Raziel Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 I'd rather tach TNA over listening to Foreigner, but I am in my mid twenties so... Yeah. Honestly, I think Jeff Hardy fans and the diehard anti WWE fans are the only ones left. I'll check to see what Spud and EC3 do his Sunday but beyond that, who cares? This company won't die no matter what. Nuclear war could break out, Impact will still draw that .9 every Thursday. I'm the same age range and I'd pick Foreigner/Styx over TNA. Is it safe that TNA has the worst national wrestling product put out in the last 25 years? This crap makes WWF and WCW at their worst look like must-see TV. The Abrams UWF is probably a contender, though at least Herbie actually promoted his promotion. Getting Doc on The Tonight Show was a stroke of genius. At least the UWF was fun to watch as a trainwreck. TNA is like watching a relative slowly die. I've had more fun watching Relative's slowly die. 1
The Nature Boy Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 I'd rather tach TNA over listening to Foreigner, but I am in my mid twenties so... Yeah. Honestly, I think Jeff Hardy fans and the diehard anti WWE fans are the only ones left. I'll check to see what Spud and EC3 do his Sunday but beyond that, who cares? This company won't die no matter what. Nuclear war could break out, Impact will still draw that .9 every Thursday. I'm the same age range and I'd pick Foreigner/Styx over TNA. Is it safe that TNA has the worst national wrestling product put out in the last 25 years? This crap makes WWF and WCW at their worst look like must-see TV. The Abrams UWF is probably a contender, though at least Herbie actually promoted his promotion. Getting Doc on The Tonight Show was a stroke of genius. At least the UWF was fun to watch as a trainwreck. TNA is like watching a relative slowly die. I've had more fun watching Relative's slowly die. I can't wait for Vince to buy TNA. I'm sure the "Fall and Perpetual Decline of TNA" DVD will be a riot. 1
Cole Miner Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Is it safe that TNA has the worst national wrestling product put out in the last 25 years? This crap makes WWF and WCW at their worst look like must-see TV. No need to limit the debate to worst national wrestling product. Impact is in the argument for the worst television show ever. At least for shows that somehow managed to stay on the air over a year.
BEN! Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Impact's better than Total Divas (at least the second season) and it's not as bad as shit like Two And A Half Men. So they got that going for them, I guess. Maybe if you add Lockdown, Sacrifice, and however many One Night Only PPVs were released this year together you can get to 6K buys. No way they've gotten 6K for any one show though. When it comes to the WWE Network, I think a lot of wrestling fans have just seriously overestimated how many people want to watch wrestling all the time, especially when it requires more than just turning the TV on.
Brian Fowler Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Is Impact worse than late days Thunder? Is anyone brave enough to try and do a full comparison?
Spontaneous Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 So the lone episode of "Heil Honey I'm Home" or the last episode of Impact, which do they non stop in Hell?
The Nature Boy Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 So the lone episode of "Heil Honey I'm Home" or the last episode of Impact, which do they non stop in Hell? Impact - you have to actually watch their plots develop.
Spontaneous Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 I like the rumors that Vince and Kevin Dunn dislike the new talents like Bo Dallas and Paige. Nothing says out of touch more than that.
MoeCristyV.1.6 Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 Wasn't it Adam Rose that they don't like. And I find it hilarious, that they don't wanna write a good storyline for Paige, because she's not over...I mean...that's what storylines are for...
Victator Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 Divas have a hard time getting over when positioned as the champion. The division for years has been AJ and then a bunch of interchangeable, awful parts. If Alicia Fox can get over with this gimmick without needing the title to do so, it's a really great step in adding depth to the division. AJ did a promo burying the division as worthless, which buried her as a paper champion. Then Paige got a fluke win on the paper champion and is having to defend the title against the same group of worthless losers.
