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I’d argue Starman wasn’t the same after Tony left the book and Grand Guingol went on way too long. 

The funny thing about Slott’s Run is just how many different relationships Peter has had. Him being paired with Mockingbird just seems so weird. 

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On ‎08‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 12:27 AM, Keep Calm, Akira Hokuto On said:

Whoever was supposed to sell me on Aaron's Thor run so I became hooked on it did not do their job.  I think I picked up an issue or two early on, but wasn't really sold.  Aaron's Woverine and the X-Men run was probably fresh in my mind (didn't like that at all).

On a whim, grabbed a couple Thor tpb's from the library.  Turned out to be the first three Jane Foster as Thor trades.

OK, I'm hooked.  Seriously hooked.  When I get some time, I'm going to Comicbookdb to get a complete list of Aaron's Thor-related run, then to Amazon to drop some cash.

Is the Thors mini-series that came out during Secret Wars relevant to the ongoing books?

Also, I'm completely unfamiliar with the artist drawing Thor, but the art in the trades I read was pretty damn great.

Second @Eivion's God Butcher recommendation. I'd go for Thor: Who Will Wield The Hammer? and Thunder in her Veins, both Jane Foster Thor so I'm not sure if those are among the ones you've read. I tend to have to piece the run order together from what's at my library. Thors is good as a standalone tribute to Thors past and present. The artist is Esad Ribic and he's great. Check out Secret Wars drawn by him and written by Jonathan Hickman, one of the best event books I've read.

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21 hours ago, Matt D said:

I don't necessarily have anything against Slott's ASM run, but there's a reason they switch up creative teams after a while. Whenever he drops a "brand new status quo" issue, you get the strong sense of diminishing returns. 

 

20 hours ago, Keep Calm, Akira Hokuto On said:

Yeah, Spider-Man has had it's share of high points under Slott - and I loved Superior Spider-Man - but it really does think he's running on fumes.

I actually like longish runs.  In general, I don't think 5-7 years is too long a run if the writer is motivated. I'd prefer a seven-year run with some slow periods to changing creative teams and status quo every two years or so, as is the norm these days.  But, realistically, most writers don't have plans for seven years of stories when they sign on, or they lose interest and move on to other projects.   Neither the marketplace or the business model is set up for a years-long run.  Starman and David's Hulk run are the outliers (and there are plenty of down periods in David's Hulk).

Slott's an odd one for me.  I've mostly enjoyed his ASM run - and Superior was outstanding - but i don't consider him a great writer or one of my favorites.  At the moment, i have virtually no interest in reading anything else Slott has written or seeing him jump to a new book after he leaves ASM.

This. Dan Slott should have gone a while ago, Superior Spider-Man ending was the right time. Best comic run for me is Grant Morrison's Batman.

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It feels like the end of Superior would have been the logical jumping off point for Slott.  He had already told a lot of stories by the time Superior rolled around and the ending of Superior paid off most of what he'd been setting up in ASM, as well as putting Pete  back in the mask and reaffirming that Peter Parker wanted to be Spider Man.  It was also a fitting conclusion to Ock's character arc.  For me, most of the fun stuff had already taken place by the end of Superior.  What's been done since then has been a case of diminishing returns.  I did enjoy Spider-verse a lot.

It seems likely that Slott's actual departure from the book will feel less important that it would have if he had left when Pete reclaimed the Spidey identity.

I actually dislike most of Peter Parker's character development under Slott, from the multiple relationships to becoming (fairly easily) a "sooper scientist' to becoming Tony Stark-lite.  The reinvention of his character after Superior as a jet-setting tech billionaire was probably a bad idea.

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The Amazing Spider-Man: Worldwide Vol. 3: Power Play collects The Amazing Spider-Man (Vol. 4) #1, #12-15 and The Amazing Spider-Man Annual #19. The material taken from The Amazing Spider-Man (Vol. 4) #1 was the surprise return of Regent from the Amazing Spider-Man (Vol. 1): Renew Your Vows. In Amazing Spider-Man (Vol. 4) #12-15, Regent is doing what he did in the original Renew Your Vows taking powers but this time he’s in the mainstream Marvel Universe. I got this from my library to see how it was. I didn’t like this story: Peter Parker and Tony Stark are very unlikeable with petty squabbling, such a difference to the Peter in the Renew Your Vows miniseries. The younger Miles Morales’ Spider-Man behaves better than these two. Regent’s a one-note villain as in the miniseries but I preferred his reasoning there. I’m not a fan of Peter Stark. Parker Industries suited Otto Octavius more when he was in control of Pete’s body.

