offspring515 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 So what was the deal with Vince wanting Brock Lesnar to go over Austin in a KOTR qualifying match on Raw. I get that they were pushing Brock to the moon, and probably already had Brock/Rock set for Summerslam but wouldn't it make more sense to save that match for PPV? Was that done to just intentionally piss Austin off? Was it a power play to put Austin in his place? Anybody know the scuttlebutt? Austin brought it up on a few podcasts, but the gist of it appears to be that Austin said or did something that pissed the writers off, and their revenge was to book Austin jobbing clean to Lesnar at the next RAW. Austin has always said that he would lose to Brock on a PPV with build with no problem, but he thought it was petty BS that he would be forced to lose to Brock on a throwaway RAW with no rhyme or reason behind it. So he walked. Austin to this day says he doesn't regret doing it, but he does regret the way he did it. Ahhh ok, Thanks. Man oh man...wrestling can be so fucking petty. Imagine throwing away a PPV main event of that caliber because someone pissed you off a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm29195 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 So what was the deal with Vince wanting Brock Lesnar to go over Austin in a KOTR qualifying match on Raw. I get that they were pushing Brock to the moon, and probably already had Brock/Rock set for Summerslam but wouldn't it make more sense to save that match for PPV? Was that done to just intentionally piss Austin off? Was it a power play to put Austin in his place? Anybody know the scuttlebutt? Austin brought it up on a few podcasts, but the gist of it appears to be that Austin said or did something that pissed the writers off, and their revenge was to book Austin jobbing clean to Lesnar at the next RAW. Austin has always said that he would lose to Brock on a PPV with build with no problem, but he thought it was petty BS that he would be forced to lose to Brock on a throwaway RAW with no rhyme or reason behind it. So he walked. Austin to this day says he doesn't regret doing it, but he does regret the way he did it. Ahhh ok, Thanks. Man oh man...wrestling can be so fucking petty. Imagine throwing away a PPV main event of that caliber because someone pissed you off a little bit. I think what they were pissed off about was Austin going on the Byte This show and saying he thought the creative direction of the company sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 And it scuttled the Austin/Eddy feud! Un-fucking-forgivable. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offspring515 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Wow I forgot that was starting up right then....damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I remember there were rumors that Austin didn't want to work with Eddie but it's good to know that wasn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I think at one point he didn't. A different point, maybe when Eddy first showed up before he was released the first time. h/e didn't want to work with JJ either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 So what was the deal with Vince wanting Brock Lesnar to go over Austin in a KOTR qualifying match on Raw. I get that they were pushing Brock to the moon, and probably already had Brock/Rock set for Summerslam but wouldn't it make more sense to save that match for PPV? Was that done to just intentionally piss Austin off? Was it a power play to put Austin in his place? Anybody know the scuttlebutt? Austin brought it up on a few podcasts, but the gist of it appears to be that Austin said or did something that pissed the writers off, and their revenge was to book Austin jobbing clean to Lesnar at the next RAW. Austin has always said that he would lose to Brock on a PPV with build with no problem, but he thought it was petty BS that he would be forced to lose to Brock on a throwaway RAW with no rhyme or reason behind it. So he walked. Austin to this day says he doesn't regret doing it, but he does regret the way he did it. Ahhh ok, Thanks. Man oh man...wrestling can be so fucking petty. Imagine throwing away a PPV main event of that caliber because someone pissed you off a little bit. I think what they were pissed off about was Austin going on the Byte This show and saying he thought the creative direction of the company sucked. He probably did go about it the wrong way, but he was correct on both it being stupid to do Austin/Bork on a throwaway Raw with no build when it could have generated good $ on PPV AND the creative direction of the company going south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 From memory the Eddy feud was a form of appeasement to get him to stay. They asked him who the one guy he wanted to work with was and he said Eddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dank Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 According to this thread Austin either didn't want to work with Eddy or specifically requested to work with Eddy. Clears everything up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm29195 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 According to this thread Austin either didn't want to work with Eddy or specifically requested to work with Eddy. Clears everything up. The Eddy thing was in his comeback right after No Mercy 2000 when he in as much said that he wasn't going to give anyone who wasn't a main eventer any offence in order to make him look as strong as possible after his return. He squashed Eddy and others on RAW around this time and was criticised for it online. He ended up kick starting hishis run of good matches against Angle and Benoit in November/December. I particularly remember a match with Benoit where Austin was booked to go toe to toe with him. In wrestling holds with commentators putting his wrestling ability over strong... He definitely did want to work Eddy in 