Ryan Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 The only watchable scaffold match I've ever seen is JT Smith vs. the Dark Patriot in ECW. It wasn't great by any stretch of the imagination, but they weren't afraid to do some stuff. Bill Dundee and Sweet Brown Sugar Never seen that one. Is it on Youtube or Dailymotion? NM, found it on Youtube. Will report on it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I liked the Dreamer/Brian Lee Scaffold match in ECW a decent amount. Possibly because over half the match is them brawling on the floor before they climbed up the scaffold, and then they had all the tables in the ring to break the fall (and look really cool) so they weren't completely petrified to move up there. Of course, my reasons it didn't suck compared to other scaffold matches is because they did things to make it not a scaffold match... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I've never seen the complete Grimes-New Jack scaffold match (only the infamous clip that everyone's seen) but those two fuckers are insane enough that I imagine they probably did some spots on the scaffold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisco Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 You say the midnights didn't want to be up there but that was the third scaffold match Bobby Eaton was involved in and he would go on to work one more at the GAB 91. There is another Midnight/RNR scaffold match on the Mid South 80s project set. I doubt it is their preferred match but they had seemingly had no issue doing the match multiple times throughout their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMN Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Jim Cornette just did an AMA on reddit. [–]DixieCarterPresident 104 points 2 hours ago Hey darlin. Who was your nicest boss and why was it Dixie Carter? [–]jimcornette[S] 124 points 2 hours ago I have had a lot of GREAT wrestling bosses like Watts, Dusty, Jerry Jarrett, etc--NICEST boss I ever had was Cary Silkin--I considered Jeff Jarrett my boss in TNA and Dixie was there because she had a rich Daddy, darlin-- [–]DixieCarterPresident 98 points 2 hours ago I'm not the biggest Cornette fan, as over the years I've found his outbursts to be really repetitive and whiny, but that right there is comedy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Rex-n-effeckx Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Scaffold matches drew well and work really well live.I think with better video equipment or editing both the MX scaffold matches from Mid South could work well on TV. But it's something that doesn't translate that well to taped audience ( blindfold matches which demand live participation as audience tells face which way the heel is are also something that gets over live but is worthless on tape), and with the equipment that they had really doesn't come across.The Don Greene v Jerry Jarrrett scaffold match I think still works on tape.As does the Dundee v Sweet Brown Sugar.The El Profe v Chicky Starr also translates to tape well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Question: If you can give Jim Herd and Vince Russo credit for anything what would it be? Answer: Hopefully dying soon. Cornette is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillThompson Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Who would be the top female wrestlers in the world right now. In the world, I'm not sure.. but WWE it has to be either Paige or Emma. I'll have to give them another shot sometime. I made it about three minutes into their Arrival match and had to turn it off. Super sloppy transitions and moving like a snail to try to make up for not being able to do smooth transitions did not impress me very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Question: If you can give Jim Herd and Vince Russo credit for anything what would it be? Answer: Hopefully dying soon. Cornette is awesome. Jesus. Jim Herd was almost a quarter century ago. Get over it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 He was asked about him and he answered.Fuck Jim Herd, he killed WCW right out of the gate. When Ricky Steamboat and Barry Windham call someone an asshole 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsewhite Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 ...then they are an asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I hope we get some WAR-esque randomness out of a 6 man tag title division. The over the top contraption in CZW's Cage of Death 5 was the most watchable scaffold match I've seen, although I have no idea how well that match holds up. Perhaps I'll pop the tape in later. Davey Richards and Teddy Hart need to have a scaffold match and do an indy respect spot on top of it. Then Davey can no-sell the floor bump followed by Teddy doing 3 moonsaults off of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafkonia Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2014/0316/572262/former-wcw-star-rips-john-cena-sickening-repetitive-matches/ John Cena is "sickening" according to Scotty Riggs. Related news: Scotty Riggs is still alive. But what does Sickboy think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Fine, Jim Herd's an asshole. Great. He's also been out of the business for over two decades. The company he ran hasn't even existed for well over a decade. And yet he still lives rent-free in Cornette's head. It's just not healthy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Bugg Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I'm