Tromatagon Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 I'm glad it wasn't adhered to, it was fucking stupid. Why even make the match? Same with Hogan/Warrior being "title for title" - why would Hogan even want the IC title? Why would they want someone to be double champion if they'd have to give up the belt? Part of me always thought it was done that way to try and make people think they'd do some screwy draw or DQ/Countout finish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 There was a period where they kept going back to the well of the champion and the number one contender being unlikely tag champions, which is I guess one reason they didn't adhere to those rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, Tromatagon said: I'm glad it wasn't adhered to, it was fucking stupid. Why even make the match? Same with Hogan/Warrior being "title for title" - why would Hogan even want the IC title? Why would they want someone to be double champion if they'd have to give up the belt? Part of me always thought it was done that way to try and make people think they'd do some screwy draw or DQ/Countout finish. Crown a new champ, transition the lesser belt(s) to another person(team) without having the former champ(s) drop the belt(s) to keep them strong. In the case of the Warrior, it got the IC belt off him without having to drop it to Henning, keeping him strong heading into the Hogan match (Warrior having already traded the belt with Rude earlier notwithstanding). No idea what the hell was the reasoning with Pedro/Backlund winning the tag belts since they went right back on the Samoans anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 No I mean kayfabe reasoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 On 2/19/2018 at 12:48 AM, Shibata Is My Homie said: How would Owen Hart's career have ended up if he never passed? I think he would have retired and never cam back because he was really just trying to make as much money as possible and get out to be with his family. Plus his wife didn't want him wrestling anymore. Seemed like the dude would have been one of the guys to just leave it in the past. Maybe come back for a HOF or DVD thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Yeah, I read somewhere that he wanted to do two or three more years then retire to be a teacher. It's really sad he didn't have a chance to do that due to what happened to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Bret's book said Owen wanted to be a firefighter, but never got accepted by the Calgary FD, and that is why he kept wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Should have been given a firefighter gimmick. In the attitude era he'd have been a sexy stripping firefighter, but refuse to because he was a heel which would get him cheered by the ECW lite fanbase who are afraid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Firebreaker Owen? Would he be from Stampede Special Forces? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surprisingly Sincere Man Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 What were the circumstances that led to Alundra Blayze leaving WWF with the title? Wikipedia just says that she was released from her contract due to the company being in financial difficulties. How come they never actually took the title (both the championship and the physical belt) off her first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I think they just scrapped the division and didn't have any plans for the title going forward. Her actual release was supposedly amicable and she was on fine terms with them until she threw out the belt on Nitro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I thought I remember reading somewhere that along with the eventual Alundra/Nitro ordeal, the two Joshi-style matches at Survivor Series and the following night a few weeks prior scared Vince off. I’m probably wrong. Before all of that, wasn’t Blayze/Kong supposed to happen at the ‘96 Rumble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 4 hours ago, (BP) said: I think they just scrapped the division and didn't have any plans for the title going forward. Her actual release was supposedly amicable and she was on fine terms with them until she threw out the belt on Nitro. Exactly right! WCW released they had a golden opportunity to stick it to VKM and Blayze/Miceli went along with the idea as she had no intention of working for WWF again. She wasn't planning in being in WCW for the long haul either, she wanted to drive monster trucks (which she wound up doing, I seem to recall she was pretty good at it. She's also released a CD of songs sung in Japanese and owns a doggy bakery in Florida named Kool Kats & Hot Dogs and also runs a pet spa. An interesting person to say the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I think the Monster Truck thing came up later, after she was in WCW and they had a sponsored truck. She got a chance to drive it, fell in love, etc etc. Way she tells the story, Eric didn't exactly tell her that her getting the job depended on her bringing the belt, but she got enough of that impression that she agreed. And, you have to remember, WWF wasn't doing real well in 95. Vince hadn't had the success he hoped for with the women's division (honestly, I'm not sure anyone other than Madusa was even under contract) so he decided to drop it, let her know, and didn't really think about what she might do with the belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 the real shame is that Madusa never held the WCW womens title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Feel like this was addressed on the JBL interview. Can't remember the circumstances, but from what I recall, she ended up practically homeless after her divorce, Vince gave her a huge loan, and then she fucked him over on something minor. It was a really awkward part in the interview where she doesn't bat an eyelid over talking about this guy who saved her from living on the streets, gave her six figures, something happened, so she stuck it to him by turning up on Nitro. She seems completely nuts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 At the time did they ever explain any of the background of the Survivor Series 95 match or was "Bertha and Blaze found a couple of random women to team with" the extent of it? I barely remember it being advertised and having no idea who any of the other women were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, HumanChessgame said: At the time did they ever explain any of the background of the Survivor Series 95 match or was "Bertha and Blaze found a couple of random women to team with" the extent of it? I barely remember it being advertised and having no idea who any of the other women were. They were going to do a talent exchange and, like I mentioned a few posts ago, Kong/Blayze was gonna be featured at the ‘96 Rumble. But the stiffness of the Japanese women and Alundra being a shit head ruined it. Which is why they canned a women’s division until Sable came into prominence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I was watching an ep of NWA Pro on Youtube from June 1986 and Jimmy Garvin was teaming with Steve Regal. How long were they a team in the NWA after their AWA run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Not long. Regal came into Crockett around May and had already moved to jobber duties in the WWF by September. I think he only teamed with Jimmy in June and July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H. Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 "Mr. Electricity" Steve Regal came in around May, joined Garven and Precious, won the NWA Jr strap from Denny brown like right before or 1st week of The Bash and then dropped it right after the Bash (like same week they announced RnR regaining the tag straps from the MX). It was a quick run and Regal's WWF run wasn't that long either as I recall. Like he was headlining Windy City shows by the next summer I think James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 So we've talked about the venue change for Wrestlemania VII before, but how come Hogan and Slaughter didn't work their Desert Storm gimmick match in the main event and saved it for house shows afterward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 hours ago, CreativeControl said: So we've talked about the venue change for Wrestlemania VII before, but how come Hogan and Slaughter didn't work their Desert Storm gimmick match in the main event and saved it for house shows afterward? I would guess they didn't believe in doing gimmick matches for the main event then. Later, they resisted the idea of multi man matches on top until 2000, so I'm thinking there was some notion of the "integrity" of what a WM main event should be. It's probably for the best. If they had venue problems already, Hogan cutting those promos about the Iraqis rigging the kids seats with chemical weapons wasn't going to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Tag match at 1, cage at 2, tournament finals at 4. Wasn't without precedent for its time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Something I just realized. Was there anything more WCW than the fact that they had a pay-per-view named after a season in Fall Brawl, but it never actually occurred in fall? It was always the waning days of summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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