The Natural Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Doom snapped PhoenixClops' neck Cheers. From what I've followed of the story, Doom is squashing everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Z Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Is there a crankier old man than John Byrne? I just read the whole Dan Slott/John Byrne "discussion" on BleedingCool and Slott couln't possibly be any more polite and even kisses Byrne's ass as much as humanly possible and Byrne is all like "Get off my lawn, you damn whippersnapper". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Byrne isn't a cranky old man. He's a dick. He's ALWAYS been a dick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Uncanny: Steve Rogers, Rogue, Quicksilver, Brother Voodoo, Spider-Man (Parker), Toro, Deadpool According to IGN, that's not Toro, it's Inferno, the Inhuman. The tagline they use is "Fighting for Humanity, Inhumanity, Mutants.... and Deadpool." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Man, you guys have been awfully negative on Marvel for an awfully long time. I'm only a casual follower, but I think Secret Wars has been great and I'm excited to see some of these shake ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Guardians of the Galaxy: Rocket, Groot, Drax, Venom, The Thing, and what is assumed to be Kitty Pryde. I think it's Peter Quill's sister. Wouldn't make sense for Peter to decide to live on Earth with Kitty and Kitty to peace out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Z Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Byrne isn't a cranky old man. He's a dick. He's ALWAYS been a dick. Fair enough. I probably would be able to take his opinion more seriously, if his output over the last 20 years wasn't so awful and he wasn't involved with some of the worst Spider-Man stories. Man, you guys have been awfully negative on Marvel for an awfully long time. I'm only a casual follower, but I think Secret Wars has been great and I'm excited to see some of these shake ups. I'm only negative towards their treatment of the X-Men and Fantastic Four. I have a "wait and see" atittude towards everything else. I actually like a lot of their books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I've been very high on Marvel the past several years (ten? More?). When I was really into comics (late 80's/early 90's), DC had a lot of writers I really dug working for them. Grant Morrison, James Robinson, Neil Gaiman, The Marvel line back then tended to have good art (albeit a lot same-ie looking styles, courtesy of what became the Image founders) and occasionally be well written (Peter David's Hulk, Kurt Busiek's really fun run on Avengers), etc. As I said a few posts back, I buy books mostly on the strength of who's writing them. So I was a much bigger DC fan than Marvel. That's turned around in the past 15 years. Marvel seems to have better writers and as more focused product. The X-Men have had a lot of good creative teams lately. I dug Fraction's run quite a bit. Gillen's run was probably the best the book has been. Mike Carey had good runs on two different X-books, as did Bendis. Rememder's X-Force was outstanding. Most of the A books have had at least a really good run or two over the past several years, and a lot of the B characters have gotten great runs (Brubaker on Iron Fist, Fraction's Hawkeye, etc.). I've loved Hickman's Avengers epic and Secret Wars has been a lot of fun so far. After that, it's up in the air. 'm not too interested in the across-the-board changes they seem to be making, but Marvel's done a lot of radical things to individual books status quo's the last few years and those experiments have mostly worked (young X-Men, SpOck, female Thor). But I'm not so attached to the characters that that even bugs me much. My main gripe is the company's rotation of writers seems a step down from what Marvel's had the past few years. Nothing against Hopeless or Cullen Bunn, but nothing they've done to date has interested me as much as a good Rememder or Fraction book. If I named ten or 12 writers who have worked for Marvel recently and who I want to see writing a new Marvel book, only two or three look to be writing Marvel books post-Secret Wars. No Fraction, Rememder, Carey. etc. makes me a sad camper. Honestly, the only thing I'm really negative about/ is the Fox/X-Men thing. I don't believe for a second that they'll succeed in making the Inhumans this decade's mutants. I like the core Inhumans well enough (the Royal Family), but I've never really though there was a lot of interesting characters in the group. Forcing the Inhumans into seemingly every corner of the line and hitting a lot of the same notes they've hit with mutants for the past 20 years does nothing for me, They'll be three or four books that make my pull list (Bendis' Spider Man book, Squadron Supreme, Thor), and I'll check out a lot of the rest, but only a couple of the maybe's look even mildly interesting to me. On the other hand, Marvel isn't DC so there's some reason to think the line will keep it together.