Go2Sleep Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I was just thinking about how great a feminist character would be in the Divas division. She could do a "shoot" on how every diva is f'''king top guys to get 2 minutes of tv. She needs to be attractive... Though unintentional I'm sure, this segment of your post reveals some critical flaws with your idea. "Needs to be attractive" is bad enough, but a "feminist" character whose primary motivation is slut-shaming? Uh... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truename Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I was just thinking about how great a feminist character would be in the Divas division. She could do a "shoot" on how every diva is f'''king top guys to get 2 minutes of tv. She needs to be attractive... Though unintentional I'm sure, this segment of your post reveals some critical flaws with your idea. "Needs to be attractive" is bad enough, but a "feminist" character whose primary motivation is slut-shaming? Uh... The character needs to be attractive because otherwise it would turn into gimmicky parody of a feminist. You wouldn't give Kane the role of a cool anti-system rebel. And the issue isn't slut-shaming: the wrestlers kiss the ass of Vince and the bookers to get pushed, the divas sleep with them. There's a subtle difference between this and slut-shaming I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I could've won so much money placing a bet on "casting against stereotype" appearing in your follow up post. Why do you assume someone like Kharma couldn't pull the gimmick off as you described (not that I'd want her to have to try)? Someone who could win fans over with her ability and really send the message that there's more to being a diva than looking like a model? the wrestlers kiss the ass of Vince and the bookers to get pushed, the divas sleep with them. There's a subtle difference between this and slut-shaming I think. One that reveals even more troubling underlying assumptions. Not that it would be too much better, but why wouldn't a feminist character suggest that the male-dominated power structure encourages/forces divas to sleep with them by blackmailing them with tv time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rows Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I was just thinking about how great a feminist character would be in the Divas division. She could do a "shoot" on how every diva is f'''king top guys to get 2 minutes of tv. She needs to be attractive, but never wrestle with panties or anything sexy, although knowing WWE they 'd get over the top. She needs to be right about the morals, like Punk, to work. She could be booked as a heel at first, but eventually the crowd would love her and WWE could do their PC ads about how a great influence she is on young girls. Sounds kinda awful. Then again I'm just turned off by the "Whine about backstage politics" stuff in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I could've won so much money placing a bet on "casting against stereotype" appearing in your follow up post. Why do you assume someone like Kharma couldn't pull the gimmick off as you described (not that I'd want her to have to try)? Someone who could win fans over with her ability and really send the message that there's more to being a diva than looking like a model? Of course you're kind of revealing your own prejudices by assuming Kharma can't be considered attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overly Critical Man Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I remember when they used to virgin shame Molly Holly for calling out divas for being sluts and then King kept calling her fat. The character wouldn't work as Sheamus would end up bullying her or something to the cheers of the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 If I had a child would I want them sleeping with their superior to receive a promotion? No. Does that mean the boss isn't at fault also? No. I think that covers everything. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I could've won so much money placing a bet on "casting against stereotype" appearing in your follow up post. Why do you assume someone like Kharma couldn't pull the gimmick off as you described (not that I'd want her to have to try)? Someone who could win fans over with her ability and really send the message that there's more to being a diva than looking like a model? Of course you're kind of revealing your own prejudices by assuming Kharma can't be considered attractive. That's why I said "looking like a model" instead of "being hot" or something like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 This is going ugly in a fast direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEmanWITHnoNAME Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 This is going ugly in a fast direction. I think you mean "this is going in an ugly direction fast". