BrianS81177 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Is it controversial to say I can't wait for the super hero bubble to burst? I'm tired of the same plots over and over again. I'm tired of seeing Bruce Wayne's parents get killed on-screen for the 96th time (It was Mr Wayne's own fucking fault for going down a dark, ominous-looking alley in a crime-ridden city in the first place! And why doesn't a rich family have bodyguards?) I'm tired of looking up on screen and knowing 95% is a green screen. I'm tired of bland PG-13 movies primed and micro-managed to appeal to everyone on the planet ever. I'm tired of wondering whether one of these actors is going to drop dead one day due to their blatant steroid abuse. The only superhero movie I've actually been crazy about in the last few years? Dredd. And that died on its ass at the box office because presumably people want to see the 800th Wolverine backstory and not anything original. Steven Sodenburgh is right. These movies aren't terrible and they keep people in work, but they're slowly and surely sapping Hollywood of all creativity. I'm not to the point where I'm tired of them, but I do think the bubble will burst within the next few years. Between 2015-2020 there are TWENTY-NINE movies coming out based on either DC or Marvel properties. Add to that the glut of TV shows that are sure to spring up over the next couple of years and it's real easy to see people getting burned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintthecrippler Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 My biggest issue with the superhero (and other self-conscious franchise) movies now is that when I go to movies I look forward to seeing a story that has a beginning, a middle, and an end. But by Marvel and Warner Brothers basically telling me "theres a ton of movies coming out and they are all interwoven together" that I am never going to walk out of their movies with a sense of story closure and fulfillment because everything will just continue to build to the next movie until the profits stop coming. These movies are basically 200-million dollar episodes of a TV show at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Love The Wire but fuck Stringer Bell. I thought I was alone in my hate of that character but not only am I not alone I'm way behind as Bomani Jones has covered pretty much every problem I had with the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 My biggest issue with the superhero (and other self-conscious franchise) movies now is that when I go to movies I look forward to seeing a story that has a beginning, a middle, and an end. But by Marvel and Warner Brothers basically telling me "theres a ton of movies coming out and they are all interwoven together" that I am never going to walk out of their movies with a sense of story closure and fulfillment because everything will just continue to build to the next movie until the profits stop coming. These movies are basically 200-million dollar episodes of a TV show at this point. Even TV shows tend to have more balls than these franchise movies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Talented actors who really are too good for all this (Elizabeth Olsen, James Spader) but you accept they've got bills to pay and can't turn down gigs like this? I think my favorite part of Comic Con this year was James Spader and Paul Bettany showing up and making it *quite* clear that they know they're better than this and are only doing it for the cash. Granted, I'm not sure Bettany's recent filmography backs him up on that, but I appreciate the lack of false sincerity about the subject matter, nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 My biggest issue with the superhero (and other self-conscious franchise) movies now is that when I go to movies I look forward to seeing a story that has a beginning, a middle, and an end. But by Marvel and Warner Brothers basically telling me "theres a ton of movies coming out and they are all interwoven together" that I am never going to walk out of their movies with a sense of story closure and fulfillment because everything will just continue to build to the next movie until the profits stop coming. These movies are basically 200-million dollar episodes of a TV show at this point. Exactly. That's my biggest gripe with The Hunger Games series. Shit, the last movie didn't even give us half an ending. You've basically watched two hours of material to get to the MIDDLE of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Love The Wire but fuck Stringer Bell. I thought I was alone in my hate of that character but not only am I not alone I'm way behind as Bomani Jones has covered pretty much every problem I had with the character. You know who else is on the Stringer Bell hate bandwagon? Idris Elba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Is it controversial to say I can't wait for the super hero bubble to burst? I'm tired of the same plots over and over again. I'm tired of seeing Bruce Wayne's parents get killed on-screen for the 96th time (It was Mr Wayne's own fucking fault for going down a dark, ominous-looking alley in a crime-ridden city in the first place! And why doesn't a rich family have bodyguards?) I'm tired of looking up on screen and knowing 95% is a green screen. I'm tired of bland PG-13 movies primed and micro-managed to appeal to everyone on the planet ever. I'm tired of wondering whether one of these actors is going to drop dead one day due to their blatant steroid abuse. The only superhero movie I've actually been crazy about in the last few years? Dredd. And that died on its ass at the box office because presumably people want to see the 800th Wolverine backstory and not anything original. Steven Sodenburgh is right. These movies aren't terrible and they keep people in work, but they're slowly and surely sapping Hollywood of all creativity. You don't like mainstream movies. *shrugs* 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Talented actors who really are too good for all this (Elizabeth Olsen, James Spader) but you accept they've got bills to pay and can't turn down gigs like this? I think my favorite part of Comic Con this year was James Spader and Paul Bettany showing up and making it *quite* clear that they know they're better than this and are only doing it for the cash. Granted, I'm not sure Bettany's recent filmography backs him up on that, but I appreciate the lack of false sincerity about the subject matter, nonetheless. Isn't Bettany's career essentially centered around delivering good performances in not good movies? There's a lot more