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 Marvel does still have Lemire, so not all the good writers are leaving. I'm not sure what all he has done at Marvel , but i'd say Sixth Gun is better than anything Bunn has done there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MushroomJones Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I'm not sure what all he has done at Marvel , but i'd say Sixth Gun is better than anything Bunn has done there. Bunn's indie stuff is good to great but his Marvel stuff has been good as well if not on short runs: - Fearless Defenders - a more extended run on Venom (surprised no return to the cliffhanger ending in that book) - Wolverine (following Aaron) - Magneto (dipping it's toe into great) - the glut of "Deadpool Kills" miniseries - caveat emptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Man, you guys have been awfully negative on Marvel for an awfully long time. I'm only a casual follower, but I think Secret Wars has been great and I'm excited to see some of these shake ups. I'm generally fine with Marvel. I'm loving Secret Wars. I'm just not very excited for what comes after it so far as most books are either using casts I'm not big on (all three X-men titles, ANAD Avengers), are using writers I'm not big on (Bendis on Guardians), writers who I think may be misplaced (Duggan on Uncanny Avengers), or just haven't grabbed with the current planned plots (Amazing Spider-man) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I met John Byrne in 1982 at a Convention when I was 12 and he was super nice to me. So he hasn't ALWAYS been a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 I think I would be disappointed if I met Byrne wasn't a jerk. That's how I felt the first time I met Howard Chaykin. Admittedly, it was at San Diego and i was trying to explainthe Toby Danger cartoon playing at the DC booth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APO Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Man, you guys have been awfully negative on Marvel for an awfully long time. I'm only a casual follower, but I think Secret Wars has been great and I'm excited to see some of these shake ups. Marvel: Uncanny Inhumans & Mutants 4:30pm – 5:30pm Room 6DE Terrigenesis is upon us! Join Editor In Chief Axel Alonso, writers Charles Soule, Cullen Bunn, and Jeff Lemire, and artist Humberto Ramos to get the 4-1-1 on Marvel’s royal family and merry mutants. What does the future have in store for Black Bolt, Queen Medusa, Cyclops, Storm and the rest of the gang? And how do their stories intertwine in this all-new all-different age of storytelling? Find out here! Shit like this is why I'm negative toward Marvel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Two quick related questions from someone who at this point only picks up a few TPBs a year and hence isn't totally up to date on all the current goings on. One: Does this mean that Hickman's Avengers run is over or coming to an end? I generally only go for these big story runs once they are done so I've been waiting for the day this one wraps up. Two: If so, what is Hickman up to next? I didn't see him listed on any of those reveals. I know he has a couple creator-owned series that have been running for a bit but beyond that I know nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Secret Wars is the grand finale to Hickman's Avengers titles, and after that he's dropping WFH entirely for at least the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unholy Dragon Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Secret Wars is the end of Hickman's Avengers run and the end of his current Marvel run. Creator owned only for the forseeavle future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 He intends to return at some point. He mentioned it being more a break than anything else so I kind of expect him back in a year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 This doesn't need to be purely Marvel based, but are their any particularly good books that look at the history of comics? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share Posted July 3, 2015 Sean Howe's history of Marvel from a couple years ago. The 10 Cent Plague about the Wertham stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unholy Dragon Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Gotta say I'm increasingly jazzed for Ultimates. Then again, it includes three of my favourite Marvel characters on a five person team so of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 People holding the Inhumans stuff against the comic writers/editors is pretty goofy to me. I assure you that Mark Pannacia, upon taking over X-Men, doesn't want to bury the characters. He wants to make the best comics he can. Because some corporate overlord is pissy doesn't mean he isn't going to try to make good comics. The X-Books over the last ten years or so have been really good for the most part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Gotta say I'm increasingly jazzed for Ultimates. Then again, it includes three of my favourite Marvel characters on a five person team so of course. I'm interested as I like everyone involved, but I'm not big on Black Panther and Galatctus on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unholy Dragon Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Galactus is the villain of the first arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Makes much more sense then. Hopefully Ewing handles him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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