odessasteps Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 E&C did an edgeheads retrospective this week with Hawkins and eventually Ryder. Haven't listened to it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 It was a fun listen if just to learn how Hawkins and Ryder got their name. I laughed my ass off finding out Zack Ryder's name came from a combination of Zack Morris and Rider Strong from Boy Meets World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 By the way, the Starrcade '99 show of What Happened When was good. Tony and Conrad cracked me up more than a few times. It's great when Tony just starts calling the match like a lunatic, completely destroying it. Back to Bruce and Conrad, as time has gone on, Conrad has had to change his questions because Bruce just winds up being like, "well you weren't there" or "fuck Dave Meltzer" or "fuck Wade Keller" or "I don't know" or "it didn't happen like that." It was a long time ago, but Conrad called Bruce out on all of his bullshitting and pointed out how Bruce's timeline is full of shit. Bruce responds with that his timeline is the one true source because he documented everything in his book/journal and he gave that to Conrad. Conrad then tells Bruce that he referred to the journal and Bruce didn't write shit about the subject or he did and the date was wildly different. I think it had to do with booking Hogan. Anyway, Bruce was like well I don't know and that's not how I remember it. So Bruce goes from saying that his journal is the one true source of knowledge and when that was wrong then you have to go off of Bruce's memory and it's well documented that Bruce is about the worst source of knowledge because he obfuscates the truth, blatantly lies, issues denials that are bullshit (like the Steiners stuff), and you're just listening to horseshit. It doesn't matter how good the questions are that Conrad asks, Bruce is just about the worst co-host or narrator you could have. He's way too full of shit, he's clearly still protecting himself and others probably in hopes that he'll be hired back, and his memory is garbage because he clearly just makes shit up to fill in the gaps. Bruce is also a dick. He can repeat that "well you weren't there and I was so how would you know?" bullshit until he's blue in the face and what can Conrad really say to that? Nothing because he wasn't there, but there's also no sense in challenging Bruce. It's a lose/lose situation. Also notice how many times Conrad asks who booked this shit or who produced some awful segment and its RARELY Bruce. It's always Vince Russo, or Brian Gewirtz, or Pat Patterson, or someone else and Bruce wasn't there. Well ok them motherfucker, were you there or not because when you're challenged you tell the person that they weren't there and he was, but when asked about so much shit, Bruce wasn't there and it was someone else. And yes, there's times when Bruce may not be producing the segment and he's still on location or he's backstage, but there's plenty of other times where he clearly isn't around and claims to be the source of truth for this shit anyway. This is why I like What Happened When more. Tony was there commentating for everything. He has knowledge of booking decisions and the fun doesn't come from dishing dirt on what happened backstage, the fun comes from being in disbelief at the shit that went on in the ring or what went on in a video package. Tony isn't protecting himself and can let loose. Bruce on the other hand defends so much shit and when he does criticize something it's in the softest way possible. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I never heard an episode of Pritchard's show, but Craig's post ensured I never bother to check it out. I listen to enough as it is and I don't feel a need to waste my time hearing a guy that bullshits on the level Bruce does. Even if there's good stuff about it it sounds like the cons outweigh the pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I like both a lot, however I agree that Bruce is irritating sometimes. Tony is great though and is getting better. I’m really glad he’s been doing this podcast, I can’t believe it’s been a year. Time flies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 3 hours ago, NikoBaltimore said: I never heard an episode of Pritchard's show, but Craig's post ensured I never bother to check it out. I listen to enough as it is and I don't feel a need to waste my time hearing a guy that bullshits on the level Bruce does. Even if there's good stuff about it it sounds like the cons outweigh the pros. He's (Craig) not wrong, but I think the ratio of the situation he's describing compared to actual, useful and entertaining conversation is not as bad as it sounds. It should be noted I'm not a fan of Conrad and legit enjoy listening to Bruce talk, so my view might be biased. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 A lot of Conrad's "hard-hitting" questions are ones that Bruce is correct to shoot down - Pretty sure he asked about the Savage-Stephanie rumors at some point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Speaking of full of shit, Disco Inferno wants Konnan to get Meltzer on Keepin it 100 to explain why DI has never made the WON HOF ballot. I assume he's kidding around, but if he is serious, holy fuck, that's delusions of grandeur beyond my comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 That would be a bigger waste of Dave's time than arguing on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeCaesar Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 On the Schiavone podcast, it bubbles up every so often, but I think there's big untapped potential in Tony Schiavone - Movie Geek. Road Warrior Animal joins the podcast glut. Can't speak too much for the content yet but its pretty well produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Dirty Dutch Mantell has got a podcast coming out soon, that is one I'm interested in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 On 12/16/2017 at 9:47 PM, PetrolCB said: To be fair, Conrad even said it sucks and to skip it. At least he knows when an episode is shit. He’s done it before. Austin episode from Tony’s show for example. There have been others he’s said to skip too. I'm torn on how to read this. I feel like it's poor quality control to release something you know sucks. Sure, maybe you have the poll where the fans picked the topic, but why put that in the poll unless you're sure the content is going to be good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 4:52 PM, MORELOCK said: A lot of Conrad's "hard-hitting" questions are ones that Bruce is correct to shoot down - Pretty sure he asked about the Savage-Stephanie rumors at some point. I haven't listened to Something to Wrestle in a while, but you'd think after the 50th time Conrad asked about talent pay and Bruce refused to talk about it, he would've gotten the hint. At times it feels like Conrad's main source of info is the sleaze thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubblegumRogue Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 I enjoy the "trip down memory lane" aspect of Something to Wrestle, but if you're looking for inside dirt on stuff you're barking up the wrong tree. I gave up all hope of Bruce saying anything of real interest when he vehemently denied that Ted DiBiase's bodyguard was named as a rib on Dusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Christian on the most recent E&C pod straight up said Bruce got a story about him wrong or at the very least mixed it up with another story from years later. Even if you do listen to Something to Wrestle for backstage info, you really have to take it with a healthy dose of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I would say that is true of most wrestling podcasts, whether it is a person you like or don't like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Burned through a bunch of E&C shows while on vacation. Enjoyed the Bayley, Sami and Hawkins episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Scott Bowden had Dave Brown on his show this week. Well worth a listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagan Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Well, cool and also kind of explains where Conrad came from and how he got so tight with so many people so quick. I think the assumption was he was a money mark. Glad to see that it's a little more legit than that. Speaking of, Rockers episode of STW is pretty great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Learning of how the relationship started would certainly be interesting. It would certainly be easy to make a cynical/creepy leap to judgment without knowing the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 What the fuck was up with the beeping in the latest Schiavone podcast? Was that some kind of gag I missed b/c it's annoying as piss and I hope they never do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Lance had Cornette on this week and they missed a couple beeps due to how much Jim swears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, odessasteps said: Lance had Cornette on this week and they missed a couple beeps due to how much Jim swears. Ah ok. Well hopefully they never try to redo that joke again. It was super annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Listening to Bruce's new podcast on Royal Rumble 98. He's insufferable trying to defend the racial stuff HBK was doing at the time (eating bananas while making fun of the NOD, making monkey noises and gestures at a black fan, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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