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzombie1988 Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 I reviewed episode 2 of Total Divas here(pics and gifs to come ASAP):http://prowresblog.blogspot.com/2013/08/wwe-total-divas-episode-2-review.htmlOverall thoughts: I enjoyed this one actually. Sandra was awesome and it was fun to see Eva Marie get owned on national television. The tour of Cena's and DB's houses were cool too. Some shots from the show: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strummer Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I thought it was a real boring episode. Don't know if the average E! viewer is going to get hooked on this show. And Bryan really doesn't own a TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rows Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The Cena/Bryan/Bellas stuff was the best part. Summerslam opponents visiting each others houses. Daniel Bryan showing E! how he lives. I never thought I'd see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strummer Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Eva Marie's engagement will totally be smooth sailing! Can't see anything wrong there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I feel like its a bad idea showing a good guy living in a mansion and flying on jets. You assume they are super rich, but I feel it is best not to show it. It creates a disconnect with the audience. At least Austin had a militia hunting compound. That time they visited in 97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I thought it was a real boring episode. I didn't watch, so I assume this means either a minimal amount of Daniel Bryan or a lack of T&A footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mco543 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I feel like its a bad idea showing a good guy living in a mansion and flying on jets. You assume they are super rich, but I feel it is best not to show it. It creates a disconnect with the audience. At least Austin had a militia hunting compound. That time they visited in 97. I dunno I grew up thinking every guy who wrestled on TV was rich with Million Dollar Man obviously being the wealthiest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 No the camera is usually fixated on all the lady parts so no issue there. I didn't love this episode but I feel like there's always going to be something I want to see. This week it was the tour of Daniel Bryan's house. Cool stuff. I didn't care for the Cena stuff... his house was great but I've seen plenty of MTV Crib episodes, they are all the same. The Eva Marie stuff appeared to be mostly work but I still liked the part with Steph scolding her. There were real tears so maybe there is some legit heat? I don't believe they were acting tears. Naomi is EXTREMLY likable. I like the Uso she's dating as well. He seems cool as hell. Likability Ranking (from most likable to least) 1. Natalya 2. Naomi 3. JoJo 4. Brie 5. Eva 6. Cameron 7. Nikki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overly Critical Man Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 John Cena living in a cool mansion with a slip n slide and Daniel Bryan living in a unibomber shack is exactly how I pictured their homes. I hope we get to see Brock Lesnar's cabin in the middle of nowhere someday. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I feel like its a bad idea showing a good guy living in a mansion and flying on jets. You assume they are super rich, but I feel it is best not to show it. It creates a disconnect with the audience. At least Austin had a militia hunting compound. That time they visited in 97. I dunno I grew up thinking every guy who wrestled on TV was rich with Million Dollar Man obviously being the wealthiest. I did too. I just think its better not to show it. In the case of your top face who wrestles in jean shorts and a tee shirt. I feel like it makes him less relateable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Dusty Rhodes was driving a convertible Benz when the Horseman rolled him in the parking lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I feel like its a bad idea showing a good guy living in a mansion and flying on jets. You assume they are super rich, but I feel it is best not to show it. It creates a disconnect with the audience. At least Austin had a militia hunting compound. That time they visited in 97. I dunno I grew up thinking every guy who wrestled on TV was rich with Million Dollar Man obviously being the wealthiest. I did too. I just think its better not to show it. In the case of your top face who wrestles in jean shorts and a tee shirt. I feel like it makes him less relateable. Unless it's supposed to be foreshadowing Cena as the corporate champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Dusty Rhodes was driving a convertible Benz when the Horseman rolled him in the parking lot. Well it was the mid 80's. He was living the American Dream. But yeah this episode tonight was a complete 180 from last week's surprisingly good debut episode. It was way too Eva Maria heavy. She must really be the new chosen one because in consecutive weeks she's defied a VP and made the same VP look like an idiot when she said "hey yeah, I can dance". The funniest part of the show was them bluring out Naomi's toe action. Haven't they worn those green outfits on tv? Maybe everything is really blurring all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 This is going ugly in a fast direction.I think you mean "this is going in an ugly direction fast".You never heard that joke?Maybe I made it up. But it's funny to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I'm sorry... Did she say she was dating that guy 2 months? Shit, now I'm getting into the reality show gossip and shit. FUCK. THIS. SHOW. Can't wait until next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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