mco543 1,382 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Journalism and literature are both dead. They had a solid run. Link to post Share on other sites
Spontaneous 1,176 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Welp there goes any potential for a shred of respect I could have had for civilization. Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick B. 1,413 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Haven't had that in a long time. I took journalism classes in college...good to know I wasted my time. Link to post Share on other sites
Zakk_Sabbath 3,221 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I thought I took a journalism class in college, but it was really just a fat chick from the hardcore scene disguised as an ad-hoc professor teaching us how to photoshop shit. I dropped out shortly thereafter edit: she was married and had no interest in me, before anyone says it Link to post Share on other sites
BEN! 1,968 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Guys, if you are a writer and are annoyed at the Scott Keith thing...don't click this: http://defamer.gawker.com/young-writer-earns-six-figures-with-erotic-one-directio-1592782576/+laceydonohue It's not just a wrestling bubble thing. The world has given up. The story took off instantly, gaining more than 800 million reads, and leading to fan-generated art and playlists on Twitter and Instagram. 800 million!?! Pretty sure Scott Keith ain't getting close to a billion anything. Really, the most disturbing aspect of the whole deal is the author being 25. That seems kinda old for One Direction fanfic. Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan 6,045 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Well, all that Fifty Shades shit started off as Twilight fanfic if I remember, so anything horrible is possible. That woman's worth more money than you ever want to know. Link to post Share on other sites
Petey 333 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I went to school at a college here on Long Island and was a journalism major originally (2009). A lot of the journalism professors were former Newsday (the big Long Island newspaper) reporters/editors. Most of them were like, "just so you guys know, the newspaper medium is really dying and it'll be more difficult than it used to be to get a job." So I switched to being a history major and now work at a radio station. So yeah. Journalism=dead. Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan 6,045 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 *points at TV "news"* End of subject. Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 544 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I could've been a damn fine movie critic. Le sigh.... Link to post Share on other sites
HumanChessgame 2,610 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Creative just has nothing for journalism these days. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Antacular 402 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 FACT: I don't know who One Direction is. Link to post Share on other sites
offspring515 1,626 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 FACT: I don't know who One Direction is. N*Sync found a time machine. And I think became British. Link to post Share on other sites
sydneybrown 2,344 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 More gold for all you Bryan Alvarez haters: he was supposed to review Clash of the Champions I on a recent podcast, but he accidentally watched Clash IV, never once questioning the entire time that he might be watching the wrong show and fully accepted that Ric Flair vs. Bobby Eaton was the main event of the very first Clash. The author of The Death of WCW apparently had no idea that the 45 minute Sting/Ric Flair match headlined The Clash of the Champions, arguably one of the biggest shows in Crockett history. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Petey 333 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 That's terrible. I understand that Bryan doesn't have Dave's wrestling knowledge or know about the history like a lot of posters here, but how do you not realize that Flair/Eaton wasn't the first Clash's main event? I wasn't even a year old when that show aired and I've known forever that Sting/Flair was the big match at the first Clash and I'm certainly not a wrestling historian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Buy Me a Burrito 1,293 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Man, I hate Alvarez. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BillThompson 70 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 It's even more damning in this day and age when one can just open up Cagematch and find the card for any of the Clashes. Link to post Share on other sites
Niners Fan in CT 15,319 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 It's pretty fucking indefensible really.. everyone knows the main event of WrestleMania III was Hogan and Andre. If you were any kind of fan of WCW you know about Sting/Flair. Hell, it's mentioned a ton of times on their documentaries also. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
rovert 216 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 You lads are taking this way too seriously. He never has claimed to be a historian. Link to post Share on other sites
BillThompson 70 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 More gold for all you Bryan Alvarez haters: he was supposed to review Clash of the Champions I on a recent podcast, but he accidentally watched Clash IV, never once questioning the entire time that he might be watching the wrong show and fully accepted that Ric Flair vs. Bobby Eaton was the main event of the very first Clash. The author of The Death of WCW apparently had no idea that the 45 minute Sting/Ric Flair match headlined The Clash of the Champions, arguably one of the biggest shows in Crockett history. I imagine Alvarez is defending his stupidity by calling everyone on the F4W boards who points out his stupidity a nerd. Link to post Share on other sites
rovert 216 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 More gold for all you Bryan Alvarez haters: he was supposed to review Clash of the Champions I on a recent podcast, but he accidentally watched Clash IV, never once questioning the entire time that he might be watching the wrong show and fully accepted that Ric Flair vs. Bobby Eaton was the main event of the very first Clash. The author of The Death of WCW apparently had no idea that the 45 minute Sting/Ric Flair match headlined The Clash of the Champions, arguably one of the biggest shows in Crockett history. I imagine Alvarez is defending his stupidity by calling everyone on the F4W boards who points out his stupidity a nerd. Not really just he didn't write the first half of The Death of WCW RD Reynolds did. Bryan just covered the Monday Night Wars. Link to post Share on other sites
BillThompson 70 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 You lads are taking this way too seriously. He never has claimed to be a historian. He's a paid wrestling writer who wrote a book about the death of WCW, lives in an age where he has instant WCW historical information at his fingertips, and is partners with possibly the foremost historian in the business, there's no excuse for him consistently knowing jack all abut the history to the topic he is paid to cover. Link to post Share on other sites
rovert 216 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 You lads are taking this way too seriously. He never has claimed to be a historian. He's a paid wrestling writer who wrote a book about the death of WCW, lives in an age where he has instant WCW historical information at his fingertips, and is partners with possibly the foremost historian in the business, there's no excuse for him consistently knowing jack all abut the history to the topic he is paid to cover. There's no need to do that with Dave on "staff" and his site is successful regardless.The idea he hasn't been exposed to this information before is rather crazy just his memory is notoriously horrible. Link to post Share on other sites
BillThompson 70 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 He consistently shows a lack of understanding of even the current product he watches. I like Meltzer, always have, I greatly respect what he does both as a reporter and a historian of pro wrestling. His relationship with Alavarez has always been an albatross around his neck, damaging his credibility at every turn. Alvarez doesn't know wrestling history, he's unable to keep up with what the present day product offers, and when he did write it was rather insipid and of a very low quality. Link to post Share on other sites
rovert 216 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 He consistently shows a lack of understanding of even the current product he watches. I like Meltzer, always have, I greatly respect what he does both as a reporter and a historian of pro wrestling. His relationship with Alavarez has always been an albatross around his neck, damaging his credibility at every turn. Alvarez doesn't know wrestling history, he's unable to keep up with what the present day product offers, and when he did write it was rather insipid and of a very low quality. Don't know what to tell you. Bryan only does what he wants and he has been very successful at it. Link to post Share on other sites
Beast 11 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 More gold for all you Bryan Alvarez haters: he was supposed to review Clash of the Champions I on a recent podcast, but he accidentally watched Clash IV, never once questioning the entire time that he might be watching the wrong show and fully accepted that Ric Flair vs. Bobby Eaton was the main event of the very first Clash. The author of The Death of WCW apparently had no idea that the 45 minute Sting/Ric Flair match headlined The Clash of the Champions, arguably one of the biggest shows in Crockett history. And somehow you mistyped Flair vs. Eaton when the Clash IV main event was Horsemen vs. Midnights. Guess we all make mistakes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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