Casey Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) The Meltzer blurb was here that should have been edited when replying... especially for a one line post. tl;dr - Jeff Jarrett is pro wrestling's only hope Edited July 31, 2014 by RIPPA Since people don't like to read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbie Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I got half a paragraph in, strolled down a little and said tl;dr. Yay for smart phones? Edit: Even if full version mode, ain't no body got time to read all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 He was the farm animal. if I didn't know any better i'd say you were calling Vince Russo a pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 It's actually pretty fuckin' interesting if you read the whole thing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Reading that, and not really caring about TNA, what I see in there is the demographic/revenue reasons for Spike dumping TNA are the same as the reasons that WWE really has two choices in its future: 1) Make this network work and have some kind of shot at continuing to grow by self-distributing and somehow extracting $$$$ from your audience based on their numbers rather than their image among advertisers 2) stay on t.v. and essentially decide that what you are from 2003-2012 is what you're going to be forever. That 2nd option, though, 0% growth, isn't really something you can go to stockholders with...and not something Vince McMahon's mind can accept. So as tenuous as the network is, some form of self-carriage is essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 So does Serg. Far be it from me to comment on someone else's marriage, but if your wife had literally sacrificed her entire business, credibility and tens of millions of dollars to keep this one (talentless) guy around time after time, wouldn't the alarm bells start going off or something? At some point you'd be like "What the hell is going on with you and this guy? Get rid of him." Serg needs to man up. I know that's not easy since his name is 'Serg' but still. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I think that right now, they're fine with staying on TV. While the hope is that The Network eventually becomes successful enough that it allows WWE to become totally self-sufficient, I don't think they believe that TV rights fees+Network Success have to be exclusive things. I would imagine that in a dream world, they continue to make ample money off their rights fees and The Network goes on to become a revenue source which eclipses PPV revenue and to a lesser extent, home video sales and gives them a last resort option in case the rights fees dry up as opposed to staying the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Reading that, and not really caring about TNA, what I see in there is the demographic/revenue reasons for Spike dumping TNA are the same as the reasons that WWE really has two choices in its future: 1) Make this network work and have some kind of shot at continuing to grow by self-distributing and somehow extracting $$$$ from your audience based on their numbers rather than their image among advertisers 2) stay on t.v. and essentially decide that what you are from 2003-2012 is what you're going to be forever. That 2nd option, though, 0% growth, isn't really something you can go to stockholders with...and not something Vince McMahon's mind can accept. So as tenuous as the network is, some form of self-carriage is essential. 3) Start another boom period and reap short-term growth leading to another round of serious spending on pro wrestling from the networks, which doesn't solve the problem in the long term, but which buys you some time and the ability to point to short-term explosive quarterly growth at each stockholders' meeting. I don't know how likely that third one is based on how WWE tends to have hot-and-cold booking for most of its potential breakout stars. Really, this is why they can't really give up on the Network. If advertisers haven't gotten over their stereotyped view of WWE viewers at this point, they are never going to get over it. The Network is the only way they can create growth other than lucking into the next Stone Cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EN090 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Reading that, and not really caring about TNA, what I see in there is the demographic/revenue reasons for Spike dumping TNA are the same as the reasons that WWE really has two choices in its future: 1) Make this network work and have some kind of shot at continuing to grow by self-distributing and somehow extracting $$$$ from your audience based on their numbers rather than their image among advertisers 2) stay on t.v. and essentially decide that what you are from 2003-2012 is what you're going to be forever. That 2nd option, though, 0% growth, isn't really something you can go to stockholders with...and not something Vince McMahon's mind can accept. So as tenuous as the network is, some form of self-carriage is essential. 3) Start another boom period and reap short-term growth leading to another round of serious spending on pro wrestling from the networks, which doesn't solve the problem in the long term, but which buys you some time and the ability to point to short-term explosive quarterly growth at each stockholders' meeting. I don't know how likely that third one is based on how WWE tends to have hot-and-cold booking for most of its potential breakout stars. Really, this is why they can't really give up on the Network. If advertisers haven't gotten over their stereotyped view of WWE viewers at this point, they are never going to get over it. The Network is the only way they can create growth other than lucking into the next Stone Cold. Yeah, option 3 ain't happening. There's no catalyst for a boom period like there was in the 80's (WWE going national, cable TV expansion) or 90's (Monday Night Wars). I don't think lucking into another Stone Cold would even do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 He was the farm animal. if I didn't know any better i'd say you were calling Vince Russo a pig. Pigs are cute, maybe a mule or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Mules are loyal. right? Why do I assume this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Help us Jeff Jarrett.... you're our only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerjeRUN Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Why TNA continued to use Russo in creative when Spike made it clear they wanted no involvement with him is a question that nobody has come close to being able to answer. "He has compromising pictures of Serg with barnyard animals" was obviously too embarrassing to admit over an email. Or he has a polaroid of Dixie Carter sucking off a lamb. I have heard this from several reliable sources actually. She tried to suck off a horse once although it went wrong. That's how she got the lazy eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 You guys are sullying the good name of honestly blackmailed people. No incriminating pictures here. Russo is just a slimy kiss ass and Dixie is a very vain, very stupid person. The greatest money mark of our age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I don't know about. I mean it's not her money. I still would go with the kid who won the lottery and then funded Wrestlelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I don't know about. I mean it's not her money. I still would go with the kid who won the lottery and then funded Wrestlelicious Hey, dude did what he wanted with his money. At least he got lots of girls around. What's TNA got? Knux? Also, he probably lost less on Wrestleicious than TNA has lost in like, the last couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Does greatest here mean good or bad? The best money mark of modern times is either Rick Rubin or those Japanese optometrists that owned AJW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hours earlier, Taz had written, “I unfollowed Russo earlier. He’s annoying and all about his brand. #Go Away.” Talk about pot calling the kettel black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I don't know about. I mean it's not her money. I still would go with the kid who won the lottery and then funded Wrestlelicious I would say that does make her the greatest money mark since it's not her money.Or does that make her the tip of a pyramid scheme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Did Dixie get an action figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mco543 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yes. I believe it was a ShopTNA exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerjeRUN Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Did Dixie get an action figure? Hilariously yes. I can't imagine the sorry sad state of the lonely soul who bought it, if any did. The figure is bull shit. I saw a picture of it, the figure has 20/20 vision. What a crock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hours earlier, Taz had written, “I unfollowed Russo earlier. He’s annoying and all about his brand. #Go Away.” Talk about pot calling the kettel black. I used to have a friend who would often ask me if Taz was black. Like I fuckin' knew! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hours earlier, Taz had written, “I unfollowed Russo earlier. He’s annoying and all about his brand. #Go Away.” Talk about pot calling the kettel black. I used to have a friend who would often ask me if Taz was black. Like I fuckin' knew! For the record....Taz is half black, half orange. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 By the way, I asked David McLane a while back about Vince Russo "meeting with him" - it was a phone call and it never got further than "I have an idea". He ALSO tried it AGAIN when WOW was threatening to start back up last year, with the same response. Even McLane wants nothing to do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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