Eoae Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I've really enjoyed Josh Williamson's Flash run, but I don't know how I feel about Spoiler Zoom being able to screw with the Flash family by "Inception-ing" them. The new issue has Zoom revealing that he's spent the past few years running around and planting dumb ideas in the speedsters' heads by talking to them super-fast (basically, he now has the ability to plat subliminal messages in people's minds). It was Zoom that caused Jay's mid-life crisis, that caused Barry and Wally and the other speedsters to fall out, that caused Bart to run away. It was also Zoom that gave Batman and Barry the idea to keep the Watchman button investigation a secret. And, it was Zoom that gave Wally the idea to panic and cover-up what had happened in Heroes in Crisis. One the one hand, it's a good way to clean up some awful character development decisions. On the other hand, it makes Zoom out to be too much of a boogeyman. He didn't really need the extra push to give his conflict with Barry pathos. And, it's a convenient deus ex machina way to redeem a couple characters (Wally). I'm still wondering if this way planned from the beginning or if Williamson and editorial came up with it to hand wave away decisions like Hero in Crisis that tanked badly. Beyond that, I feel like it's a fairly wonky idea that Zoom can run around and talk to multiple speedsters on multiple occasions without Flash, Jay, Bart, etc. realizing he was there. I've always assumed the speedsters had the ability to process sensory data at super speed too. Not sure the comics have ever explained it like that, but the characters wouldn't be able to run at super speed, much less fight each other, if they couldn't. Otherwise, they'd plow through every cat, dog, car, person, and beach ball that got in their path. First misstep in a very good run, though. Although, it's probably time to take Zoom off the canvas for awhile. Williamson has used him a lot. Also this week Spoiler Dick Grayson finally got his memory back. I was fine with them trying the storyline - I liked Nick Spencer's Cap run, after all - but the execution was never there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2020/09/10/batmancatwoman-begins New details for Batman/Catwoman by Tom King and Clay Mann. 12 issues and a special. #1 this December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 More comic news from the Fandome tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) I am actually very much on board with "Andy Lanning and Ron Marz write the entire DC line." Edited September 11, 2020 by Matt D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Some stuff of note from released Dec 2020 Solicitations: Aquaman back in the JL Teen Titans endless winter special has Donna and Beast Boy appearing as members. Superboy Prime face turn...? Mark Waid back with DC. Batman beyond is finished, final issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Brian Michael Bendis will be wrapping up his run on both Superman and Action Comics this December according to the latest DC Comics solicitations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Doesn't seem there will be a relaunch or further new books. Creative teams will change though. Have to wait until next year to see. Batman Who Laughs, Kull, Robin King, and so on will be surviving the event post Death Metal. The new DC universe will probably be filling in more pre flashpoint history, and other previous eras. Some form of multiverse will exist, probably all of them. Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Bleedingcool says Cass will be Batgirl for the first time in universe . Spoiler will be wearing the Bat logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 So does this mean Barbara is going back to being crippled? Kind of weird that Cass will get the roll with no relationship to Barbara in this universe unless they plan to bring back her pre-flashpoint history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 After a decade, they never did manage to make any compelling argument for why they regressed Babs to such a less interesting role, so I hope Oracle is back to her permanent state. I'd love to see Steph written by BQM again, regardless of what costume she is wearing. Still one of my all-time favorite books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I prefer Barbara Gordon as Oracle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I thought they meant DC will be carrying on mostly the Nu52/Pre Death Metal mishmash Batman history for this new universe with Cass becoming Batgirl soon post Death Metal. In DC news: Jim Lee said "There won't be a project called '5G', or a big reboot, or whatever," Lee says. "We really want to focus on individual titles, and organically build up individual characters over the course of the next year." Anyway: most of 5G just only exists in few parts now like DC Generations Shattered or the new black Batman getting his own mini series or Wonder Woman's career starting from the Golden Age. Debooting or adding some history stuff back in doesn't really count as rebooting. And the new universe concept is probably also similar to how Marvel created a new universe post Secret Wars with very similar history. Seems there will be no big relaunch with all the numbers restarting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 The generations fractured story in the latest Detective Comics issue leads into Generations Future Slate. Seems this new generational splintered timeline is separate from the post Death Metal DCU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Dc Future State event for Jan and Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 If I thought DC Online would have the stuff I wanted*, I'd prob subscribe, but I wouldn't expect it. * war, western, funny, comedian books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 Happy Batman Day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Natural Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) Batman: Dark Victory #0-13 (November 1999-December 2000) written by Jeph Loeb and drawn by Tim Sale. There’s a killer who has hanged police officers known as the Hangman. This was one of the few big Batman books I’d not read before and considering I read Batman: The Long Halloween a long time ago, I have it second only to Batman: Year One. This was a really good book for returning to the early years of Batman’s crusade against crime while retelling how Dick Grayson becomes Robin. There’s a great sequence with Grayson and Alfred in Master Wayne’s parents’ bedroom and a flashback to young Bruce there with Alfred showing the similarities between then, murder of parents and what’s said. I also like how the Long Halloween has affected characters, The Long Halloween is definitely the better book though. Edited September 22, 2020 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 DC spoilers from several books Speed Metal: Spoiler Wally outraced the Darkest Knight and his Black Flashes and got the Mobius Chair back, and wore red briefly again. And Wally and most of the flash family reunites and patch up things. Batgirl: Spoiler James Gordon Jr dies The Flash Spoiler Thawne got resetted, so he is good and normal now and back in the future. Nobody in the future knows Professor Zoom's real I.D. anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 It's nice that Williamson sort of finally moved past the damage Johns did in making Barry a tragic figure instead of the one guy who just does the right thing because it's the right thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Dark Victory is an okay story, but it's worth every penny for Tim Sale's art. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Cass and Steph new looks Spoiler Ivys new gimmick Spoiler Maybe new look for Vixen Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Do we really need that much definition to the ass of her costume? Is it supposed to be painted on or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 Junk in the trunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoae Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Thought the wrap-up to Williamson's Flash run was really good, though the number of paradoxes created by the resolution made my heard hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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