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Did Tugboat actually turn on Hogan and wrestle him as Typhoon? I can't remember what caused the transformation between the two

He attacked Hogan during a SNME battle royal, then during Superstars, turned on the Bushwackers in a six man against Quake and the Nasties.  Next week, he was Typhoon and tagging with Quake.

 

 

Tugboat went after Hogan in the 91 Rumble too.  Hogan-Typhoon had one singles match on a Coliseum tape where Hogan squashed him in about five minutes.

 

 

It looked like they were building towards some kind of Disasters vs Andre/Jake match, but they decided Andre couldn't go and obv Jake went in a different direction.

 

Worth pointing out that Nasties didn't turn until much later; the whole idea of them somehow protecting them was never followed through as Quake/Typhoon could have interfered in the title defence against LOD because it was No DQ, but didn't.

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Did Tugboat actually turn on Hogan and wrestle him as Typhoon? I can't remember what caused the transformation between the two

He attacked Hogan during a SNME battle royal, then during Superstars, turned on the Bushwackers in a six man against Quake and the Nasties. Next week, he was Typhoon and tagging with Quake.

Didn't Typhoon explain his turn along the lines of "Hogan never thanked me for telling kids to send him cards while he was out?"

To be fair to Typhoon, most people that turned on Hogan before his Hollywood run's reasoning was "Hogan was an asshole to me"

Hogan being an asshole is enough reason to turn on him.

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Has Rey ever been a heel? I can't remember if the Filthy Animals were supposed to heels at one point, or if they were just obnoxious faces the entire time.

Heels dont steal ric flairs watch and bury him in the desert.

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Ok, that brought another question to mind:

We know that at some point, Sting, Warrior, and Steamboat all worked heel, for ever how short.

Has there been anyone that worked in the top Territories/Classic Big 3/Modern Big 2 that only ever worked heel. No face run for them, just straight heel for their entire career?

Bundy?
Face in GCW after leaving the Legion of Doom.

That's right, he was with Ellering. Good call.

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Ok, that brought another question to mind:

 

We know that at some point, Sting, Warrior, and Steamboat all worked heel, for ever how short.  Has there been anyone that worked in the top Territories/Classic Big 3/Modern Big 2 that only ever worked heel.  No face run for them, just straight heel for their entire career?

 

Barbarian? One Man Gang/Akeem?

 

Powers of Pain were faces when they came to WWE, and Barb was a face again later as half of the New Headshrinkers.

 

"Some old guy" is the answer, but qualifying it to people that worked the Big 3 makes it more challenging.

 

And do we know that Steamboat worked heel? Because I was under the impression that he was the answer to the opposite question.

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Was Rude ever a babyface?

 

I don't think so, unless you count the short time he spent in ECW harassing Shane Douglas.

 

 

Rick Rude was a face briefly in Memphis feuding with Jimmy Hart.  And from what little I've seen, he was pretty bad at it.

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To my list of heel turns on Hogan, I forgot Jimmy Hart and Lex Luger in 1995.  Though since Hogan was an asshole to Lex Luger when he saved him from the Dungeon of Doom on the first Nitro, I don't blame Lex.

 

Luger never really did a full heel turn. Jimmy Hart did, but a big part of that whole storyline was that Luger wanted Jimmy Hart's representation, but he actually fought The Giant for the gold and tagged with Sting, who chose to trust him.

 

Before that story played out, the nWo showed up and the Hogan turn shifted the focus of the main event. I often wonder how things would have ended assuming no nWo storyline because that Luger-Sting-Hogan-Savage-Flair five-way feud might be one of my favorite main event storylines ever. When those early Nitros are put back up on WWEN, people who don't remember this thing are going to really really enjoy it. 

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Rick Rude started as a baby (Rick Rood) and Jimmy Hart turned him in Mempho. Rude/Fernandez were heels.

One Man Gang was a baby as Crusher Bloomfield in ICW and as Panama Gang (I believe) when Kevin Sullivan threw him out of his coven. He battled them (I saw a Gang v. Superstar Billy Graham match in CWF circa '84, I think) before going to Mid-South/UWF. It's easier to find an all-babyface worker than an all-heel one. Most heels get a face run when they get betrayed and/or at the end of their career. I would have to say there must be a foreign/monster heel who stayed heel. Malenko? Saito? Fuji? Ox Baker?

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I'm pretty sure Bad News worked exclusively heel in Stampede. Obviously he did in WWF. His UWFI stuff was worked shoot so there was no heel/face dynamic. The only time I can think of where he might have worked face is his early Japanese stuff.

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The way I remember the Tugboat-to-Typhoon turn, Tugboat attacked the Bushwhackers on WWF Superstars when he was teaming with them in a 6-man match against Earthquake and the Nasty Boys.  The following Monday on Prime Time Wrestling (which was into its studio audience phase at the time), Sean Mooney repeatedly introduced Tugboat (complete with entrance music) to get his side of the story, but Tugboat never appeared.  Finally, Jimmy Hart and Earthquake arrived, Jimmy called out for "Typhoon," and he appeared in his new heel Typhoon attire.

 

At the very end of their last segment, Mooney made mention of Hogan and Typhoon started ranting about how he was always there for Hogan, but Hogan was never there for him.  Anyway, the whole deal was that Jimmy Hart wanted a second tag team to protect the Nasty Boys' run as tag champions (I think), but the Nasties turned face and the Natural Disasters were Jimmy's new top team.  Then the Disasters broke away and turned face themselves at some point.  All I really remember with certainty is that Earthquake and Typhoon's Hasbro figures were sturdy, durable, and virtually unstoppable in my land of wrestling figures.

 

 

The Disasters turned because Jimmy snuck Money Inc. into their spot in a tag title match, and they won the belts.

 

 

Exact same story for both turns by the Disasters and the Nasties.  Hart gave the Disasters a title shot that was supposed to belong to the Nasties, and then did the same to the Disasters for Money Inc, iirc. 

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