Craig H Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Here's the infamous MySpace and NASCAR questions. You have got to be shitting me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Yeah, my take on Civil War was that Cap still thought he was in the right, but realized that the way he could fight for his ideals would never succeed and the cost of "punching other superheroes in the face" would ultimately be too high. Here's the infamous MySpace and NASCAR questions. Oh lord. **1) I never used Myspace and barely know what it is/was. Social media site similar to Facebook? I don't use Facebook or Twitter either **2) I don't remember who won the Series last year. I couldn't name a winner on American Idol (did Carrie Underwood win? Was Carrie Underwood actually on Idol, or do I just think she might have been?) **3) I've never watched a Nascar race on TV, much less in person. I could name maybe six auto racers and I'm not sure which of those race Nascar and which race in some other league. **4) I have watched the Simpsons recently, and I watch videos on Youtube fairly regularly (though I wouldn't miss most of them if I didn't see them). I'm sad to learn I'm not socially relevant either. On the other hand, those are pretty arbitrary criteria for relevance. Pretty sure there are a lot of people walking around who are more culturally relevant than I am and would answer no to all those questions. On the other hand, her view that Cap was out of step with the times and not the best source to model cultural attitudes isn't wrong. Cap can live as he wants, but shouldn't expect the rest of the world to live like it's still 1940. I really liked Paul Jenkins as a writer. His run on Hellbalzer was great. His Inhumans series was outstanding. A lot of his work on Spider Man books was solid. Hell, the Sentry mini was rather great. He then did the James Robinson thing where he stayed too long in the medium and lost interest or something. Seemed like his work declined sharply after a certain point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 One of my friends always talked footy with jenkins at conventions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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_MJ_ Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I never read the Civil War books, but on paper, I thought the premise was a very interesting idea. Government registration, civil liberties/big brother/privacy, superheroes vs. superheroes over ideals, etc. Everyone would always tell me the execution was very flawed. But On Paper... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainmakerrtv Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Who was the writer who ended up having Sally Floyd get audited? Wikipedia says is was Avengers : Initiative #6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Joss being out after Avengers 2 isn't new. He's mentioned it before they even started shooting. Joss has never confirmed that he wasn't doing A3. He's hemmed and hawed about his participation in the franchise in the way that directors who don't have a contract do ("Oh, it's such an arduous process making these big movies, " and "I'd Ilike to do some smaller films," and the like), but inevitably, the brinks truck is backed up, the dollars are paid, and there they are in the chair for the sequel. Although I do see where there was a smidge of smoke about Whedon being out in favor of James Gunn back in July. So it seems Marvel has been looking to dump him for a while, they just hadn't figured out for whom. Suddenly, this picture seems more resonant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 It resonates that Joss & his fans always try to make it about him? Seems about right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Well, the story is about him, so...yes, in this case, it is about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The story was Edgar Wright was leaving Ant-Man, then Joss butted in and was like "Me too! I support Edgar!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Ah, I see what you're saying. But I still don't think he was overtly making it about himself. A lot of people came out in support of Edgar after all that shit went down. I'm just saying that, in retrospect, you can probably read a bit more into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMN Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The best part of Civil War was the stuff with Cable and Deadpool, and they can't do that, so meh. They should cash in and do Marvel Zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Its gonna be fun watching Zeidler turn violently on the Marvel movies when they go "SRS BZNSSS!!" from Cap 3 on with the Civil War shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 My main concern now is that this shit seems all over the place. In no particular order, the Marvel Movie U seems to be dealing with any of these as the main threats: Loki Thanos Ultron Hydra The dissolving of SHIELD Civil War Winter Soldier The Infinity Gauntlet And I'm sure I'm forgetting some. It feels like things have become really unfocused. Then you factor in other shit like rumors that Mandarin may indeed return and Trev is actually Mandarin, among other things. It's like, things would have been GREAT if they just fucking focused on the Infinity Gauntlet. We started out with Iron Man introducing the Avengers Initiative, leading to recruiting Hulk, Cap and Thor. Along the way, hints started dropping about Infinity Stones and especially so with Thor and Loki. Avengers happened and it exposed the world to aliens and the focus became Thanos as the mega big bad and presumably, the Infinity Gauntlet. Iron Man 3, for it's faults, actually seemed like a good follow up because it