Brian Fowler Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Is this the part where I run the quote from David Simon that Buffy was a better show than The Wire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Rydell Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 - Unless you're from New Orleans or a huge fan of "New Orleans style" jazz music, than Treme is utterly pretentious and full of characters that are difficult to care about (Steve Zahn's DJ in particular). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I don't know about The Wire being bad...but it's definitely the second-best police show set in Baltimore made by David Simon... Homicide never really gets its due for how great it was...and Luther Mahoney really never gets his due when people talk about all-time great TV villains... It's a shame the show fell down a well after this... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I vote we douse Fowler's opinions in lime and board them up in a vacant building. WHO'S WITH ME? Fowler cheers for the Lions and Michigan football. That's punishment enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 One knock against The Wire is that people usually don't want to be reminded of how horrible the actual real world can be. I mean, Breaking Bad and The Sopranos are dark and all, but at the back of your mind, it's still kinda fun. A middle-aged chemistry teacher going nuts and dealing in drugs, a crime family where the mom tries to murder her son, etc. They're not actual things that usually happen or are pressing problems in America, unlike The Wire which makes it clear how awful things are. It might be the reason it never did too well when it was airing on television. I guess it's the art vs. escapism question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I vote we douse Fowler's opinions in lime and board them up in a vacant building. WHO'S WITH ME? Fowler cheers for the Lions and Michigan football. That's punishment enough. Hush you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I haven't gone back through the whole thread yet, but have we touched on Tabe's view of the Shield? His view of the Shield seems to rival Brian's view of the Wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 NO. Tabe worked through his problems with the early episodes and watched the whole series, ultimately giving it a 7 out of 10. Naturally. That's what inspired my "On a scale of 7 to 7..." quip which Piranesi promptly bastardized into the Tabedoza line and has shamelessly exploited ever since. It was a board landmark moment. A meme was born. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Well aren't you a proud poppa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.J. Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Speaking of controversial The Wire opinions, season 2 is probably my favorite season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Friends sucks and Married..with Children is by far a better sitcom. Fresh Prince is much better also. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I loathe Community. I think it may be the least funny "highly praised" show in the past 20 years. I think I've seen every episode (wife is a huge fan) and I don't think I laughed once at anything not the GI Joe parody episode. I;m not exaggerating. I think the show was mind-numbingly unfunny to the point that I wonder about it's fans (that includes the wife). I basically regard Dan Harmon as a PT Barnum type who is able to sucker the rubes into thinking his stuff is funny and talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Friends sucks and Married..with Children is by far a better sitcom. Fresh Prince is much better also. Don't confuse controversy with fact. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 NO. Tabe worked through his problems with the early episodes and watched the whole series, ultimately giving it a 7 out of 10. Naturally. That's what inspired my "On a scale of 7 to 7..." quip which Piranesi promptly bastardized into the Tabedoza line and has shamelessly exploited ever since. It was a board landmark moment. A meme was born. It's a meter, not a line. This isn't baseball. It's ethics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Friends is another show I really hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I loathe Community. I think it may be the least funny "highly praised" show in the past 20 years. I think I've seen every episode (wife is a huge fan) and I don't think I laughed once at anything not the GI Joe parody episode. I;m not exaggerating. I think the show was mind-numbingly unfunny to the point that I wonder about it's fans (that includes the wife). I basically regard Dan Harmon as a PT Barnum type who is able to sucker the rubes into thinking his stuff is funny and talented. I pretty much feel this way about anything comedy on NBC post-Seinfeld... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I'll see your Community and raise you 30 Rock. I really don't get why that show was so loved. Any time I tried to watch it, it was shit. Just complete shit. Oh, and a callback to some months prior, but Terminator 3 is great. It's nearly as good as Terminator 2. As far as the series goes, it's the second best Terminator. It had a really ballsy finish at a time where directors and writers were weary of giving audiences something other than a Hollywood ending. I also really dug the realization that you can't stop the future from occurring, at best, you can only delay the inevitable. Good action sequences and I felt that the humor worked as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Just to qualify my glib one sentence damnation of The Wire - I watched the first two seasons and got halfway through the third before I tapped out. I've watched the first season about three times as I had to study it on a scriptwriting module I did at uni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Fuck it, I like Friends alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 NO. Tabe worked through his problems with the early episodes and watched the whole series, ultimately giving it a 7 out of 10. Naturally. That's what inspired my "On a scale of 7 to 7..." quip which Piranesi promptly bastardized into the Tabedoza line and has shamelessly exploited ever since. It was a board landmark moment. A meme was born. Hey hey, the Tabedoza Line was my creation. Piranesi did the meme but "Tabedoza" is all me, baby. With a nod to Chris Berman, Tom Paciorek, and Bruce Bochte, of course. And, yeah, I came around on The Shield. It recovered from its laughably bad start to become pretty good. But man...that start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Oh, and a callback to some months prior, but Terminator 3 is great. It's nearly as good as Terminator 2. As far as the series goes, it's the second best Terminator. I'm mostly with you on T3. It's not anywhere near as good as T2 but it's very good and definitely the second best in the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 It's easily behind The Terminator (the perfect blend of sci-fi action and slasher films), T2, and T:TSCC. Not sure where I'd go between it and Salvation though, they were both fairly awful. It's better than Terminator Salvation: Machima at least. But it has one great action sequence (and no doubt, the car chase is flat out incredible film-making), absolutely no heart, and some of the least funny "comedy" ever put on screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I'll see your Community and raise you 30 Rock. I really don't get why that show was so loved. Any time I tried to watch it, it was shit. Just complete shit. Oh, and a callback to some months prior, but Terminator 3 is great. It's nearly as good as Terminator 2. As far as the series goes, it's the second best Terminator. It had a really ballsy finish at a time where directors and writers were weary of giving audiences something other than a Hollywood ending. I also really dug the realization that you can't stop the future from occurring, at best, you can only delay the inevitable. Good action sequences and I felt that the humor worked as well. Damn straight. I'll go one better and say Terminator 4 gets way more shit than it deserves and is a passable-to-good entry in the series. People were too wrapped up in T2 nostalgia to give it a chance. But god damn that movie had some excellent callbacks to earlier films in the series and if you didn't like the CG Young Arnold cameo you can fuck right off. Sam Worthington's coming and going Aussie accent is a little rough, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 I don't think Joss Whedon necessarily writes the great female characters like everyone else says he does. Giving a hot young woman kung fu skills and a gun doesn't magically make her "a strong character." This isn't exactly Jenji Kojan and Orange in the New Black-levels of female diversity and representation here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 But it has one great action sequence (and no doubt, the car chase is flat out incredible film-making), absolutely no heart, and some of the least funny "comedy" ever put on screen. The Transformers series is on line 2.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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