2002, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great ML Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yes they ran the bar angle in 2002 right before his walkout...definitely a feud in the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm29195 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Excuse me if I'm missing something really obvious, but did Yojozuna ever get a televised rematch against Bret following WM10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 No. Yoko was moved into a feud with the returning Earthquake, who quit shortly after realizing he had been brought in as fodder for Yoko. Yokozuna was basically in limbo through 94 teaming with Crush and beating Mabel and Typhoon (who filled in for Quake) until Undertaker returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 According to this thread Austin either didn't want to work with Eddy or specifically requested to work with Eddy. Clears everything up. Maybe he didn't want to work with Eddy when he was dealing with his serious drug/alcohol issues but came around when Eddy got cleaned up during his hiatus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 According to this thread Austin either didn't want to work with Eddy or specifically requested to work with Eddy. Clears everything up. Maybe he didn't want to work with Eddy when he was dealing with his serious drug/alcohol issues but came around when Eddy got cleaned up during his hiatus? Possibly. I've always assumed that originally Austin didn't want to work with Eddie because Steve was at the height of his paranoia and was really selective about who he'd do business with, but by 2002, realized he was in the twilight of his career and knew he and Eddie could do a good program. Or it might just be the personal demons. I will say, listening to Austin's podcast, I appreciate that he's able to mention his own personal "faults" like being stubborn during different parts of his run and all that. I also like that Steve doesn't appear to be bitter at all or a nutjob about the wrestling business. I know it helps when you're a top 5 star of all time, but guys like Hogan and even Flair aren't nearly as grounded as Austin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 It probably helps that Austin is a self-admitted loner and cheapskate who doesn't need attention 24 hours a day like Hogan and Flair do and also took care of his money when he was making a ton of it. He's got his reality shows and low budget action films to pay the bills now and I assume can pretty much do whatever he feels like the rest of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Was Bret Hart's sternum injury made up so he could get out of doing a job? If it was as bad as he claims, he sure didn't show it by not missing any bookings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 It probably helps that Austin is a self-admitted loner and cheapskate who doesn't need attention 24 hours a day like Hogan and Flair do and also took care of his money when he was making a ton of it. He's got his reality shows and low budget action films to pay the bills now and I assume can pretty much do whatever he feels like the rest of the time. i don't disagree with what you're saying, but it's funny to point out he doesn't need attention 24 hours a day, then go on to mention his reality shows during a subject about his podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Bugg Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Why did Davey Boy leave the WWF in 1992? I mean, the dude had a PPV pretty much catered around him and delivered in the main event with one of the best matches of the year. Also, what's this about Dynamite getting into it with the Rougeaus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnowsWrestling Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 from wiki Smith's WWF run came to an end when it was discovered that he and The Ultimate Warrior had been receiving shipments of human growth hormone from a pharmacy in England, and both were therefore released from their contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Why did Davey Boy leave the WWF in 1992? I mean, the dude had a PPV pretty much catered around him and delivered in the main event with one of the best matches of the year. Also, what's this about Dynamite getting into it with the Rougeaus? Long story short, in late 1988 Curt Hennig shredded the Rougeaus' clothing in a prank, but the Rougeaus thought Dynamite did it. Jacques confronted Dynamite and Dynamite smacked him. A few weeks later Jacques gave him a receipt by sucker punching him in the mouth with a roll of coins and destroyed Dynamite's teeth. The only reason the Bulldogs lasted 30 minutes plus at Survivor Series 88 was for the Rougeaus to be eliminated first and get out of the arena in case Dynamite was looking for payback either in the ring or backstage. For the long story, get Pure Dynamite. It's one of the better wrestling bios out there, and Dynamite lets it all out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Wasn't there a story that Dynamite was afraid that the Rougeaus had ties to the Canadian mafia or some shit? I also recall that Jacques ended up paying to fix his teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I'm guessing you'd mean the same sort of Montreal Mafia that Dino Bravo was involved with, as opposed to a Canadian mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Yeah I think Vince made him pay to get the teeth fixed. And there's been Sicilian mafia in Montreal for years. The only dudes badder than them up there were the '90s era Hell's Angels. I remember the big Earthquake/Yoko sumo match where they just circled each other and threw salt the whole time. It was actually kind of suspenseful, anyone remember how it ended? I think Quake won but the memory is faded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Quake won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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