evilwaldo Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Fun fact i heard today : Goodell started at the NFL as a college intern and never left. Someone mentioned he remembered Goodell giving up press credentials at the Super Bowl years and years ago. The Phillies have the same problem with Montgomery as President and main partner although he stepped down to fight cancer.When you are in a business for 30+ years it is a nice achievement but you can clearly see the business mistakes of having one vision your entire career. From afar, it seemed like he ran the Phillies better than Bill Giles did. That is probably true but you see things like holding onto the past, acceptance of mediocrity, and an ivory tower for their decisions. They got lucky on their WS run, the teams for the next two years were better but fell short. In terms of the NFL you see the ivory tower that they cannot do wrong and that their way of business is correct. No outside influence as evidenced with the independent panel which is headed by someone who previously worked with the NFL and two owners but no women. Goodell seems fine with the punishments and code of conduct in the CBA and is resistant to change. A huge step forward would be admitting that the Code of Conduct and suspensions are a problem and that they need to renegotiate these issues in light of current events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Reporters caught a picture of Goodell in public today: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Hattrick Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 This is my usual dumbass thought for the day, but could Rice sue the NFL for some buggered up form of Double Jeopardy?.. I *know* it's not DJ, but it's the best way I could describe the situation, at the moment. If anyone could tell me a better word to describe it, I would be grateful? Kurt, do you happen to have the answer, by chance? Double Jeopardy is a legal procedural defense. The NFL as an entity renders that null and void since: 1) It is a private association and a private league with its own by-laws. 2) Rice is subject to the same collecitive bargaining agreement that binds the Players Union and the League. The League agrees to salary terms while the Players Union agrees to obey the league bylaws. Always be mindful of corporate culture when you consider taking a job. Yeah, I meant to mention that I know that NFL Rules are not equal to Government Laws. I had it in my head, but I didn't put pen to paper in this case. I was just wondering if Rice had a case, other than an appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 almost every woman I've ever dealt with has hit me harder than she hit him just joking around Perhaps it's time to ask why we as a society accept that it's OK for women to punch guys hard while just "joking around". Because it's super low on the list of problems that arise between men and women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Hattrick Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Reporters caught a picture of Goodell in public today: Damn it, every time I see that picture, I always get conflicted emotions. I feel bad for the poor creature, yet I can't help but to laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I would think Rice could file a suit for defamation of character, strange as that sounds. But it's clear he didn't lie about his actions, and Goodell based the indefinite suspension with the supposed lying as a key component. Though if he's reinstated quickly, I doubt Rice would sue anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Hattrick Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I would think Rice could file a suit for defamation of character, strange as that sounds. But it's clear he didn't lie about his actions, and Goodell based the indefinite suspension with the supposed lying as a key component. What if Goodell is shown the door and Rice just sues him and not the NFL itself? Eh, he probably won't do it no matter what. I'm sure in his eyes, the sooner this is put in the past, the better.I knew Rice may have had some form of a grivance, but couldn't get into my head as to what. Defamation of Character seems to fit. It was just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Rice will not go that road. He knows that it will open up again and he does not want that in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I can see some sort of grievance to get the suspension reduced, especially given what has gone down with Goodell, but a lawsuit is a bridge too far given that he did in fact knock his fiance/wife out cold and its on video. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Does Adrian Peterson go here now too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 DVDVR © NFL CRIME LOG! I nominate myself as crime log czar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 This is my usual dumbass thought for the day, but could Rice sue the NFL for some buggered up form of Double Jeopardy?.. I *know* it's not DJ, but it's the best way I could describe the situation, at the moment. If anyone could tell me a better word to describe it, I would be grateful? Kurt, do you happen to have the answer, by chance? Double Jeopardy is a legal procedural defense. The NFL as an entity renders that null and void since: 1) It is a private association and a private league with its own by-laws. 2) Rice is subject to the same collecitive bargaining agreement that binds the Players Union and the League. The League agrees to salary terms while the Players Union agrees to obey the league bylaws. Always be mindful of corporate culture when you consider taking a job. The CBA does include a "double jeopardy"-like clause when it comes to suspensions, however. So, if he can show he didn't lie, Rice most definitely has a claim under the CBA against the NFL for increasing his suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I waiting to start the AP dumpster fire thread until there are more details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Does Adrian Peterson go here now too? All I can tell you is, if you're already annoyed by the "Ray Rice has got a right to defend himself" crowd, you might wanna turn and look the other way when the "AP has a right to discipline his child/I was hit with a switch or belt as a child and I turned out alright" crowd comes out for that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzkrieg Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 A bit of a sad state we're at currently when it comes to the sports world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHFP Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 You know things are wrong when the Cavs have the only positive headline. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 You know things are wrong when the Cavs have the only positive headline. And it's only slightly positive in my view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Aaaaaaand Peterson has been deactivated for Sunday. My work fantasy team is a disaster and it's only Week 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yeah and the police release on the story is not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbie Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 You know things are wrong when the Cavs have the only positive headline. I thought the one about that South African guy was the best. He did that shit just last year and is getting ready to hanged. That's a civilized justice system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 You know things are wrong when the Cavs have the only positive headline. Giancarlo Stanton's improving face now wears a frown. Seriously though, sports TV/radio sounds like a police scanner right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Waiting for AP's wife to throw him under the bus for whatever he took to come back so quickly from his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 The AP thing is mystifying because he literally dealt with the loss of a child due to this exact thing less than a year ago. You'd think it would put things in perspective a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Supposedly, Peterson had little if anything to do with the deceased child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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