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The Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows (Vol. 2) #10 by Ryan Stegman. The issue takes a look at Normie Osborn and it’s a good issue putting his POV across. We see why he acts the way he does. A encouraging start by Ryan Stegman as writer on his own. I was wondering how he would do.

The Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows (Vol. 2) #11 by Ryan Stegman. The first part to what this volume of the series has been building to as Normie Osborn goes for his revenge on Spider-Man. A very good busy issue. I liked the commentary on the Osborn curse/legacy and seeing Spidey with added aggression.

The Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows (Vol. 2) #12 by Ryan Stegman. The Goblin Mech needs stopping while Spiderling needs rescuing. A good but rushed issue, the highlight is the final panel between Spiderling and Normie Osborn with the history of Spider-Man vs. the Green Goblin preceding them.

This ended the Gerry Conway/Ryan Stegman and Ryan Stegman runs on the book. Final verdict? A very good run with a better Spider-Man (more likeable/competent), Mary Jane and a new addition in Annie May Parker than the mainstream versions. The book’s main problem was pacing, the X-Men, VenoMJ and this one needed an extra issue at least. More should have been done with Young Annie at school and the Daily Bugle. The rush may be from doubts of cancellation?

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Ben Reilly: The Scarlet Spider #1-10. I started my Spider-Man reading as a child with the Astonishing Spider-Man, a monthly UK book collecting recent and classic stories. The recent were made up of the Clone Saga as Ben Reilly was found to be the original Peter Parker, Pete’s Spider-Man teaming up with Ben’s Scarlet Spider and Ben taking over as Spider-Man. I found out what happened to Ben after I stopped reading it killed by the Green Goblin’s glider and he was the clone to no surprise. I always liked Ben Reilly but he was never brought back despite teases by Marvel and fans of his. Ben was brought back in the Clone Conspiracy by Dan Slott as the Jackal. It was good Ben being used again but not like this, made no sense to be the Jackal for all Professor Miles Warren did to him and as a baddie, I’d rather Ben Reilly stayed dead.

I finally got round to reading these to see what I made of the series whereas the other books on my pull list, I read straight away or shortly after getting them. Ben Reilly: The Scarlet Spider is written by Peter A David with Mark Bagley/Will Sliney taking turns on art.

I’d break them into chunks, #1-5, #6-7 and #8-10. 1#5, Ben Reilly arrives in Las Vegas for Cassandra Mercury who owns Mercury Rising Casino to help him as he helped her daughter, Abigail. Ben didn’t but this time he says he will fix her incurable condition. Kaine Parker is on his trail for what Ben’s done as the Jackal. The two Scarlet Spiders get it on. The first few issues are ropey/shaky seeing Ben act so differently to what we know: using a gun, asking for payment to someone he saved and lying. Good seeing Ben and Kaine battle with the lengthy history between them.

#6-7 is the turning point for the book upwards as a mystery woman arrives who knows things including about the Scarlet Spider. #7 is the best issue from the series so far on death and why Ben is the way he is, his soul damaged with what he’s gone through/done. #8-10 people from Identity Crisis return: Hornet, Ricochet and Dusk and its fun so far. I read about Identity Crisis from a Spider-Man Guide book from my parents in 2001. I’ve liked Ben Reilly: The Scarlet Spider after the poor start. Ben is trying to improve himself and he has his own humour. Cassandra Mercury, Slade and that woman from #6-7 are good editions to the cast. June is abrupt/one note. The book did right getting rid of the new Scarlet Spider costume for the classic original.

I’m tagging @The Unholy Dragon in this post as he likes Ben Reilly but didn’t like the first issue. I’m with him on both counts.

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So CB Cebulski has been confirmed as having written under the pseudonym Akira Yoshida.

 

Aside from wonky legal stuff since he was breaking Marvel policy in a corporate fraud way by breaking their policy about editors not also working as writers and getting paid for both, there's real dodgy racial tones about him spending over a year pretending to be Japanese. 

 

Day one as EiC. This could be ugly.

 

But like...if it was gonna be anyone, OF COURSE it was him.

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Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man #6. A deal is made by Spider-Man and J. Jonah Jameson, Spider-Man will be interviewed by JJJ in return for information on Teresa Durand. This was a great issue with the contents of the talk between the two and their history. A newsworthy issue. Chip Zdarsky story and art by Michael Walsh compliments one another. On a whim, I checked out the word of mouth for the issue and from the high praise, I bought it.

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10 hours ago, The Unholy Dragon said:

So CB Cebulski has been confirmed as having written under the pseudonym Akira Yoshida.

