ebbie Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 It honestly holds no value for WWE outside of killing a competitor. He doesn't want to sign any of the talent (as evidenced by not signing Styles) and the video library can't be worth much. Am I wrong in my thinking here? Is TNA really a competitor? I mean, they target different audiences, do way lower numbers, and have a different booking style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Would there be any value to the argument that WWE could again say they have EVERY Wresting PPV ever produced on the network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 While his Terry Funk is abominable that Dusty is world class. "Ah is a agent for da FBI babeh!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I'm pumped for the TNA wrestlers to invade Full Sail University and launch a NXT/TNA feud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 While his Terry Funk is abominable that Dusty is world class. Ambrose might be the only person in the wrestling industry who can't do a decent Terry Funk impression. They need to get someone down to the Performance Center to teach those NXT rookies how to do one STAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Would there be any value to the argument that WWE could again say they have EVERY Wresting PPV ever produced on the network They would need the ROH library and the short-lived WWA library to complete that collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Heroes of Wrestling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Heroes of Wrestling... Didn't Abrams' UWF have a PPV or two as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn411 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 GFW would have first rights to TNA since Jarrett stills own a part of the company. And if WWE thought about buying the rights, they would indirectly be funding GFW. Interesting scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEN! Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 One of these big news stories is probably MMA related. A Rousey/Carano fight getting signed would be huge news to someone like Meltzer. Then TNA's TV situation and WWE's shitty Network numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 The only possible reason to buy the TNA library is to set it on fire. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre013 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 So yes, looks like Spike has no interest in doing business with TNA after their contract expires. Pulling in a 1-1.4 rating would have to interest some cable network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Looks like JR tweeted about the Spike/TNA rumor also. Didn't Dragon Gate USA have PPVs at one point? I could have sworn I saw them listed on my cable guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 It's amazing to think that if the Spike thing kills TNA, it will have lasted 12 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacelle Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Back to this what moves are acceptable as a heel, I say to hell with that shit. Wrestlers, not heels & faces. Boo the shitty ones & cheer the good ones. You know, like any rational fan who doesn't treat it like they're going to a midnight screening of Rocky Horror. I just hate hearing people say you're supposed to boo the heel & cheer the face like it's a fact. Who actually did this? There was always heels you dug & faces you thought stunk. Look at the favourite & most hated threads. How many guys loved Savage or Flair regardless of their face/heel dynamic? How many people hated wrestlers who came off as phoney or corny? Let's bury this idea that you're a bad fan if you don't cheer & boo who you're supposed to. Plus most wrestlers switch sides, it looks disingenuous when they have a completely new move set depending on whether they're a good guy or a bad guy. Just be awesome or be self aware that you're not & cheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Aren't you being equally as phoney/corny by cheering the guy who just called everyone in the building a fucking idiot? You're also making the assumption that a) people are cheering "their guy" rather than just being so post modern by cheering anyone who's a heel, and b) that you don't necessarily like the guy he's in the ring with, whose job is now harder to do because fans are deliberately giving the opposite reaction they're hoping for to tell the story they want to. Let alone that not everyone in the building has some pre-existing sentimental attachment to whoever in the ring, it might be their first show, so why is the despicable heel pulling out admirably brave high spots like shooting star presses and dives to the outside? Don't buy the argument that a new move set looks disingenuous either. Using Jericho as an example where it was blatantly hammered home that he wasn't doing anything that was remotely entertaining and was no longer pandering to fans, then it makes sense for him not to pull out high spots. Same as Cactus's anti-hardcore stuff in ECW with the rest holds. Or that it fits the character development (why would Marvellous Marc Mero be doing the same flippy shit as Wildman Marc Mero, looking past the fact that post-knee blow out, he really can't?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacelle Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I'm not saying that at all. Let it be a contest, let the fans determine who they want to cheer for, work. If your aim is to be boo'd, if that's your end game then be a bastard. However people will cheer who they feel is better at the wrestling. They will boo who they think sucks, within the context of the match. It doesn't always have to be He-Man versus Skeletor, sometimes it can be the Chicago Bears vs the Kansas City Chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre013 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I think the point of it was that the giant swing is a comedy move with little impact solely for crowd appeal and that it betrays the illusion that Cesaro is an ass kicker and heel (or villain to keep your movie analogy going). Btw, Fox is somehow interested in TNA? That would be an interesting marriage with UFC programming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 If Fox got it, could it maybe end up as claymation? That'd be pretty cool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 As far as heels doing high spots go, it's not the what they're doing so much as the why and how they react to the fans' response. A face might hit something and then play to the crowd, a heel might do some similar move as means of arrogantly taunting/showing off to the crowd. The giant swing is a bit of a comedy move, but him hitting it is like saying, "I've got the other guy so far beaten down I'm just going to do something to toy with/humiliate him". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 For all this "comedy move" talk, I'd rather take a back bump than a giant swing any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 meanwhile on Twitter, people are posting wrestling botch gifs under the hashtag #TNAGOTCANCELLEDBECAUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Z Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Hah, I just went to TMZ to read the TNA story and the first thing that popped up was this: Wrestling Star Buff Bagwell: My New Move is Porn Probably almost equally as funny as the TNA story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoeCristyV.1.6 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 TNA = There Gone! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 So I guess the million dollar question is how much of a factor was them finding out that Russo was still working for the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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