Big Fresh Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Since WWE made big deals about signing KENTA and Devitt does that mean their gonna let them go by their names in WWE or are they still gonna give them dumb WWE-ized names? I know they like to own guys names for marketing reasons but when you're really the only game in town does it really matter if you don't own all the wrestlers names? Like someone said what's the point of changing Monty Brown's name to Marcus Cor Von other than to own Marcus Cor Von but still talk about what he really did in the NFL? I would guess Triple H wants them to keep their names and Vincr wants to change them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 [Vince]I just wanted to take a moment to introduce everyone here in the locker room to our newest superstars... THE YELLOW ASSASSIN! and SCRAWNY O'SHEA!!!! I think they're gonna be big boffo, boys![/Vince] 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Since his character will probably be some sort of Irish stereotype, they could do worse than just letting him work as "Fergal Devitt." Though I suppose they wouldn't do that since you can't copyright real names. He worked under "Fergal" in the California indys before he went to Japan. Always thought that was a better name to go by. Never cared for "Prince". ATNEK the Asian Assassin sounds about right; I'm skeptical they'll know what to do with a Japanese wrestler who can't be pushed as a "feared foreign monster" type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Since WWE made big deals about signing KENTA and Devitt does that mean their gonna let them go by their names in WWE or are they still gonna give them dumb WWE-ized names? Define "made big deals" about their signings? There were articles on WWE.com which I'm sure hundreds of people have read, but they haven't said a thing on TV about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I'm skeptical they'll know what to do with a Japanese wrestler who can't be pushed as a "feared foreign monster" type. They did a good job with Yoshi Tatsu for about 5 minutes.... Tajiri had more good than bad during his run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 And they tried hard with Kenzo Suzuki before they figured out he had no talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I actually liked Kenzo's insincere I-love-America character. But boy golly did he suck in the ring. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 He was only pretty much passable in the ring but endlessly entertaining during his time in Mexico, where he appeared to be coked out of his fucking mind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 It would seem like WWE would keep KENTA's name, simply because it fills all of their criteria. It's just one word and it's easy to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Since his character will probably be some sort of Irish stereotype, they could do worse than just letting him work as "Fergal Devitt." Though I suppose they wouldn't do that since you can't copyright real names. He worked under "Fergal" in the California indys before he went to Japan. Always thought that was a better name to go by. Never cared for "Prince". I figured they changed it from Fergal to Prince simply because Fergal was too hard to say with a Japanese accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 And they tried hard with Kenzo Suzuki before they figured out he had no talent. Were they not going to name him Hirohito originally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre013 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 In response to an earlier comment...why does Triple H get a pass for some of his shitty decisions while Vince takes the heat? Signing these guys to the WWE doesn't seem that difficult (look on Internet, see that Kenta and Steen have popularity, offer them more money to come to number one company). Getting them over, like he failed to do with pet projects like Brodus or Sin Cara, seems to be the issue and that's his fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Sin Cara didn't get over because of Sin Cara. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mco543 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Brodus debuted as a mid-card fun babyface and got over, not every guy who shows up is supposed to be groomed for the main event. The original Sin Cara didn't work out for a great number of reasons, just about all of which can be solely blamed on Sin Cara. He was a disaster from his debut on TV and steadily got worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 And they tried hard with Kenzo Suzuki before they figured out he had no talent. Were they not going to name him Hirohito originally? *sigh* Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre013 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Brodus debuted as a mid-card fun babyface and got over, not every guy who shows up is supposed to be groomed for the main event. The original Sin Cara didn't work out for a great number of reasons, just about all of which can be solely blamed on Sin Cara. He was a disaster from his debut on TV and steadily got worse. Actually, Brodus was repackaged as a dancing fool by Hunter, as well as the blue lighting and horrendous trampoline into the ring for Sin Cara. He pushed them, they were his guys, they failed. Ok, someone who actually knows the history and facts, why have the new fans sided with Hunter and dismiss Vince (with his years of success) as the crazy old codger? It seems curious to me as I don't see it. The NXT guys who have gotten over had success in the indies...where are the stars developed there? Adam Rose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 IIRC, they did at least one promo for "Hirohito". I kinda remember a promo where Suzuki wasn't shown, or was in shadow. I think maybe you only saw a close-up of his eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 They should give Devitt a Fergie gimmick. I bet Vince just learned about the Black Eyed Peas a month or two ago. "So I hear you like to play dress up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 They should give Devitt a Fergie gimmick. I bet Vince just learned about the Black Eyed Peas a month or two ago. "So I hear you like to play dress up." Would coming out with a wet crotch be PG? Of course, Vince did it first anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Brodus debuted as a mid-card fun babyface and got over, not every guy who shows up is supposed to be groomed for the main event. The original Sin Cara didn't work out for a great number of reasons, just about all of which can be solely blamed on Sin Cara. He was a disaster from his debut on TV and steadily got worse. Actually, Brodus was repackaged as a dancing fool by Hunter, as well as the blue lighting and horrendous trampoline into the ring for Sin Cara. He pushed them, they were his guys, they failed. Ok, someone who actually knows the history and facts, why have the new fans sided with Hunter and dismiss Vince (with his years of success) as the crazy old codger? It seems curious to me as I don't see it. The NXT guys who have gotten over had success in the indies...where are the stars developed there? Adam Rose? Given the rather notable lack of actual talent Brodus had, the Funkasaurus character had a pretty decent run for awhile, certainly better than if he'd just gone out as fat guy monster heel #48. I'm not sure he can be called a failure on HHH's part. And, since it passed you by the first time, 99% of what was wrong with Sin Cara was not the gimmick. There's plenty of shit Hunter gets wrong, but Brodus and Sin Cara aren't them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 In response to an earlier comment...why does Triple H get a pass for some of his shitty decisions while Vince takes the heat? Signing these guys to the WWE doesn't seem that difficult (look on Internet, see that Kenta and Steen have popularity, offer them more money to come to number one company). Getting them over, like he failed to do with pet projects like Brodus or Sin Cara, seems to be the issue and that's his fail. A big instance for it is armchair booking, IMO: Most transactions in sports or stupid booking decisions get maligned with it, and there's usually that twinge of "I wouldn't have done that, so it must suck". With Vince's shitty decisions, they're things only Vince or Dunn would have- so there's a scapegoat and knowing that "well, if I had Vince's power, I'd do something different and it'd be a new boom period." HHH, though- when he's failing with people like Sin Cara, Tensai, or Kharma- on the one hand, they're failures- but fans who play EWR inherently kind of know if they had HHH's position, they'd have probably done the same thing and hired Mistico/Bernard/Kong just like HHH. Put it together, it's a lot easier to forgive knowing that on paper, HHH made the right decisions- they just didn't turn out right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Maybe it's because HHH is actually in full control of NXT and NXT is fucking awesome while RAW is very hit or miss? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 If I had the book, the company would be dead in a month. But what a glorious month it would be... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 NXT is a lot easier to book than Raw though. You are, for the most part, just booking weekly TV shows or now I guess they are booking to the Live Specials but those only happen like 4-6 times a year. Not every 3-4 weeks. And the audience is far easier to please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 If I had the book, the company would be dead in a month. But what a glorious month it would be... Who would you get to play the wrestling mummy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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