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They should do an Invaders movie with Namor and then when the next FF movie flops, redo his Silver Age "origin" where the Torch finds him

 

So, does Jim Hammond belong to Fox because of the FF or Marvel Studios?

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When Edgar Wright ("Hot Fuzz") suddenly departed Marvel's Ant-Man, fans were stunned. Who could blame them? Wright had been working on the project for eight years, before the Marvel cinematic universe began with Iron Man. It finally looked like it would become a reality as Wright had shot and presented some fantastic test footage proving that the diminutive superhero could hold his own. We all knew Wright could pull off comedy but we were convinced he could handle action as well when Wright delivered a great choreographed action sequence (bathroom brawl) in 2013's The World's End. Wright's Ant-Man will now go down as one of the great "what ifs" of cinema. So, who will replace Edgar Wright? The Hollywood Reporter believes they know of three directors that are in the hunt:

"Sources say Rawson Thurber, Adam McKay and Ruben Fleischer are among a group of directors that are meeting with the studio to replace Edgar Wright." - Borys Kit

Alright, let's take a closer look at the contenders. First up, Rawson Marshall Thurber. Thurber is best known for directing DodgeBall: A True Underdog Story, We're the Millers and Easy A. Adam McKay is best known for directing Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy, Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby and Step Brothers. Lastly, Ruben Fleischer is responsible for Zombieland, 30 Minutes or Less andGangster Squad.

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I'd choose either Adam McKay for Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy or Ruben Fleischer for Zombieland. Still wish Edgar Wright was on board.

I love Adam McKay's stuff, but he seems like a terrible fit for this movie. I laugh a lot at THE OTHER GUYS, but I don't think any of the action bits are all that good.

Reuben Fleischer seems like the best fit to come in and carry on in Wright's place based on ZOMBIELAND. But, man, I thought GANGSTER SQUAD was a turd. I wonder which Fleischer would show up.

Thurber is the obvious worst choice. But after being swatted down by the studio on DODGEBALL, he's gradually remade himself as someone the studios can deal with, and last year he turned in a no-fuss, no-muss, by-the-book comedy in WE'RE THE MILLERS that made a lot of money. So they'll probably pick him.

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All three of those choices could backfire hardcore. 

 

How good is Thurber without the obscene jokes and dildo/giant swollen testicle sight gags? I mean they kinda stole the middle finger bit from Talladega Nights for GotG, but at least McKay can have some decent PG-13 friendly stuff outside of that.

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I would do a Namor movie without having Namor as the hero. An overzealous American military accidently kills a few Atlantians (including members of Namor's family). So Atlantis goes to war with the surface world. Which makes him the "bad guy", but we can at least sympathize with his reasons. It's essentially King Kong, but with motherfuckin' Namor.

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Thurber is the obvious worst choice. But after being swatted down by the studio on DODGEBALL, he's gradually remade himself as someone the studios can deal with, and last year he turned in a no-fuss, no-muss, by-the-book comedy in WE'RE THE MILLERS that made a lot of money. So they'll probably pick him.

 

But I love Easy A a fuckton. More poeple need to see that movie.

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They should do an Invaders movie with Namor and then when the next FF movie flops, redo his Silver Age "origin" where the Torch finds him

 

So, does Jim Hammond belong to Fox because of the FF or Marvel Studios?

 

Well, in the 70s someone having the rights to Hammond was enough to keep Johnny out of the New FF cartoon, but that's 35 years ago. So it's entirely possible but hard to say for sure. If they never use the name "Human Torch" and just do Jim Hammond, Android On Fire, they might survive.

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John C. Reilly is already a part of GotG so I doubt that would allow him to be a different character in Ant Man.

 

Yeah, I know. It would be great, though.

IMDB also has Michael Douglas listed as playing Hank Pym. I must have missed those news.

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Adam McKay has been confirmed as the new director of Ant-Man.

 

Oh man, John C. Reilly as Hank Pym mentoring Paul Rudd as Scott Lang would be priceless.

And now the Hollywood Reporter is saying that McKay abruptly pulled out of negotiations.

Yeesh. I wonder how badly Marvel has fucked up this movie with their rewrites. Nobody wants to touch this thing.

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I hate that people believe Marvel Studios isn't just like every other studio. We are witnessing now with this Ant-Man debacle. They wanted the director on a short fucking leash and waved their gigantic Disney dick in his face until he said enough is enough.

 

You'll see it again with Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm not saying it will bomb but if it doesn't make the kind of money they want it to make that will be the end of these second and third tier hero movies. They will beat your fucking head in with Iron Man reboots.

 

By the way, Marvel Studios would have been incapable of making a decent X-Men film. The content is way too mature for them to handle properly.

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They'll continue to make the 2nd and 3rd tier movies simply because Downey Jr. probably won't do Iron Man every 3 years. He will be 53 by the time the third Avengers movie happens. They could (and probably will) replace him eventually, but that would be fucking weird considering how the franchise started.

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The McKay thing is another black eye for Marvel, because, regardless of his actual reasons for turning down ANT-MAN, it creates the perception of yet another distinctive filmmaker turning his nose up at the Marvel machine. It reinforces the growing belief that Marvel isn't looking to do business with directors so much as people who can reliably produce successful product.

That said, if there's anything to be salvaged from ANT-MAN at this point, it's probably for the best that McKay turned it down, because he really was a poor match for movie. In addition to his afformetioned lack of skill when it comes to shooting action, he prefers a very loose, improvisational style of shooting with a thousand different takes - not exactly ideal when you're already behind the eight ball time-wise and with, I assume, a ton of CG production on the back end.

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This is reminding me far too much of X-Men: The Last Stand in 2005 when we finally wound up with Brett "Career Hack" Ratner taking the job 11 months before the film opened.

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Also very true.

 

Thing is, I don't think they ever went forward with an Ant-Man solo movie (and certainly not introducing him in a solo film) if not for it being done with Edgar Wright, who seems the perfect fit to do a true superhero comedy.  At this point, they have the release date staked, have put money into developing this particular film, and certainly don't have enough time to get a different film made and put out in that span of time.

 

But I still remember the stories of Ratner literally trying to direct two scenes at once, one in front of him, and one with a cell phone and a monitor at a different location, because they were so rushed for time.  Plus, of course, he was a hack who only got the job after Singer left (for Superman) and then Whedon (for the aborted Wonder Woman), Snyder (for 300) and a couple other guys turned them down, and Matthew Vaughn left abruptly because the schedule was too rushed, and they needed somebody that was capable of churning out a big budget movie* in nowhere near enough time.  Which is when you hire a hack.

 

 

*Actually, at the time, the non-inflation adjusted all-time biggest budget in movie history.

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