Log Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 On 1/17/2017 at 0:40 AM, username said: Okay, this is an odd one and it is more about this site than the match itself. I recall reading on this site ages ago, possibly in one of the actual DVDVRs, someone breaking down an early 90s Freebirds with Badstreet 6 person tag in depth. What I recall was them discussing the early part of the match where that even though the Freebirds had virtually no offense they were in control as they controlled the pace and never let the faces string any sort of offense together. Does anyone else recall this, and if so is it still up here anywhere? I wanted to show it to someone. I think the match is from Bash 91. Dustin and The Young Pistols against the Birds. I remember reading that too. May have been on a Dustin of the Day write-up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Thank you, that was enough info for me to track down a salvaged version of the write-up Phil put up on prowrestlingonly a few years back. If anyone else wanted to read it, faulty formatting and all. http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/18571-fabulous-freebirds-badstreet-vs-young-pistols-dustin-rhodes-wcw-saturday-night-061591/#entry5541937 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I was listening to one of Pritchard's podcasts and he mentioned how much Vince loved the Johnny B Badd character in the early 90s and how he said he could make a ton of money with him. Obviously Wild Man Marc Mero got a decent push when he came in, do you think that push would've continued if Mero hadn't had to go for knee surgery and change his whole style/gimmick? I think Sable was always gonna outshine him just because of the way the business was going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarl Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 From all accounts, "Wildman" Marc Mero was set for a huge push. He was one of the first, if not THE first, guaranteed contracts Vince ever put together for anybody. It was a huge point Mick Foley made several times in pretty much every one of his books when talking about when he signed with them, as he was told they didn't do guaranteed contracts, and then the next guy they sign - Marc Mero - gets a big figure guaranteed contract. And I believe Austin has also mentioned about how he would see a ton merch in the works for guys like Mero and Mark Henry, but none for him. So, yeah, I think Mero's knee injury cost him millions of dollars and a push to the top of the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Imagine....Mero 316- I just slapped your booty!!!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 So assuming Mero stayed healthy and never needed the surgery, what kind of ceiling does he have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 12 minutes ago, HumanChessgame said: So assuming Mero stayed healthy and never needed the surgery, what kind of ceiling does he have? 2, maybe 3 time IC champion. His last reign gets ended by the newly arrived Y2J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 You always hear about how Vince wanted to recreate Hogan with a bunch of guys in the mid 90s. I think he wanted to recreate Savage and Liz with Sable and Mero. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Mero was clearly meant to be the next Savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Wyld Samurai said: Mero was clearly meant to be the next Savage. Oh, give me a break. Wrestlemania XIV proves otherwise. Sable was the star, Mero's injury only prolonged what was about to happen anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Yeah, that's kinda what I meant with the way the business was going - any potential push to superstardom would've been potentially outshined by the rise of Sable. Plus it was almost like he was presented as a bit of a choker before his injury as he kept losing IC title matches culminating in a 'last ever shot' match... which he lost IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 When "Wildman " Marc Mero debuted, Sable was escorting Hunter Hearst Helmsley to the ring and giving Jerry Lawler heart palpitations. Nobody knew who she was, and we all figured she was a forgotten playboy playmate they dragged up like Shae Marks. Wildman was given the flashy sequin, the eye candy, and the unpredictable attitude of Savage. He just lacked that edge.... and then he blew his knee out and became a boxer. I was a big Johnny B Badd fan. He had a lot of promise coming into the WWE, but he came in, then got injured at the same time that Austin began his rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Big Show complains on one of Austin's podcasts about Mero making more than him in WCW when Show was main eventing. Everyone hates that he made money for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I wonder how much of the Mero hate stems from his salary, or if he was just an insufferable prick to everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 8 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: Big Show complains on one of Austin's podcasts about Mero making more than him in WCW when Show was main eventing. Everyone hates that he made money for whatever reason. The Giant didn't make his in ring debut before Mero left for the WWF, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Both of them fought at Halloween Havoc and World War 3 in '95. Maybe some Nitro's too, but I'm not too sure about those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 You're right. I totally remember JBB being gone around when Vader left. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 8 hours ago, PetrolCB said: I wonder how much of the Mero hate stems from his salary, or if he was just an insufferable prick to everybody. I've never heard that he was a jerk. To me, it's always seemed like some people were jealous of his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Mero was the first guy to get a big money guaranteed deal from Vince in the MNW era. He was in the right place at the right time, and got resented for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEN! Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Sounds like he should've quit telling everybody how much money he was making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Worked for the Kliq. Not saying it's right. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 People were probably jealous he was banging Sable who was a hot piece, and that he wouldn't share her like DDP and Bischoff would their wives. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Maybe it's because you perceive things differently when you are a kid but I thought Johnny B. Badd was a huge star in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 8 hours ago, Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 said: People were probably jealous he was banging Sable who was a hot piece, and that he wouldn't share her like DDP and Bischoff would their wives. . In fairness, the only reason I knew Marc Mero wasn't popular was that Mick Foley used the Mean Street Posse as a code word for Mero in his books. And Foley wrote that while married to a woman so attractive, WCW refused to put her camera thinking that nobody would believe that was his actual wife. Pretty sure the Mero hatred escalated from the Foley books. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I assume he used all the money he made on his face in the 2000s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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