SirSmUgly Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The Devils Advocate thing was a good concept, but I still don't know how it could be applied to a wrestler. What is he supposed to do in the ring then? I think the key is in the follow-up promos. He wrestles like a heel and then justifies it in promos by using the same logic we might use to reinforce that we are the actual heel here. Say he beats a face by pulling the tights and follows up with a promo where he says that everyone takes shortcuts, and that's not a bad thing, then points out how people often take shortcuts at work or home (by letting Type As do most of the work on a project, by stealing someone else's idea and presenting it to your boss, by breaking your promise to your kid to hang out when you need to do work by promising to do it later or give him a gift instead). By drawing an analogy between his actions and the actions of the viewer, I think it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The Devils Advocate thing was a good concept, but I still don't know how it could be applied to a wrestler. What is he supposed to do in the ring then? The same thing Bad News Barrett does, I guess. at least, in theory, Barrett could deliver bad news by beating someone in the ring. O'Haire.. it's like something in an e-Fed. You kinda have to ask "so, why the fuck are you wrestling as a devils advocate as a chosen means of income".. a manager who is a devils advocate could work a lot easier too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobholly138 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 So this is something I've been working on, hope it is alright to post it here: http://www.coloradoindies.com/ It is essentially a site designed to help Colorado Independent Wrestling get noticed since essentially most people don't realize it exists. I'm hoping I can find a few fanboys in the area to recreate the magic that our DVDVR playaz used to do with their road reports but alas, nobody has stepped up to the plate in that aspect I created something like this for Mississippi indies on FB. Seems to have helped a bit. Lots of the local feds end up uploading the entire shows to youtube within a week of the show. Just saw that the newest Pro Wrestling EGO/Pride show with Bret Dibiase is up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Cibernetico Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I always liked Sean. The guy became a body guard and at one time was Keyisha Cole's bodyguard. Sucks man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I stole my indy finish from Sean O'Haire (The Widowmaker). I also loved his WWE theme a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J33DkwGM3g Guy had an amazing, crazy look. Surprised WWE didn't capitalize on him. Yeah, he shoulda stayed away from Piper. Just didn't fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 That's some really shitty news. I really liked Sean O'Haire in the dying days of WCW and loved his devil's advocate character and vignettes. Felt Plaumbo, O'Haire, and Shane Helms were the biggest losers talent-wise from WCW dying- felt like each of them would have been big stars in WCW had continued- they were getting over very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 It is sad to hear about O'Haire, I saw it on Facebook this morning. The Devil's Advocate character was awesome but I'm thinking everyone forgot about how he majorly messed it up once they put him in front of the crowd because he couldn't stop laughing while trying to cut the promos so that is when they gave him Piper. If he could have gotten through the promos and developed he might have been good but I think that is essentially the point they gave up on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red is Dead Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Holy crap - drake younger is only 30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Holy crap - drake younger is only 30? He's got some rough mileage on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 That's some really shitty news. I really liked Sean O'Haire in the dying days of WCW and loved his devil's advocate character and vignettes. Felt Plaumbo, O'Haire, and Shane Helms were the biggest losers talent-wise from WCW dying- felt like each of them would have been big stars in WCW had continued- they were getting over very well. Didn't they forget to shake hands with people or not say hi to Droz backstage? I seem to recall them getting shit for something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Holy crap - drake younger is only 30? That's 64 in indy wrestling years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Too bad we live in an era where they don't bother coming up with elaborate ways to explain guys leaving for long periods. The whodunnit angle with Steve Austin was interesting. Was it? Rikishi being the guy? And unstoppable badass Stone Cold Steve Austin being out for nearly a year after being clipped by a car, in the same time period HHH had a much, much more serious accident with a car and was back the next night? The Devils Advocate thing was a good concept, but I still don't know how it could be applied to a wrestler. What is he supposed to do in the ring then? It doesn't even have to be as complicated as the explanations of others here - he just uses all that devil's advocate stuff to get inside the head of his opponents and win matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Re: O'Haire: One of the things that hurt him was taking away the Seanton Bomb...it stood out that a guy of his size could pull off that move. Unfortunately, when they had a hundred guys under contract during the Invasion era, they had to jump through hoops to prevent finisher overlap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Jerry Lawler @JerryLawler 2h 2 years ago today in Montreal I was bodyslammed by the Grim Reaper, but I kicked out! C.M. Punk once asked me "who'd I ever beat?" Death!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Re: O'Haire: One of the things that hurt him was taking away the Seanton Bomb...it stood out that a guy of his size could pull off that move. Unfortunately, when they had a hundred guys under contract during the Invasion era, they had to jump through hoops to prevent finisher overlap. In WWEs defense, the Seanton was a blatant copy of a WWE finisher. The bigger what if is what happens to the thrillers if WCW doesn't go under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelemania Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The Seanton Bomb also sucked. Go back & watch it, he never connects with it. It's like he just jumps over everyone & flips. No impact at all. It's not visually impressive if it is business-exposing, no? Watch the WCW Greed 2001 PPV between Totally Buff & The Natural Born Thrillers. It's like a 45 second squash with 2x Seanton & neither connects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Top 5 favorite looks of Meng/Haku: 1. Dragon/Horse mask Meng from 1995 2. Giant fro Meng with big baggy gold pants from the late 90s 3. Giant fro mullet Haku with no shoes on (late 80's/early 90's WWF) 4. Faces of Fear Meng 5. Polo shirt WWE Where are the Now Car Salesman Meng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 what was the crack with him being brought in as Rikishi's tag partner in the late 90s? I saw him for a show and then he disappeared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 WCW put their hardcore belt on him while he was on a per-apperence deal, WWF signed him, possibly to fuck with WCW, put him in a team with Rikishi, they were awesome and looked to be heading into a feud with Taker/Kane and then one of them got hurt and the Invasion happened and Meng wasn't seen on TV again. This happened in 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scraylo187 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 You guys would give the shittiest eulogies. "I think we're all gonna miss Sean. Except for his shitty finisher. Seriously it was terrible. And I hope he remembers to shake hands with St. Peter at the gates, because otherwise he's gonna be a heat magnet." 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelemania Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Better hope it's St. Peter, not Steve Austin, to tell him to tighten that shit up then Stun his ass to Hell with Eddie~! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 You guys would give the shittiest eulogies. "I think we're all gonna miss Sean. Except for his shitty finisher. Seriously it was terrible. And I hope he remembers to shake hands with St. Peter at the gates, because otherwise he's gonna be a heat magnet." I've learned that when someone dies, you're better off not reading past the first few remarks on their death thread, because someone is always an asshole by page two. And speaking of death, WTF? Lawler's heart attack was TWO YEARS AGO?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Lawler versus his Heart in a rematch...#nightofchampions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spontaneous Posted September 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2014 Lawler has always had issues with the Harts, the feud will never end 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scraylo187 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Lawler has always had issues with the Harts, the feud will never end Lock the thread, we're not topping this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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