GuerrillaMonsoon Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Lets be honest, Hogan wasn't tapping to the sharpshooter in '93.Another question, can't remember the year but Undertaker faced Mankind and Paul Bearer was in a cage. Taker came down from the rafters like a gay-batman all in leather. I remember taker working differently. Was this the first time he'd changed his look and working style? I can't remember anything other than the grey or purple gloves before it. You could probably add the short lived Phantom of the Opera mask in late 95/early 96. There were several tweaks made from 96 through to 97 really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 You could probably add the short lived Phantom of the Opera mask in late 95/early 96. There were several tweaks made from 96 through to 97 really. That was pretty much a tweak by necessity though, since he had to wear some kind of facial mask after Mabel legit crushed his orbital bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Just wondering about Scott Casey's WWF career. Ever since I first saw the 2nd Survivor Series, he's struck me as an odd one, as I know nothing about him. Every other guy on PPVs of that era had some fleeting moment of fame, or at least cropped up on Colloseum Videos. This guy, I know nothing about. Did he have any minor feuds or wins worth noting? If you're talking about non-WWE stuff, Casey was a pretty big name in the Southwest with SCW/TASW and then World Class after the former group folded. At some point following his WWE gig he moved to Las Vegas and opened a wrestling school there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 To me, Scott Casey will always be the guy in the Jim Cornette "green jacket" angle from Dallas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Harms Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share Posted July 24, 2013 Again with WM9, Luger lays out Perfect with the elbow. Perfect goes backstage looking for him and has a scrap, I believe HBK is involved. Does this go anywhere? All I remember is WMX, Perfect as guest ref screws Luger over and I consider that payback. But did anything happen in between? Or after for that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm29195 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Again with WM9, Luger lays out Perfect with the elbow. Perfect goes backstage looking for him and has a scrap, I believe HBK is involved. Does this go anywhere? All I remember is WMX, Perfect as guest ref screws Luger over and I consider that payback. But did anything happen in between? Or after for that matter? Michaels and Perfect ended up feuding including a nice brawl outside the Manhattan Centre, where Perfect backdropped Michaels on Howard Finkel's car, and the lacklustre match at Summerslam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 What people don't seem to remember about the Perfect/Luger stuff is that it was all about Heenan. There's a direct line from Survivor Series 92 to WM9 with Heenan championing Flair, then Razor vs Perfect and finally bringing in Luger to finish the job. Neither here nor there but I saw Perfect's first promo post WMX last night and they were definitely building to a Luger match with Monsoon giving him a ton of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm29195 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 What people don't seem to remember about the Perfect/Luger stuff is that it was all about Heenan. There's a direct line from Survivor Series 92 to WM9 with Heenan championing Flair, then Razor vs Perfect and finally bringing in Luger to finish the job. Neither here nor there but I saw Perfect's first promo post WMX last night and they were definitely building to a Luger match with Monsoon giving him a ton of crap. What was Perfect's last match in WWF - I don't recall any post Summerslam 1993.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Just wondering about Scott Casey's WWF career. Ever since I first saw the 2nd Survivor Series, he's struck me as an odd one, as I know nothing about him. Every other guy on PPVs of that era had some fleeting moment of fame, or at least cropped up on Colloseum Videos. This guy, I know nothing about. Did he have any minor feuds or wins worth noting? I feel like Scott Casey took the place of S.D. Jones where he was a job guy but a job guy with a name and always looked just good enough to where some people thought he had a chance of winning matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Harms Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share Posted July 24, 2013 What about Ludvig Borga? I've heard in the past that WWF had big plans for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 What people don't seem to remember about the Perfect/Luger stuff is that it was all about Heenan. There's a direct line from Survivor Series 92 to WM9 with Heenan championing Flair, then Razor vs Perfect and finally bringing in Luger to finish the job. Neither here nor there but I saw Perfect's first promo post WMX last night and they were definitely building to a Luger match with Monsoon giving him a ton of crap. What was Perfect's last match in WWF - I don't recall any post Summerslam 1993.... Last televised one I know about was on one of the Survivor Series build shows vs Yoko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 What about Ludvig Borga? I've heard in the past that WWF had big plans for him. I've heard rumors of a planned IC title run, before he got injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I wonder, because he was going to go up against Earthquake at Mania and Earthquake beat Adam Bomb (his replacement) soundly both there and on a following Raw. i think they were building up Quake for a run vs Yoko but I don't feel like looking at the results to find out. Also, Tatanka was absolutely getting his win back at Royal Rumble if that match