Petey Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 Allegedly Kevin Dunn really likes Alicia Fox and it seems like a lot of us here also like Alicia Fox, so maybe we have similar wrestling interests as Kevin Dunn. But yeah, apparently Vince and Dunn are down on Adam Rose and Paige. I haven't watched NXT aside from Arrival and Takeover, but the Rose vignettes did nothing for me and having Cole dancing along hasn't helped. I just don't understand why he's a professional wrestler. I think Bo Dallas is fine but the gimmick isn't getting over quick because it was based around him originally being a babyface, not getting over and then becoming delusional about it. That's a pretty big part of the character's evolution that they've just skipped on Raw. As for Paige, I think she's a fine wrestler and I've enjoyed some of her matches, but she's completely directionless and while I might get heat for this, I'm not digging Alica Fox's character or their feud.
Matt D Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 The best theory I heard (think it was Loss at PWO) is that HHH and Dunn are at WAR for the future of the company's soul, which mainly amounts to Dunn seeing the writing on the wall and trying to preemptively shit on everything coming up out of NXT. 1
MORELOCK Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 Why is it surprising that Vince and Dunn aren't into Paige? She has no character and does nothing. Good matches are irrelevant in WWE.
Joe Fixit Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 Aren't they supposed to give her something to do?
Matt D Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 Especially, when, you know, we've SEEN evidence of her having a character over the last year on a week to week basis.
MORELOCK Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 We've all seen the WWE line of reasoning being "take the shit we give you and make it something great," which she hasn't. She's had limited promo time and been boring and her matches, while clearly more technically sound than the rest of the divas, haven't been anything special enough to gain the interest of the crowd. You could say she "should" be given more, but you could say that about nearly the entire roster. I might be being a little hard on her, but the lack of anything interesting happening with the Divas is glaring after seeing what AJ was able to do before she left.
Petey Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 I legitimately have no idea what she could really be expected to do. I'm not one to suggest that the wrestlers should always be totally absolved of the blame and that it should go 100% on creative, but she really hasn't had any type of a storyline to work with, aside from working a few matches against Alicia Fox and even in those, it's Fox who is the one who has been given something. Aside from her debut, I don't think Paige has really been put in a position to get over and I don't really see how anyone else with the same booking would really do any better.
JonnyLaw Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 I can see why Vince and Dunn don't like her. It's like she's not even trying to be a diva... almost like she's an... anti-diva?
hammerva Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 "I guarantee you that the Brazilian steak house will be better than IMPACT" - best TNA burial ever
DanBeard Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 Is Impact worse than late days Thunder? Is anyone brave enough to try and do a full comparison? Thunder was part of a greater "Oh WCW, you're just so demented that it's almost delightful" arc. Impact is a standalone carambolage of fail.
JonnyLaw Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 If you can believe Bischoff on Austin's podcast, Thunder was a show they didn't want to do (and it showed). Impact is the flagship show.
Spontaneous Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 I can't wait for Trips to kick Dunn out the door, hasn't he before stated he doesn't even like wrestling yet is a major part of the largest wrestling company ever? There has been nothing for Paige to do and Adam Rose was brought in as some happy go lucky face when he should have been an aloof heel who interrupted matches with his obnoxious antics. Instead he was given the Cole Bump, similar to the Colbert Bump except that the Cole Bump, in this case dancing along with Rose, negatively impacts your popularity. He has a chantable theme and a punch able face/attitude, do something with it! I am positive they wanted Emma to fail, another case of people paid to write failing to write jack all for her to do. It should be an easy crowd pop for Emma's dance and instead we have this awkward pairing with Santino.
ebbie Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 How many times do people have to bring up that Emma looks like she does NOT want to fucking be there? Don't give me that "It's Santino" crap. She got to be in segments that introduces her to the crowd and got endorsed on air by a guy who work the crowd just as good as anyone else on the show. They TRIED to get her over compared to many of the other divas who just have "another day, another match" booking. If your apathetic towards your gimmick, it is super easy for the crowd to pick up on it.
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