Jerry Hattrick Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 At first, I thought for sure that the Brock situation was going to lead to a MITB type match. Orton wins a tough fought match with Batista. Brock comes down. Heyman rings the bell. A couple or ten F5's later, we have a new face of the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Wyatt Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Cena's injury was scripted, there's nothing wrong with him. PWI said it was all a bit written into the show. "First, he's gotta deal with the Wyatts and now he's got a knee injury! I don't know if John Cena can overcome the odds this time!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 could Cesaro do a Jackhammer without spurring stupid crowd chants? Nobody mocks Reigns for the Spear... I want Cesaro to be stretching people. Give him the Chickenwing or Tazmission and let him just choke people out left and right ala Samoa Joe. I'm also waiting for him to bust out the UFO at Mania too. I'd have him go back to using the Ricola Bomb and rename it the Cesaro Bomb. To hell w/ Batista and his Batista Bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scraylo187 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Somewhere in a room, Triple H is realizing Evolution wasn't as legendary and important as he thought it was Is there any chance that Wrestlemania just revolves around constant Real American matches and ends with them holding the tag titles, Cesaro holding the world strap, Swagger holding the IC, Zeb winning the US title, and then 2 Cold Scorpio challenges the streak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caley Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I Those guys are also entangled in the best feud in years AND coming off a match that, after rewatching it and breaking it down, is legitimately meeting the initial hype as one of the greatest matches of all-time. What was the last Shield match you didn't think was one of the greatest matches of all time? And I liked Shield/Wyatts. Yeah! How dare you often enjoy a show that you watch every week!? Don't you know you're supposed to bitch and moan about everything said company does but still tune in to every single show they do so you can complain about it!? Swing and a miss. To elaborate: First of all, I am by no means uniformly negative. I give WWE plenty of praise when I feel it's due. My very first post in the Elimination Chamber thread was about how great the show was. I've just been burned too many times to ignore the red flags when they pop up. Second, there's nothing wrong with liking the Shield. Hell, I like the Shield. But I would respectfully submit that if you honestly believed that Shield/Wyatts was one of the greatest matches of all time, either your frame of reference is too narrow or your standards are too generous. If everything is great, nothing is. So, if you think everything is great than everything is terrible, rather than just being a really enthusiastic fan? Maybe, Gregg is just a big fan who, novel concept, genuinely enjoys everything about the Shield? Why can't Shield-Wyatt be one of the greatest matches he's ever seen?! Because it wasn't yours?! I'm not having a go at you, so much as the mocking Greggulator gets on here for being an enthusiastic fan who loves matches with the Shield and the Wyatts. In what universe is that a bad thing?! Like, if you're not an enthusiastic fan, why are you still watching Raw every week?! What possible enjoyment could you be getting out if it?! We live in an era where it is easier to watch wrestling other than WWE than it has ever been! You don't have to send money orders to shifty homemade websites and just hope against hope that a tape will turn up in your mailbox in several months time anymore, you can just go to Youtube/Dailymotion or Torrents or file-sharing things and just download/stream basically any wrestling on the face of the planet. Yet, Gregg is the guy who gets mocked for watching and enjoying WWE?! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scraylo187 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I Those guys are also entangled in the best feud in years AND coming off a match that, after rewatching it and breaking it down, is legitimately meeting the initial hype as one of the greatest matches of all-time. What was the last Shield match you didn't think was one of the greatest matches of all time? And I liked Shield/Wyatts. Yeah! How dare you often enjoy a show that you watch every week!? Don't you know you're supposed to bitch and moan about everything said company does but still tune in to every single show they do so you can complain about it!? Swing and a miss. To elaborate: First of all, I am by no means uniformly negative. I give WWE plenty of praise when I feel it's due. My very first post in the Elimination Chamber thread was about how great the show was. I've just been burned too many times to ignore the red flags when they pop up. Second, there's nothing wrong with liking the Shield. Hell, I like the Shield. But I would respectfully submit that if you honestly believed that Shield/Wyatts was one of the greatest matches of all time, either your frame of reference is too narrow or your standards are too generous. If everything is great, nothing is. So, if you think everything is great than everything is terrible, rather than just being a really enthusiastic fan? Maybe, Gregg is just a big fan who, novel concept, genuinely enjoys everything about the Shield? Why can't Shield-Wyatt be one of the greatest matches he's ever seen?! Because it wasn't yours?! I'm not having a go at you, so much as the mocking Greggulator gets on here for being an enthusiastic fan who loves matches with the Shield and the Wyatts. In what universe is that a bad thing?! Like, if you're not an enthusiastic fan, why are you still watching Raw every week?! What possible enjoyment could you be getting out if it?! We live in an era where it is easier to watch wrestling other than WWE than it has ever been! You don't have to send money orders to shifty homemade websites and just hope against hope that a tape will turn up in your mailbox in several months time anymore, you can just go to Youtube/Dailymotion or Torrents or file-sharing things and just download/stream basically any wrestling on the face of the planet. Yet, Gregg is the guy who gets mocked for watching and enjoying WWE?! Also, let's have some real talk...If you don't think that those 6 guys are killing it from week to week and basically carrying the next gen for the company, I'm not sure what Raw you're watching. Maybe the one where Batista is totes awesome. They're legit murdering it every week, and if you're not as excited about what they're doing as Gregg is, I sort of feel bad for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Is there any chance that Wrestlemania just revolves around constant Real American matches and ends with them holding the tag titles, Cesaro holding the world strap, Swagger holding the IC, Zeb winning the US title, and then 2 Cold Scorpio challenges the streak? Depends what drugs you take beforehand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.J. Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Yeah, if you're going to shit on Greggulator, at least make sure it's over the right angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Is there any chance that Wrestlemania just revolves around constant Real American matches and ends with them holding the tag titles, Cesaro holding the world strap, Swagger holding the IC, Zeb winning the US title, and then 2 Cold Scorpio challenges the streak? I sort of want them to turn the Real Americans face, but it would have to include turning Zeb face without getting rid of too many of the aspects that make him entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Haters are going to hate. Whatever. I'm overenthusiastic about something I love. I'm the same way in the other stuff I love, too. I gave up being cynical ages ago. There are plenty of things I don't like about the WWE and I've posted about them. But I'd rather focus on the good and enjoy it. Ye gads! What a novel idea. To be enthusiastic about things one likes!I only wish everyone could feel the same way about life. If being miserable and filling your days obsessing over HHH booking himself over or whatever, I can't help you in that department. Feel free. I'm sorry that "getting enjoyment out of entertainment" is so offensive to so many.As far as Wyatts/Shield -- go read my in-depth, hard-hitting review on the EC topic. That match has so many wonderful arcs and stories and callbacks. It's the first true masterpiece from guys who solely came up from WWE developmental. (Yes, I know Dean and Seth and Harper but they put in FCW and NXT time). And it stands out because they have so much characterization in the match. Like, way more than other great matches. I mean, the Cesaro/Cena match was fantastic. But other than "This body part of mine hurts" and "I have to scream because I'm really strong and about to win!" there wasn't a lot of characterization within that.That's why I love Shield/Wyatts so much. If you see it differently, go ahead. But I bring my arguments to the table. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Is there any chance that Wrestlemania just revolves around constant Real American matches and ends with them holding the tag titles, Cesaro holding the world strap, Swagger holding the IC, Zeb winning the US title, and then 2 Cold Scorpio challenges the streak? I sort of want them to turn the Real Americans face, but it would have to include turning Zeb face without getting rid of too many of the aspects that make him entertaining. They can make him the lovable old uncle who is crazy and you just have to look beyond that because he's not a bad guy overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Haters are going to hate. This guy is so white you guys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Haters are going to hate. This guy is so white you guys Gregg is so white he: 1. Puts Sriracha on everything 2. LOVES The Wire 3. Can't dunk a basketball 4. Has no sense of rhythm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scraylo187 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Haters are going to hate. This guy is so white you guys and white people suck more than that snooze fest of a SHIELD/WYATT match that Gregg has such a boner for amirightfullcircle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Hey, I wish I could look at WWE wrestling through that mindset. I fully admit my cynicism and current preference for indy wrestling over the mainstream products. It's honestly frustrating that the in-ring content is as strong as it's ever been because the other factors drag down my perception of things. I didn't watch Elimination Chamber but I don't doubt that Shield-Wyatts and the Chamber match were great outings...hopefully I'll get to watch them sometime to see for myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Haters are going to hate. This guy is so white you guys The Humpty Dance tipped me off. Don't care, he's still awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Haters are going to hate. This guy is so white you guys and white people suck more than that snooze fest of a SHIELD/WYATT match that Gregg has such a boner for amirightfullcircle Nobody's saying that Shield/Wyatts sucked. I agree that it was a great match. But "one of the greatest matches of all time" is a much higher standard and warrants greater scrutiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Haters are going to hate. This guy is so white you guys and white people suck more than that snooze fest of a SHIELD/WYATT match that Gregg has such a boner for amirightfullcircle Nobody's saying that Shield/Wyatts sucked. I agree that it was a great match. But "one of the greatest matches of all time" is a much higher standard and warrants greater scrutiny. Here is the defense of my dissertation on the subject: I should have added in there my argument about NXT and development. So many FCW/NXT folks wrestle with great expressions and in character. The Shield and The Wyatts are obviously the best of the dudes who spent time in developmental. But even folks probably slotted for more midcard acts -- Aiden English, Tyler Breeze, Bailey -- have those down. We're going to see more of this type of character work in the coming years. We're already seeing it with minor acts like Summer Rae and Sandow. There won't be too many matches like Shield/Wyatts. But there are going to be a lot of really fun moments up and down the card with wretlers expressing themselves beyond traditional selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Haters are going to hate. This guy is so white you guys and white people suck more than that snooze fest of a SHIELD/WYATT match that Gregg has such a boner for amirightfullcircle The optimal meta reference is that Gregg is so white that he listens to Pitbull. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kropotkin's Beard Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I actually only give a fuck about Bryan, Hunter, Brock and Taker these days. I don't know what happened but everyone is a Good Wrestler having Good Matches and its boring. They should bring in Meng to fuck up all these boring midcard dudes. So what you're saying is you desperately miss CM Punk? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquariumDrinker Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Bray Wyatt embraced his inner Rust Cohle. He may be the King in Yellow. We're all in Carcosa now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Haters are going to hate. This guy is so white you guys and white people suck more than that snooze fest of a SHIELD/WYATT match that Gregg has such a boner for amirightfullcircle The optimal meta reference is that Gregg is so white that he listens to Pitbull. Jesus Christ. How is it that every week this thread devolves into "Hey, what's up with Gregg?" Fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Haters are going to hate. This guy is so white you guys and white people suck more than that snooze fest of a SHIELD/WYATT match that Gregg has such a boner for amirightfullcircle The optimal meta reference is that Gregg is so white that he listens to Pitbull. Jesus Christ. How is it that every week this thread devolves into "Hey, what's up with Gregg?" Fuck. Yeah, I'm honored to be a thought leader and everything but for real. There's like, wrestling, to talk about rather than the color of my skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overly Critical Man Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 On the plus side, I like Greg a lot more than Gonzalez. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 On the plus side, I like Greg a lot more than Gonzalez. DAMMIT, say his name three times and he'll reappear. DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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