happened, so yeah. I don't know if Borga wasn't going to be depushed. He wrestled Rick Steiner at the January MSG house show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 What was the original plan for the whole Warrior/Jake/Undertaker story? The vignettes were great.Half of this I read on some dirt sheet somehwere way back when. Other half is just me adding on to it just cuz.1. Warrior would be able to defeat Underatker at a major card because he was able to fight darkness with darkness, courtesy of Jake.2. Jake would then take control of Warrior, because he got so deep into his mind, and Jake would then use him to smash everyone that ever slighted Mister Roberts. So any former feud opponent, anyone that was a smartass on the Snake Pit, any announcer that thought Jake and Damian were creepy, a full half the roster could get way too much Destrucity raining down upon them.3. A returning Hulk Hogan, back from some movie, and The Undertaker have to work together, presumably at Wrestlemania in a tag match. Why? Because only Prayers, Vitamins, a shared laugh on the set of Suburban Commando, and the Power of the Urn could stop The One Snakier Nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Wasn't Earl Hebner orginally supposed to be a random guy that Dibiase paid to get surgery to look like Dave Hebner? Did they ever explain that away or abandon it, or am I supposed to still assume that Earl is that same random dude and that Dave is the only real Hebner? Also, I just watched the Summerslam match where Warrior beat Honky for the IC belt...and it has to be the funniest, funnest moment in history. "I said I'd wrestlen anybody! I didn't say I'd wrestle Warrior!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 What people don't seem to remember about the Perfect/Luger stuff is that it was all about Heenan. There's a direct line from Survivor Series 92 to WM9 with Heenan championing Flair, then Razor vs Perfect and finally bringing in Luger to finish the job. Neither here nor there but I saw Perfect's first promo post WMX last night and they were definitely building to a Luger match with Monsoon giving him a ton of crap. What was Perfect's last match in WWF - I don't recall any post Summerslam 1993.... Last televised one I know about was on one of the Survivor Series build shows vs Yoko. Televised: 290 19.10.1993 Mr. Perfect defeats Iron Mike Sharpe (1:48) WWF Wrestling Challenge #375 @ Civic Center in Glens Falls, New York, USA TV-Show House show: 288 29.10.1993 Mr. Perfect & Razor Ramon defeat Diesel & Irwin R. Schyster WWF House Show @ Nassau Coliseum in Long Island, New York, USA House Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuttsy Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Here is an interesting thing I just learned, Akeem was originally scheduled to be on the Big Bossman's team but no-showed and they put Bad News Brown in the match as a replacement. It wasn't a no-show, Akeem misses like 6 weeks (11/13/89-12/20/89) late in '89 with an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I wonder, because he was going to go up against Earthquake at Mania and Earthquake beat Adam Bomb (his replacement) soundly both there and on a following Raw. i think they were building up Quake for a run vs Yoko but I don't feel like looking at the results to find out. Also, Tatanka was absolutely getting his win back at Royal Rumble if that match happened, so yeah. I don't know if Borga wasn't going to be depushed. He wrestled Rick Steiner at the January MSG house show. I never realised how few televised jobs he did. Pinned at Survivor Series, but still made to look strong, then there was a match with Razor on a Coliseum Video that he lost after a Dusty finish, which was surprisingly good. I remember reading ages ago that Keith History has it that he was going to win the title from 'Taker between the Rumble and Mania 10, and then drop it to Luger at Mania. I don't think this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 May be a minor one, but still one I've always wanted to know about. When and why did Demolition start wearing these masks? Also, how did they explain them going back to Mr. Fuji when it became just Smash and Crush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mco543 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Not sure when they started with the masks, their Hasbro toys came with them, but I'm pretty sure the reason was because they added to their sadomasochistic BDSM look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Not sure when they started with the masks, their Hasbro toys came with them, but I'm pretty sure the reason was because they added to their sadomasochistic BDSM look. The Hasbro toys came with their spiked helmets, not the leather masks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I think the masks came to play to make the switcheroo easier with either the man on the apron or outside. The masks magically made them identical in every way lol. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 May be a minor one, but still one I've always wanted to know about. When and why did Demolition start wearing these masks? Also, how did they explain them going back to Mr. Fuji when it became just Smash and Crush? To differentiate them from the LOD, I assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I think the masks came to play to make the switcheroo easier with either the man on the apron or outside. The masks magically made them identical in every way lol.I They looked more alike than the Bellas do now. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I love this thread so I'm going to ask some more questions haha. Anyone know what the heat was about between Andre and Big John Studd? The new wrestling roundtable said that Andre hated Studd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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