor do I have any desire whatsoever to watch the recent stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Disliking it is fine. "It's not a Hulk movie" is baffling. If technobabble exposition is the best you have... Seriously, even the fucking Hulk Dogs come straight out of a story from the comics. Ditto for the daddy issues. It's edited in a way specifically meant to mimic reading a comic book. For all the changes to Hulk's origin, it still comes down to Bruce saving someone else and thus being hit with the gamma radiation (as opposed to the tv show/Norton disaster...) The psychology elements come straight from Byrne and PAD's runs on the book... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Mantlo/PAD. Byrnes 6 issues were crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I appreciate what Ang Lee's Hulk film aimed for with the shooting and editing done to mimic comics but it just didn't work, it's really jarring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Disliking it is fine. "It's not a Hulk movie" is baffling. If technobabble exposition is the best you have... Seriously, even the fucking Hulk Dogs come straight out of a story from the comics. Ditto for the daddy issues. It's edited in a way specifically meant to mimic reading a comic book. For all the changes to Hulk's origin, it still comes down to Bruce saving someone else and thus being hit with the gamma radiation (as opposed to the tv show/Norton disaster...) The psychology elements come straight from Byrne and PAD's runs on the book... It was a joke. It was based on "don't make a Batman movie, make a Tim Burton movie." It was meant to be funny, not personally assail your enjoyment of the film or malign your tastes. Lighten up. No insult was intended. How about this? It wasn't fun. Shouldn't super hero movies be fun? Nobody goes to see a superhero movie because they want a depressing two hour meditation on daddy issues. You can pick elements and defend Lee by saying "it was from the comic!" but Hulk has been around since 1962 and has a long history, from which Lee cherrypicked the elements that appealed to his sensibilities as a filmmaker. It just so happened that the things that appealed to him did not make for an enjoyable comic movie. Is it "a Hulk movie" because it contains elements from the character's 40 year history? That's for fans of the character to judge, I suppose. But it wasn't good as a superhero film. It was an Ang Lee movie first and a Hulk movie second. Imagine a Quentin Tarantino Hulk film with lots of bad language, pages-long discussions of pop culture, and gratuitous shots of feet. But Quentin would still put in stuff from the comics. Would you be okay with that? Ang Lee picked the subject matter that he was interested in and made a dull, maudlin movie around it. I liked The Ice Storm but I don't want to see that kind of thing in a movie about a giant green super hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Ang Lee's Hulk is the Man of Steel of Marvel movies. Except of course, The Hulk isn't meant to be the paragon of virtue in the Marvel universe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I really like Prometheus. It's an awesome movie that makes total sense if you put in the time to re-watch it and read some of the meta materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Movies should not require meta materials. Having said that, I enjoyed Prometheus for what it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 What are the meta materials? I found Prometheus to be a disjointed mess indicative of excessive studio meddling. From what I heard, the studio told Scott to leave out a lot of the stuff that tied it to the Alien franchise because they wanted it to be more standalone, which really ruined it. I still need to read the original script ("Alien: Engineers") to see how much better it should have been. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADCAP Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I never got the complete hatred for Ford Fairlane. I know Dice is a polarizing figure, but for pure silliness, it wasn't a bad movie. Plus, Lauren Holly looking the hottest she's ever looked on film. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 What are the meta materials? I found Prometheus to be a disjointed mess indicative of excessinve studio meddling. From what I heard, the studio told Scott to leave out a lot of the stuff that tied it to the Alien franchise because they wanted it to be more standalone, which really ruined it. I still need to read the original script ("Alien: Engineers") to see how much better it should have been. Nope, Scott brought Lindeloff in and it was his idea to leave a lot of the stuff that tied it to the Alien franchise so it would be more standalone. Hence why he took the majority of the heat for its poor showing and lack of exposition and why Scott didn't want to bring him back. Although he did add the cool David bit at the beginning where he's watching Lawrence of Arabia and stuff It's hard to say The Alien Engineers script is better than Prometheus the film but it definitely had the things we wanted/expected from Prometheus. It's here if you're interested: http://www.joblo.com/scripts/Alien-Engineers-ORIGINAL-PROMETHEUS-SCRIPT.