dealt with some of the fallout from the Avengers while providing Tony with a new adventure that didn't feel like it would become the focus of the Marvel Movie U. Then along came Cap 2. Cap 2 was awesome, but you think about what that movie sets up and you just scratch your head. All of a sudden, we went from Thanos and everything the Avengers setup, to dissolving SHIELD, exposing Hyrda as the seemingly big bad, introducing Winter Soldier as a nemesis and then hinting at Hydra using an Infinity Stone and manipulating whatever the Marvel Movie U is going to call mutants. And finally you have Avengers 2 using the Age of Ultron story while Cap 3 appears to setup Civil War. Like, what the fuck is happening for christ's sake? That's another reason why I loved Guardians of the Galaxy because it went back to what was most exciting: Getting the greatest heroes in the universe together to fight one common foe who is greater than all others. There was no Hyrda, no Ultron, no motherfucking Civil War. There was just, hey, this Thanos guy is the king motherfucker and he will destroy everybody, so stop fucking around and start fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I wonder if the success of GotG may have influenced their decision to apparently go forward with Civil War so that in theory they could do civil war from Cap 3 to Avengers 3 and in A3 introduce the Thanos/Infinite Gauntlet stuff as the reason to end the civil war stuff and then warp that up in GotG 2 or 3. But that would require them to get all the actors to agree to more movies (most likely). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 From what has been bandied around, one thought is that not all the characters will be in Avengers 3. Some could end up in a big Guardians finale I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 What a fucking headache it is to think about where this is all going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I'm beginning to think there's no way they get this all done without something falling through or the possibility of the franchises going to shit over talent salaries and needing to recast stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipGofern Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I think the success of GoTG and all these recent RDjr rumors may have altered their plans. If GoTG had been a middling success, they could've just scrapped the series and concluded that story in an Infinity Gauntlet movie in A3. But since it was such a huge hit, they now have at least one and possibly two more movies to play with before they feed into the big Gauntlet storyline. Also, with Downey seemingly joining Cap 3 and hinting around about doing another Iron Man, it frees them up to do the Civil Storyline over a few movies where if he was only looking to do A3 and then bolt, they really wouldn't have a chance to build that story up like they'd want to. In terms of recasts/reboots, I've felt all along the Gauntlet movie is going to be the Big Bang or Crisis event that reboots the cinematic Marvel U so we get a new Thor, new Iron Man, New Fury, etc... If Downey, Evans and so forth are able and willing to hang around so it's an Avengers Quadrilogy instead of Trilogy, why not put that off until 4-5 years down the road? As for the Whedon thing, as big a Whedon fanboy as I am, it makes sense to match directors with the sensibility of the film you're making. The Russos showed they are perfect for making a Civil War type film while Gunn is a no-brainer for the eventual Infinity Gauntlet movie. Although I'd hire Gunn for anything - as much as I love Joss, I still believe Gunn is the best combination filmmaker/comic nerd they've gotten yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Gunn makes me nervous though, because he made some comments after GotG came out that made me wonder about him. Like, almost immediately dismissing Chris Pratt as Peter Quill until he saw Pratt as Quill. Same thing happened with Batista. It basically took an inordinate amount of effort from those guys getting into that movie because Gunn had his mind made up and it was his casting director saying, yo, you really need to look at these guys. It makes me think about who he was so dead set on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 It feels weird that of all the names listed as potential Doctor Stranges, I'm the most high on Jake Gyllenhal. He's been doing a lot of good stuff, lately. McConaughey would be great, of course, but 1) there's not a chance in hell, and 2) Doctor Strange with a west Texas accent...just, no. I actually kinda liked the Keanu suggestion somebody put forward a few days ago. But I think it's a little too close to Constantine for anyone to go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Keanu was asked in an AMA the other day too if he would be interested and he said that a bunch of people have been telling him to go out for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Look, this isn't that big of a mess. I think most of us could storyboard how this could or should work out with a couple of hours, and we're not getting paid millions of dollars or whatever. It's not rocket science. It's comic book character management. Marvel's publishing wing has something like 3 events a year they have to correspond over 40 titles. This is infinitely simpler than that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Never underestimate the ability of Hollywood to absolutely fuck up a sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Yeah, but it's much harder to switch gears with a movie franchise when you have 2 to 3 years of development time in between films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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