 

Aside from wonky legal stuff since he was breaking Marvel policy in a corporate fraud way by breaking their policy about editors not also working as writers and getting paid for both, there's real dodgy racial tones about him spending over a year pretending to be Japanese. 

 

Day one as EiC. This could be ugly.

 

But like...if it was gonna be anyone, OF COURSE it was him.

Everyone knows the worst case but in the best case it really paints him as a doofus. Let me reiterate: just what makes CB qualified for this job? Yes, I get that he's sort of like the guy who's done all the jobs in the kitchen, but past "well regarded talent scout" and maybe "guy who played well in Asia until yesterday" and "guy who wrote a vaguely enjoyable X-Men: Fairy Tales series" and a number of other "guy with diminishing returns" mentions, what really stands out? Say what you will about Alonso but he came in with a lot of editorial cache (and to be honest, I think he did an excellent job, far better than Quesada and I was actively dreading the guy when he was named). That's probably the last thing Cebulski is known for.

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On 11/28/2017 at 2:09 AM, The Natural said:

Ben Reilly: The Scarlet Spider #1-10.

I’m tagging @The Unholy Dragon in this post as he likes Ben Reilly but didn’t like the first issue. I’m with him on both counts.

cheers for the reviews. like the UnholyDragon, i read the first issue  but didn't enjoy it. i've stayed away from the series since, although i have been curious. will take this as my invitation to check it out.

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4 hours ago, twiztor said:

cheers for the reviews. like the UnholyDragon, i read the first issue  but didn't enjoy it. i've stayed away from the series since, although i have been curious. will take this as my invitation to check it out.

You’re welcome, @twiztor. Hope you like it.

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Spider-Gwen (Vol. 2) #19. A new story starts as Matt Murdock needs Spider-Gwen’s blood to cure Harry Osborn. I liked this issue particularly for the opening with Spider-Gwen/a cop and the back of an Earth-65 character on the last page, their debut version of a famous Earth-616 character. Big negative is no bio, a favourite thing of mine.

Spider-Gwen (Vol. 2) #20. Spider-Gwen wants to save Harry Osborn from his adversaries with two from S.H.I.E.L.D. One of them is Wolverine from Earth-65! Foggy Nelson asks Matt Murdock how to deal with the George Stacy problem. This made for a bloody good issue particularly the two page origin of Wolverine, these two page origins have been a strength of the series since the very beginning.

Spider-Gwen (Vol. 2) #21. The George Stacy problem solution between Matt Murdock and Foggy Nelson is the highlight of the issue using someone we’ve not seen in ages. This take on Matt Murdock is one of my favourite alternate versions of a character, it works even though it’s so different to the person we know. Skill that.

Spider-Gwen (Vol. 2) #22. We get the aftermath of the Matt Murdock plan dealing with Captain George Stacy. Spider-Gwen tries to free Harry Osborn from his Lizard form as the radiation in Gwen’s powers can turn it into something we know, Venom. Another good issue.

Spider-Gwen (Vol. 2) #23. This was fun starting with Uatu, Watcher of Earth-65 commentary on the Spider-Gwen/Venom story ( it’s “paused”for this issue) and another Wolverine. The story is about the Mary Janes, it’s good to see Gwen’s supporting cast get the spotlight. The downside to the issue is two different artists along with series regular Robbie Rodriguez.

Spider-Gwen (Vol. 2) #24. concludes the Predators story as Spider-Gwen fights Venom made by her abilities and the Lizard’s regeneration, she then hosts it. A good issue, I do like this version’s Gwen Stacy and Matt Murdock.

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17 hours ago, twiztor said:

cheers for the reviews. like the UnholyDragon, i read the first issue  but didn't enjoy it. i've stayed away from the series since, although i have been curious. will take this as my invitation to check it out.

I'll say this, the second arc has been better than the first. But then, it gets a lot of goodwill from me for bringing back the Slingers.

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Got caught up on Jason Aaron's Thor run.  Lotta fun.  Recommend it highly.

Also picked up the four volumes of Aaron's recent Dr. Strange run.  Didn't love this a whole lot.  Aaron's writing never quite did it for me.  Liked his attempt to make magic seem like it has consequences for Strange, and some of the ideas (using the thing in the seller as a surrogate for Doc's pain), but mostly the writing fell flat for me.  Was never very interested in the Empirikul or the idea that magic was more or less erased - for one story arc during which Doc found enough to get by.  Generally felt like the book was mostly just a showcase for Chris Bachalo's wacky art (not that that's a bad thing).

Aaron's superhero stuff is kinda hit and miss for me but I do plan to pick up his Ghost Rider run soon.

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