EVA Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Drew McWeeny called it worse than QOS and said the stupidity of it retroactively ruined the Craig series. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Yeah but are you gonna trust a guy named McWeeny? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 You see, I think that's kind of an overblown reaction. I'm happy to at least see the movie again in IMAX. The movie's main problem is its pacing. And a shitty song by Sam Smith. Also treating a reveal like Star Trek Into Darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Just rewatched Skyfall. I'm sorry, but if you don't get a little jolt if joy when the classic theme starts in while he's driving the DB5, you hate Bond, the Queen, and really everything British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Once the movie shifts from Laaandon to Scotland, things pick up exponentially. Really didn't like the first 3/4s of that one. I'm hoping I find more joy with Spectre. Speaking of which, does anybody else read "Spectre" in Connery's voice each and every time? I can't not hear it in his voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I watched Skyfall again last night and I didn't enjoy it as much on second viewing. Spoiler ahead: Silva's plan of getting captured and shit it was all way too convoluted. The more I think about it, I don't think it works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 A Bond villain had too convoluted a plan? Perish the thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Even by Bond standards it was out there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 This is a franchise that started with "disrupt an American space launch with a radio beam from an underground base that uses a Dragon-shaped submarine to scare people away" as far as nefarious plots go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 It was a fine plot but done much better the first time by The Joker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 And by Loki. My favorite part of Skyfall was the fight in the skyrise. Like, Roger Deakins set out to prove Orange and Teal doesn't have to be awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister TV Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I just got back from seeing Spectre and I liked it! Of the Craig films I put it right beside Skyfall but below Casino Royale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I feel like this would be praised more if Craig hadn't set a high bar for Bond with 2 of his previous 3 entries. I just returned from a screening, and I thought the opening sequence was good up until the glaringly bad CGI. I thought the plot was largely unsurprising and probably foreshadowed itself a bit too much throughout, and I liked Waltz in this but felt he was lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew POE! Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I saw Spectre yesterday. If the movie's story is worse than Quantum of Solace or Octopussy, you have problems. To me, any movie after Skyfall would have a tough act to follow. Skyfall is one of the few Bond movies that works on the same level as The Dark Knight -- it transcended the genre and seemed to have more to it. I was hoping Spectre would have Bond realize that everything he's ever known about his missions and his way of life was wrong. The revelation that I thought would happen would be: Blofield/Oberstein's father help start the 00 agent program and secretly Spectre. 00 agents are actually sleeper agents for Spectre and Blofield is fulfilling the plans along. Instead, Blofield got the worst motivation for a character -- he became Blofield and started Spectre because his daddy didn't love him. How stupid is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I thought it was pretty good, not quite Skyfall/Casino Royale but MUCH better than Quantum. This despite middling performances out of the bond girl, and Waltz, who lets be frank is exactly the same in every role. But I liked it enough to want more. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Strangest thing about SPECTRE: no one wearing a lucha mask during the mexico city dia de muertos scene. -- I thought it was passable but not much more than that. I rarely say this, but maybe too much pastiche to older films: Wrestler henchman in a suit Health clinic set in a mountain chalet Claustrphobic fight scene on train (ending with henchman flung from the train) Bond one-shot killing the guards in Ra's... I mean Blofeld's desert paradise was like level one of a video game. I am so tired of the hero/villain doppelganger (i made you or you made me). I guess Sam Jackson didnt invite Ralph Fiennes to join the Avengers, because he was one already. The ONLY thing that made me happy was Andrew Scott was not scretly Blofeld. Bad enough he is/was Moriarty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 That was possibly the worst film I've ever watched. 2 and a half unnecessary hours of pointless aping of the Dark Knight. This was a Bond coverband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 It was.. Well, it was a hell of a lot better than QoS. I enjoyed myself, but it was a serious step back from Skyfall, and not even in the same league as Casino Royale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 The best part of Spectre is that it fulfilled the promise of Casino Royale that the Craig Bond movies were going to be something different without completely abandoning the Bond mythos. We got a multi-picture story arc with a beginning and an end, with Bond ending up a more complex version of the character than we'd ever seen before. The worst part of Spectre was that the villain was such a complete nincompoop that it was barely credible that he had formed this secret global network. That he was someone Bond had known since childhood and we never heard about, not even when there was the chance, in Skyfall, was also idiotic. Gee it sure was lucky that Bond became a spy. Creating a giant global terrorist network in order to bedevil your hated foster brother would have looked awfully silly if he'd become a grocer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 But you know what, Casino Royals is still the fucking best. It might be my favorite Bond film. Perfect balance of updating and grounding the character while not losing him (unlike QoS, which actively hated James Bond) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 QoS is just so nasty and mean spirited. It's a completely wrong tone for the franchise. I still haven't seen Skyfall let alone Spectre. I'm a bad person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 QoS is a lot like License to Kill. Mean, nasty, the tone is way off for Bond, and it feels way more like the then contemporary action films of the day than like Bond*. Difference is, License is a pretty good example of a late 80's drug kingpin takedown revenge film. QoS is a really bad rip off of Borne. And I don't even really like the Borne films all that much. *Casino Royale dances around this, being clearly indebted to Borne as well, but retaining enough of who Bond is, and it adds being a metric fuckton better than all four Borne films combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 But you know what, Casino Royals is still the fucking best. Yes, but i dont think we mean the same picture. http://youtu.be/2oarSQrkMIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Christ that spoof film is bad. It might actually be worse than Die Another Day and A View To a Kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 That really hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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