BloodyChamp Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 It still happened lol and gosh knows that wasn’t Flair’s first pop as a heel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 They Horsemen were booked as tweeners for Doom and then were booked as heels after. We're talking booking, not crowd reaction, are we? Flair was consistently booked vs Sting, El Gigante and Pillman for the majority of the first half of 91. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) Flair blading in that Fujinami match is still the most pointless bladejob I've ever seen, and that's saying something. Cheap and desperate tactic to try and inject some drama into a match no one cared for Edited February 13, 2020 by BurningBeard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedbynumbers Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Infinit said: They Horsemen were booked as tweeners for Doom and then were booked as heels after. We're talking booking, not crowd reaction, are we? Flair was consistently booked vs Sting, El Gigante and Pillman for the majority of the first half of 91. this was one of my favorite periods of wrestling. I was a young kid and seeing underdog Pillman vs the Horseman each week was great. Looking back on it as an adult is even better because the good guy didn't always get the win. Wrestle War 91 War Games is one of my favorite matches and the heel team won! WWF would never do something like that but WCW did and it worked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Doom were Tweeners for that feud with the Horsemen too, there was even a match where Sting teamed with (I think) Ron Simmons after Butch Reed no-showed. NWA @ Charlottesville, VA - October 7, 1990 (3,400) The Master Blasters defeated Mike Rotunda & Tim Horner Ricky Morton & Terry Taylor (sub. for Robert Gibson) (w/ Steve Travis) defeated Bobby Eaton & Stan Lane after Travis hit an interfering Jim Cornette, with Taylor then hitting Lane with Cornette's tennis racquet NWA World Champion Sting defeated the Black Scorpion NWA World Champion Sting (sub. for NWA Tag Team Champion Butch Reed, whose father was in the ICU) & NWA Tag Team Champion Ron Simmons defeated Ric Flair & Arn Anderson when Sting pinned Flair And a match I hadn't heard about where Simmons teamed with Luger NWA @ Roanoke, VA - Civic Center - October 11, 1990 (925) Norman defeated the Iron Sheik The Italian Stallion defeated Barry Horowitz Allen Iron Eagle defeated Sgt. Buddy Lee Parker The Junkyard Dog defeated Buddy Landell Ricky Morton & Steve Armstrong defeated Michael Hayes & Jimmy Garvin NWA US Champion Lex Luger defeated Sid Vicious NWA Tag Team Champion Ron Simmons & NWA US Champion Lex Luger (sub. for NWA Tag Team Champion Butch Reed, who flew home to be with his ill father) defeated Ric Flair & WCW TV Champion Arn Anderson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyChamp Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Broadcast WCW TV had been on an extended squash match exclusive streak for a long time until Brian Pillman started wrestling Horsemen members seemingly every week. Definitely gave me a boost as a youngun. Flair/Fujinami from SB was bad. Really bad. Not only was it pointless, Flair goofed the whole thing, and goofing up with the blade is something he never did however bad he got in a few other areas. It’s a shame to because their match from the NJPW/WCW Supershow was good. I’d go as far as to say that it’s in Flair’s top 10 postprime singles matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Did Ron Waterman ever end up on TV at all or was he strictly a dark match guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, Zimbra said: Did Ron Waterman ever end up on TV at all or was he strictly a dark match guy? He never made it to TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 5:06 PM, Happ Hazzard said: Doom were Tweeners for that feud with the Horsemen too, there was even a match where Sting teamed with (I think) Ron Simmons after Butch Reed no-showed. NWA @ Charlottesville, VA - October 7, 1990 (3,400) The Master Blasters defeated Mike Rotunda & Tim Horner Ricky Morton & Terry Taylor (sub. for Robert Gibson) (w/ Steve Travis) defeated Bobby Eaton & Stan Lane after Travis hit an interfering Jim Cornette, with Taylor then hitting Lane with Cornette's tennis racquet NWA World Champion Sting defeated the Black Scorpion NWA World Champion Sting (sub. for NWA Tag Team Champion Butch Reed, whose father was in the ICU) & NWA Tag Team Champion Ron Simmons defeated Ric Flair & Arn Anderson when Sting pinned Flair I was actually at the Charlottesville show. I remember someone threw some candy or something into the ring and it hit Bobby in the face. They had to stop for a minute b/c I think he had something in his eye. Luckily he was ok and they found the idiot who did it and threw him out of the building. Had it been Louisiana or somewhere in the Mid-South territory back in the day, he would've probably have been escorted to the back to have a "talk" with one of the wrestlers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 And I wanna say that Al Perez played the Black Scorpion that night. WIki says that Angel of Death or Jeff Ellis was the one doing the house shows but I thought it was Perez that night just because of the way he moved. I've never seen Jeff Ellis but IIRC, the guy I saw was too small to be AOD. Keep in mind this was 30 years ago and I was only 11 so I could be wrong but I thought it was Perez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I can't seem to find shit on Jeff Ellis - was he the fat Scorpion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 The fat Scorpion was Moondog Rex. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyChamp Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) https://twitter.com/HalHaneyArt/status/1225129535424823297?s=20 What is the 80s southern style mask on the right a reference to? EDIT: The Black Scorpion! I had never actually “seen” The Black Scorpion because we didn’t have cable growing up and he was always in the dark in promos. Edited February 19, 2020 by BloodyChamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, BloodyChamp said: https://twitter.com/HalHaneyArt/status/1225129535424823297?s=20 What is the 80s southern style mask on the right a reference to? The Scorpion? That’s the only 1 I don’t get if it’s not him. Black Scorpion makes the most sense. is Halloween Havoc Windham as Sting on there? Couldn’t tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyChamp Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Yep...guy on Twitter responded actually. He has a ton of cool art btw. I don’t see Barry Sting off the top of my head. Pink and black paint I think it was and there’s some pink on there but no black. Edited February 19, 2020 by BloodyChamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Two of those Stings are packing heat, which is not an aspect of his character that I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyChamp Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Thunder in Paradise and a made for TV movie he was in I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimbra Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Ahh, that makes sense. I didn't know he did any non-wrestling acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, BloodyChamp said: Thunder in Paradise and a made for TV movie he was in I think. I always thought it was stupid when Bischoff referenced the movie and showed a clip of it, when Sting was still the badass guy up in the rafters. Edited February 19, 2020 by PetrolCB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, PetrolCB said: I always thought it was stupid when Bischoff referenced the movie and showed a clip of it, when Sting was still the badass guy up in the rafters. I don't remember it, but that sounds like a Bischoff move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 49 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: I don't remember it, but that sounds like a Bischoff move. I can't find a clip of it, but it's from the November 10th, 1997 episode of Nitro. The night after Montreal, where they all have the Canadian flags. But yeah, totally stupid thing to bring up or show. Damaged the mystique a month before killing Sting's build all together. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyChamp Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Overshadowed by the single worst show, match and moment in wrestling history imo - Starrcade 97 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Was that Shutterspeed or a later one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Can a show with Malenko/Guerrero on it really be the worst show ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, RolandTHTG said: Was that Shutterspeed or a later one? "The Real Reason (Men Commit Crimes)". Edited February 19, 2020 by PetrolCB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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