Charlie M. Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I'd be hard pressed to find something more overrated than Chipolte. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I actually thought JBL was terrible in Brock/Taker. Felt like he was giving away the finish, honestly. If you thought he was terrible, fine, but he didn't even kind of come anywhere close to giving away the finish at all and it's ridiculous to say otherwise. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 How was it ridiculous? He was all but declaring the streak over the entire match. He telegraphed Taker losing from about the halfway point on up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 His commentary wouldn't have changed even if Undertaker went over, so I'm of the opinion that it was just JBL playing the heel announcer role and downplaying 'Taker (the face) and boosting the heel (Lesnar). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 His commentary wouldn't have changed even if Undertaker went over, so I'm of the opinion that it was just JBL playing the heel announcer role and downplaying 'Taker (the face) and boosting the heel (Lesnar). I assumed he went the route he did because he assumed (like we all did) that 'Taker going over was a certainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 How was it ridiculous? He was all but declaring the streak over the entire match. He telegraphed Taker losing from about the halfway point on up. Because the audience had always been trained to not believe the heel announcer and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 It's 2014 though, there is not such thing as a true heel announcer anymore. Nowadays, the audience is trained to think that the announcer is burying people if they speak ill of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 For some reason I always wondered how WWE would've booked Rick Rude after his loss to Warrior? He was coming across as alot more serious leading up to the cage match at SS and Heenan was moving away from managing so if he had stayed would he had turned face soon after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 So was RandomAct really surprised when Daniel Bryan won everything after JBL said it was impossible? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Or that there is actually a flying goat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 For some reason I always wondered how WWE would've booked Rick Rude after his loss to Warrior? He was coming across as alot more serious leading up to the cage match at SS and Heenan was moving away from managing so if he had stayed would he had turned face soon after? Rude was being set-up for a feud with Big Bossman, and Bossman was having a hot run as a face (even replacing Tugboat as Hogan's second at SummerSlam) so Bossman was definitely winning that feud. Either Rude would have just continued the downward slide and been just a random heel at WMVII (maybe wrestling Bulldog or Von Erich) or they could have pulled the trigger on a potential Rude-Perfect feud that seemed to be hinted at when Perfect accidentally eliminated Rude at the Rumble. But the immediate plans were Bossman-Rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 RE: Jesse Neal. Apparently the average Wal Mart wage is something like $18,000 a year. So if he really is making way more than he did in TNA...yikes. He should be praised for moving on with his life, though. The people trashing him over this are cretins. Yeah, God forbid he doesn't want to end up like Virgil or Sunny and lurking around conventions or taking sexy photos with obese guys for $10. But..he is a big guy and has tribal tattoos. Can't he be a bouncer or something? It's better than Wal Mart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I'm not sure "multiple concussions" and "bouncer" are a great combo. Also, as for bouncing being better than Wal-Mart: Depends where you're bouncing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Who is trashing him?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 As an obese male, I can get a sexy photo with Virgil for only $10??? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 So was RandomAct really surprised when Daniel Bryan won everything after JBL said it was impossible? There is a difference between obviously being the Authority shill/playing a character in one match and doing a poor job of building suspense in another. I don't recall King and Cole feverishly going out of their way to come to Undertaker's side like they did for Bryan, to counteract what JBL was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKash202 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 On Jim Ross's podcast with Robert Florez of ESPN, he made a great point. Why have the rules in wrestling so lax? Punches are allowed. Kicks with the front of the boot are allowed. Rules need to be stressed more because without rules, you undermine the role of the heels because they have nothing to break. I have heard him say this before but he was really passionate about this just now. GO listen http://podcastone.com/program?action=viewProgram&programID=619 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodear Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 On Jim Ross's podcast with Robert Florez of ESPN, he made a great point. Why have the rules in wrestling so lax? Punches are allowed. Kicks with the front of the boot are allowed. Rules need to be stressed more because without rules, you undermine the role of the heels because they have nothing to break. I have heard him say this before but he was really passionate about this just now. GO listen http://podcastone.com/program?action=viewProgram&programID=619 There are plenty of rules to break without having lame disqualifications from kicks and punches that won't do anyone any good. Hair pulling, eye pokes, choking, fish hooking, biting, low blows and rope assistance are all still illegal things a heel can do for heat. One could argue that the thumb to the eye is more rare now than it was in the eighties and more likely to lead to a finish. The business is constantly evolving past making things illegal that don't build any heat. Unless you want to go back to over the top rope disqualifications and no coming off the top rules? Are you Bill Watts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 As an obese male, I can get a sexy photo with Virgil for only $10??? I can't think of a better bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Don't silly the good name of Bill Watts in this! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Don't silly the good name of Bill Watts in this! Yes... don't "silly" it at all 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I'd thought that in recent years, especially with groups like AAW and St. Louis Anarchy who tout the "all no-countout-no-DQ all the time" mentality. Does it make the heels bad that they cheat or does it make the faces stupid that they don't take advantages that they won't be penalized for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Who is trashing him?? Meltzer mentioned his Wal-Mart job in the WON this week... the tone wasn't insulting, just saying he worked there and moving on to the next item. Doesn't he have good insurance as a vet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I'm not sure "multiple concussions" and "bouncer" are a great combo. Also, as for bouncing being better than Wal-Mart: Depends where you're bouncing. No doubt. Also, you may not want to be out until 3 AM most nights. For all we know, he may be on track for management. Still not a great gig, but better than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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