Fat Spanish Waiter Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Phantom Lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Don't buy that. I know Valiant is often credited with brilliance for figuring out how to sell merch as heel (45 records that fans would break in front of him and dip in his blood, etc). But faces giving heels a cut, suggests way to much honor among thieves for me to accept. Is there a heel in the professional wrestling today that can get this kind of reaction? In fact,what does one need to do to work the smarter than thou indy crowd and stir up some real distaste? You can make a case for Bo Dallas. After they turned him in NXT, you still had fans chanting "No More Bo!" and turning their backs on him (the smarkiest of smarky reactions) which just played even further into his deluded heel who thinks he's a face act. I bet they could have sold anti-Bo shirts to that (albeitly small) audience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallacy! Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Jesus, that Cena/Bray Wyatt/Eminem video is just perfect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonL21 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Probably my favorite Daniel Bryan moment of the last year. The genuine excitement of the crowd was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I think a thing that's missing from wrestling today is the moral outrage that an announcer would have when bad guys were trying to cripple the good guy. Like could you imagine Michael Cole announce Memphis studio wrestling when some face was was getting left in a pool of blood on the floor? It just wouldn't work. But Lance Russel taking the ring hammer and telling Tojo Yamamoto that he might kill him, but he'll get a good lick in before he does. It's all about narrative and in today's age of every minute detail being scripted just kills that. No one knows how to improvise and roll with the crowds. Cena and Punk can, but other than that if anyone really gets hated by a crowd these days it's pure luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I think a thing that's missing from wrestling today is the moral outrage that an announcer would have when bad guys were trying to cripple the good guy. Like could you imagine Michael Cole announce Memphis studio wrestling when some face was was getting left in a pool of blood on the floor? It just wouldn't work. But Lance Russel taking the ring hammer and telling Tojo Yamamoto that he might kill him, but he'll get a good lick in before he does. It's all about narrative and in today's age of every minute detail being scripted just kills that. No one knows how to improvise and roll with the crowds. Cena and Punk can, but other than that if anyone really gets hated by a crowd these days it's pure luck. I don't even fix my own spelling or grammar And I can't for the life of me remember who the fuck PL is Godspeed, laddo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Oh, I don't read those 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 The tl;dr version of that Phantom Lord post is basically 'Who trolls the trollmen?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Along those lines, who cuts the hair of the barber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Randy Savage and Sherri Martel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick32 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Was at the Atlantic City WWE house show last night. Dean Ambrose played Ricky Morton in a Shield vs Wyatts six-man and it was fucking glorious. By the end of the match, he was probably the most-over babyface on the card besides Bryan and Reigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 It's all about narrative and in today's age of every minute detail being scripted just kills that. No one knows how to improvise and roll with the crowds. Cena and Punk can, but other than that if anyone really gets hated by a crowd these days it's pure luck. I think this was a big problem a few years ago, but not as much anymore. Most of the guys in prominent roles now are very good adapting to live crowds. Cena, Bryan, HHH, The Shield, The Wyatts, Kane, and Cesaro all adapt pretty well on the fly. Orton, Batista, and Sheamus are the only ones who have trouble, although Orton can still knock one out of the park once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I'm curious what you can point to as an example of the Shield and the Wyatts "adapting pretty well on the fly". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonL21 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Nikki Bella appears on the ElvisDuran.com Road to WrestleMania XXX podcast. Nikki mentions that Bray Wyatt apologized backstage before he went out and called her plastic on last week's RAW in his promo at John Cena. Nikki added that everyone popped big for the comment backstage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Captain Mike raised his kids well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Bray Wyatt totally spoiled Total Divas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Anybody want a free Big Show dvd? I got an extra one, just PM me your address. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 random: they didn't have Bob Barker interact with any Samoans when he hosted RAW, right? just thought of that because it would have been hilariously obscure to reference Samoan women throwing Bob Barker around in the 80s on a 2009 WWE Raw well, Bob Barker is still alive, and Tamina is close enough to Samoan, so there's a chance of it in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Whoever isn't watching the WRESTLER'S COURT arc on The JBL And Cole Show, you need to. We're talking TNT Show levels of anarchy and ridiculousness. And I mean that as a compliment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Whoever isn't watching the WRESTLER'S COURT arc on The JBL And Cole Show, you need to. We're talking TNT Show levels of anarchy and ridiculousness. And I mean that as a compliment. MAH UNCLE JOHN RASSLED THIS BEAR!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Someone mentioned wrestler's court? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n4zMT8c5_g 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Ambrose interview here: I probably don’t have any more of a bigger following on the Internet than anybody else does, I just probably have a stranger one. I don’t know where that comes from. Maybe it’s just the kind of person I attract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Double Post. But anyway, Whoever isn't watching the WRESTLER'S COURT arc on The JBL And Cole Show, you need to. We're talking TNT Show levels of anarchy and ridiculousness. And I mean that as a compliment. I'm still playing catch up. I'm on 66, and it's all probably the best thing WWE's done in the last year. Vince can't have any idea they're doing it. 98% of the board should be watching these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I had a dream last night I was trying to steal old discontinued Lego from the Sears I used to work at but a T Rex was hunting me across time. It actually caught me for once but I morphed into Brock Lesnar and butchered it. I want to be Brock Lesnar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 I want to be Brock Lesnar Nothing is stopping you from getting a giant penis tattooed on your chest 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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