misses than hits in that filmography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 My biggest issue with the superhero (and other self-conscious franchise) movies now is that when I go to movies I look forward to seeing a story that has a beginning, a middle, and an end. But by Marvel and Warner Brothers basically telling me "theres a ton of movies coming out and they are all interwoven together" that I am never going to walk out of their movies with a sense of story closure and fulfillment because everything will just continue to build to the next movie until the profits stop coming. These movies are basically 200-million dollar episodes of a TV show at this point. Yeah, that's an annoying trend in movies now. Paranormal Activity is basically the same. It's like, yeah, I'm interested in what this coven are up to, but can we actually get to the story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I don't think that's actually been that big a deal in most superhero movies. They do all tend to resolve their main plot in the movie. They carry on things for a sequel hook, but it's not like they are ending them with the showdown with the big bad still looming (even when they should have *cough*Two-Face*cough*) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Talented actors who really are too good for all this (Elizabeth Olsen, James Spader) but you accept they've got bills to pay and can't turn down gigs like this? I think my favorite part of Comic Con this year was James Spader and Paul Bettany showing up and making it *quite* clear that they know they're better than this and are only doing it for the cash. Granted, I'm not sure Bettany's recent filmography backs him up on that, but I appreciate the lack of false sincerity about the subject matter, nonetheless. Isn't Bettany's career essentially centered around delivering good performances in not good movies? There's a lot more misses than hits in that filmography. I believe everyone read the script for Firewall and accepted it was garbage except Paul Bettany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Talented actors who really are too good for all this (Elizabeth Olsen, James Spader) but you accept they've got bills to pay and can't turn down gigs like this? I think my favorite part of Comic Con this year was James Spader and Paul Bettany showing up and making it *quite* clear that they know they're better than this and are only doing it for the cash. Granted, I'm not sure Bettany's recent filmography backs him up on that, but I appreciate the lack of false sincerity about the subject matter, nonetheless. Isn't Bettany's career essentially centered around delivering good performances in not good movies? There's a lot more misses than hits in that filmography. I believe everyone read the script for Firewall and accepted it was garbage except Paul Bettany. This was the movie that I automatically thought about. Harrison Ford went beyond collecting a paycheck in that movie. He acted the entire film in the same voice with zero inflection for the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Apparently Avengers 3 might be split into three movies because, well, it's a cash grab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I wonder what horrendous "Bendis has carte blanche"-era Marvel crossover Avengers 3 will be loosely based on. Secret Invasion? Fear Itself? Original Sin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I'm hoping they just straight-up do Secret Wars. Maybe by then they can finally bring some of the other movie franchises back into the fold, or at least work out some kind of profit-sharing deal so that the other studios will let them use any character from the comic. Unlikely, I know, but a man can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Is it controversial to say I can't wait for the super hero bubble to burst? .....I'm tired of looking up on screen and knowing 95% is a green screen. .... THIS is what absolutely killed Iron Man 2 for me. The big final battle was Iron Man and War Machine vs a bunch of robots and it suddenly hit me that I was just watching a glorified cartoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Even the most mundane stories have gaggles of CG artists working on them. That's just how the industry works nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Is it controversial to say I can't wait for the super hero bubble to burst? .....I'm tired of looking up on screen and knowing 95% is a green screen. .... THIS is what absolutely killed Iron Man 2 for me. The big final battle was Iron Man and War Machine vs a bunch of robots and it suddenly hit me that I was just watching a glorified cartoon. Money aside, I imagine being an actor on one of these films isn't that much fun. It seems like most of the time you're in front of a green screen or pretending to interact with someone/something that isn't actually there. I casn see why someone like Paul Bettany can't even try to act excited about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Remember when Bettany was hot shit, like, a decade ago? I was so sure he was going to rule the world after he showed up out of nowhere and stole the show in A KNIGHT'S TALE. He followed that up with the incredible MASTER AND COMMANDER, and then he was heavily rumored for the Joker in TDK, but that didn't happen for him and then...kaput. I oft lament that we live in a world with a dozen franchises based on YA novels but only one MASTER AND COMMANDER movie. Fuck, there are two PERCY JACKSON movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Is Bettany still married/partnered with Jennifer Connelly? If so, who needs to go out and make crappy movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Yes. There are definite positives to his life. Good thing he locked that down early in life, though. Dude looks rough to only be in his early 40's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 Return to Oz is better than The Wizard of Oz. I loved how dark and frightening it was as a kid. And while Fairuza Balk wasn't Garland-levels of iconic, she brought her own qualities to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeball Wizard Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Animal House and Monty Python and the Holy Grail are both a total snooze. Boring and overrated, Animal House slightly moreso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Re: the last two posts: This is the controversial opinions thread, not the batshit crazy wrong opinions thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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