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I never got the complete hatred for Ford Fairlane. I know Dice is a polarizing figure, but for pure silliness, it wasn't a bad movie. Plus, Lauren Holly looking the hottest she's ever looked on film. All this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 What are the meta materials? I found Prometheus to be a disjointed mess indicative of excessinve studio meddling. From what I heard, the studio told Scott to leave out a lot of the stuff that tied it to the Alien franchise because they wanted it to be more standalone, which really ruined it. I still need to read the original script ("Alien: Engineers") to see how much better it should have been. Nope, Scott brought Lindeloff in and it was his idea to leave a lot of the stuff that tied it to the Alien franchise so it would be more standalone. Hence why he took the majority of the heat for its poor showing and lack of exposition and why Scott didn't want to bring him back. It's hard to say The Alien Engineers script is better than Prometheus the film but it definitely had the things we wanted/expected from Prometheus So it was Lindelof and not the studio? Somehow that makes it worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I've never been a big fan of the Alien franchise(I saw Alien at least fifteen years ago and all I can remember about it is how boring the first scenes were) so went in to promethus with a pretty open mind and I liked it alot. Poor Charlez Theron, run the other way! LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I've never been a big fan of the Alien franchise(I saw Alien at least fifteen years ago and all I can remember about it is how boring the first scenes were) so went in to promethus with a pretty open mind and I liked it alot. Poor Charlez Theron, run the other way! LOL Aliens > Alien I'm kinda glad they chose Cameron over bringing back Ridley Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I loved Prometheus, and the amount of criticism it got for Charlize Theron's death (which can be explained as simply as "people who are panicking do irrational things") is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I've never been a big fan of the Alien franchise(I saw Alien at least fifteen years ago and all I can remember about it is how boring the first scenes were) so went in to promethus with a pretty open mind and I liked it alot. Poor Charlez Theron, run the other way! LOL Aliens > Alien I'm kinda glad they chose Cameron over bringing back Ridley Scott. Haven't seen Aliens in forever, but I do remember liking it more. Haven't seen/don't care to see the rest of the series. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Don't worry, you're not missing anything. Although I have warmed to 3 in my later years as its a better standalone than I gave it credit for. It still requires a lot of stuff to happen in Aliens that didn't and at no point was there enough time to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobholly138 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The only good Rambo film is First Blood. Besides Conan the Barbarian and Predator none of Arnold's 80s films have held up. Will Smith is one of the worst actors of the past 40 years. Independence Day was terrible. Seven by Fincher is horrible over-rated and kind of dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobholly138 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I've never been a big fan of the Alien franchise(I saw Alien at least fifteen years ago and all I can remember about it is how boring the first scenes were) so went in to promethus with a pretty open mind and I liked it alot. Poor Charlez Theron, run the other way! LOL Aliens > Alien I'm kinda glad they chose Cameron over bringing back Ridley Scott. See I love Alien and hate Aliens. Aliens is like most Cameron movies,all flash with little substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I've never been a big fan of the Alien franchise(I saw Alien at least fifteen years ago and all I can remember about it is how boring the first scenes were) so went in to promethus with a pretty open mind and I liked it alot. Poor Charlez Theron, run the other way! LOL Aliens > Alien I'm kinda glad they chose Cameron over bringing back Ridley Scott. See I love Alien and hate Aliens. Aliens is like most Cameron movies,all flash with little substance. It's funny because my love for Aliens is matched by my dislike for Avatar partially based on that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Will Smith is one of the worst actors of the past 40 years. Ugh, you're just begging someone to post that Fresh Prince clip again, aren't you? And besides, Will is fucking Olivier compared to Jayden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 The only good Rambo film is First Blood. The '08 Rambo is fucking awesome dude... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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