watching ROH TV from this past week. What in the hell was Philly chanting when Adam Cole did his promo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Rex-n-effeckx Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 RVD's rolling senton works a lot better as a post match taunt than as an actual piece of offense.http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshha1XGyD6Bof35s87P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kronos Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 RVD's rolling senton works a lot better as a post match taunt than as an actual piece of offense. http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshha1XGyD6Bof35s87P Haha well-done, Kid. I am a little bit worried about this being a fight, though, which every kid in the neighborhood chose to watch and film. Maybe it was a work all along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kronos Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Random: Orndorff has been publically bitter about his perceived place in Rasslin History. I am watching some 1984 WWF today. Orndorff is certainly good. He had a great physique, too. But I feel like he lacks a certain spark which would put him within the all-time greats. People like Hogan needed a guy like him to work off. But it doesn't mean Orndorff is at Hogan's level. It got me to thinking. Who would be in the same place today? Someone who was decent enough, who could work Main Event and Upper-Midcard matches adequately. But who just isn't quite there when it comes to calling him a superstar. Kane, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Jim Cornette just did an AMA on reddit. [–]DixieCarterPresident 104 points 2 hours ago Hey darlin. Who was your nicest boss and why was it Dixie Carter? [–]jimcornette[S] 124 points 2 hours ago I have had a lot of GREAT wrestling bosses like Watts, Dusty, Jerry Jarrett, etc--NICEST boss I ever had was Cary Silkin--I considered Jeff Jarrett my boss in TNA and Dixie was there because she had a rich Daddy, darlin-- [–]DixieCarterPresident 98 points 2 hours ago I'm not the biggest Cornette fan, as over the years I've found his outbursts to be really repetitive and whiny, but that right there is comedy. His angry man schtick works better in print than audio or video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 You just say that because of your anti-Southern bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 RVD's rolling senton works a lot better as a post match taunt than as an actual piece of offense. http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshha1XGyD6Bof35s87P Haha well-done, Kid. I am a little bit worried about this being a fight, though, which every kid in the neighborhood chose to watch and film. Maybe it was a work all along? If it was, then WWE needs to hire these kids to show their guys how to throw punches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Foley said Bobby was the only person to make a scaffold match look good because he actually worked up there. I think I saw MX/Roadies from the Bash on tape way back in the day, and remember it completely sucking, so what do you guys think about it? Was going to mention the Brian Lee/Dreamer one before I saw Brian's post. At least in that one you got to see a huge dude blast through a ring full of tables... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 How do people rate the AJ Styles-Rhino Elevation X match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Random: Orndorff has been publically bitter about his perceived place in Rasslin History. I am watching some 1984 WWF today. Orndorff is certainly good. He had a great physique, too. But I feel like he lacks a certain spark which would put him within the all-time greats. People like Hogan needed a guy like him to work off. But it doesn't mean Orndorff is at Hogan's level. It got me to thinking. Who would be in the same place today? Someone who was decent enough, who could work Main Event and Upper-Midcard matches adequately. But who just isn't quite there when it comes to calling him a superstar. Kane, maybe? That's a tough one. Kane, despite some of the bullshit they've had him do, hasn't ever not been over. Plus, he had the WWF title for a day in addition to the "lifetime achievement" ECW and WHC runs, which is more than can be said for Orndorff as far as meaningful runs. I mean, Kane and Bryan polished the hell out of that Dr. Shelby turd-- compare that to Orndorff's motivational talk from Gary Spivey. As far as someone who I'd put in that boat today, I'd have to say The Miz, despite his time with the title. I liked his smarminess, but the fact is, he, like Orndorff, was unfortunately part of one of the lesser-celebrated WM mains despite being surrounded by stars, and probably won't reach that level again unless there is some serious rehabilitation to his character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Fine, Jim Herd's an asshole. Great. He's also been out of the business for over two decades. The company he ran hasn't even existed for well over a decade. And yet he still lives rent-free in Cornette's head. It's just not healthy. Its not like he said it unprompted. Someone asked and he answered. And a lot of it is Cornette working shtick. Like asking Rodney Dangerfield about his ex wife so he can do zingers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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