Greggulator Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 There's still "sports" in sports entertainment. Every power structure in sports puts pressure on athletes to perform with injuries. No one wants to be Wally Pipp.But wrestling should be able to avoid that problem, due to the entertainment part. If someone's banged up, there are ways to write them off the show and write them back in later on. There shouldn't be a problem at all. But injuries are a "divide-and-conquer" thing promoters use to their advantage.These dudes need a union. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Another thing that boggles my mind are how guys rely on merch sales for supplemental income. If you're going to be a heel, your job is to become hated by the fans. Why the hell would anyone ever want to lose that opportunity? There's no incentive to wanting to play a heel in the right away, other than not wanting to lose your job.Also, all that Cena merchandise is sold because he has great foils. Faces get over because they have great villains to play with. Shouldn't they get a cut of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeeball Wizard Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Finally got around to listening to this, and honestly, I think Punk came off very well. Most of his complaints were valid, the only thing that I didn't think was on point was the whole Ryback intentionally trying to hurt him. I just don't understand what the motivation for him to do that would be, and Punk didn't present any evidence to support that claim. He might be a big clumsy oaf, that seems to be more the legitimate reason for the things that happened where Punk was injured. I went into this neither loving or hating Punk but came out of it happy for him that he is in a good place now and happy with his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Another thing that boggles my mind are how guys rely on merch sales for supplemental income. If you're going to be a heel, your job is to become hated by the fans. Why the hell would anyone ever want to lose that opportunity? There's no incentive to wanting to play a heel in the right away, other than not wanting to lose your job. Also, all that Cena merchandise is sold because he has great foils. Faces get over because they have great villains to play with. Shouldn't they get a cut of that? There were times in the old days when babyfaces would give the heels a cut of their merch money. Pretty sure it happened with RnR and either the MX or the Bodies in SMW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Another thing that boggles my mind are how guys rely on merch sales for supplemental income. If you're going to be a heel, your job is to become hated by the fans. Why the hell would anyone ever want to lose that opportunity? There's no incentive to wanting to play a heel in the right away, other than not wanting to lose your job. Also, all that Cena merchandise is sold because he has great foils. Faces get over because they have great villains to play with. Shouldn't they get a cut of that? There were times in the old days when babyfaces would give the heels a cut of their merch money. Pretty sure it happened with RnR and either the MX or the Bodies in SMW. First pro wrestler's union President Ricky Morton it is! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Another thing that boggles my mind are how guys rely on merch sales for supplemental income. If you're going to be a heel, your job is to become hated by the fans. Why the hell would anyone ever want to lose that opportunity? There's no incentive to wanting to play a heel in the right away, other than not wanting to lose your job. Also, all that Cena merchandise is sold because he has great foils. Faces get over because they have great villains to play with. Shouldn't they get a cut of that? Â The more I think about it today the more it explains all of the tweener characters. Â Nobody want to be listed as a heel so they make the character out to be a tweener character hoping to save face with merchandise sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 But with the popularity of anti-heroes in popular culture, selling heel merch might be better than a wishy-washy tweener trying to sell merch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I bet all these hypocrites who are saying "Punk shouldn't have walked out, it was unprofessional" cheered loudly when Charmander left his abusive trainer and joined Ash! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I bet all these hypocrites who are saying "Punk shouldn't have walked out, it was unprofessional" cheered loudly when Charmander left his abusive trainer and joined Ash! Â I regret that I have but one like to give for this post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valcourt Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Wonder how much colts advertising revenue (what he makes from advertisers) may go up based on this show? Anyone think wwe acknowledge the show or what he said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Triple H will do an interview with Michael Cole where he says that "Punk screwed Punk." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I don't imagine they'll say a damn thing on the air, (they're fools if they do,) but the tougher test will be Vince on Austin's podcast. Does Austin stay away from the topic, and does he look like Vince's lackey if he does? If Austin doesn't stay away, does Vince cut loose, or does he clam up for the good of the company, (he could probably get away with a "there's legal issues there that can't be discussed so I'm afraid I just can't say anything about that," without too much pushback from Austin,) even thought it will probably piss him off to have to wuss out like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 if they do anything, it'll involve some random dude just not showing up after a week, then releasing comments about leaving. Leading that person to be a surrogate for Punk. Â Maybe have it be someone like JBL who just doesn't show up one week or disappears after a segment and "quits". And blames the travel schedule and Cole/Lawler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 This is hilarious, I still can't get the episode on iTunes and Cabana's site is SLOOOOW AS FUUUUCK. I only made it through 5 minutes of the podcast last night on YouTube before my own internet went slow and then died. Gonna try again now. I already know the details, but I want to hear it anyway. Â I said it elsewhere on the web, but - While I'm not too bothered Punk likely won't be on WWE TV ever again, it breaks my goddamn heart that he's lost his passion for wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole Miner Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I said it elsewhere on the web, but - While I'm not too bothered Punk likely won't be on WWE TV ever again, it breaks my goddamn heart that he's lost his passion for wrestling. Why on Earth do you care enough to have a broken heart? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Because I'm a fan of CM Punk in a wrestling ring? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerjeRUN Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I'm jealous of anybody who can still be heart broken by wrestling. I was that way when I was young, and that was the best time to be a wrestling fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I'll get a lot of laughs for this probably, but Punk is to me what Flair or whomever is to a lot of fans. He's "my guy". So, yeah, naturally I'm crestfallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Jeez, all these pages and not one mention of the fact that he used the word "hurty" to describe Ryback. You KNOW that dude is reading every word of this. I can feel it in my plums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 My favorite random tidbit from this was that Benoit would pop other people's zits backstage and a lot of the boys/girls would record it on their phones and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHFP Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Did we ever figure out which account is Punk's? Who has hated Ryback the most on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 check the 200+ post Ryback/Punk nonsense thread from last December? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Him shit-talking Triple H was great because you just KNOW no one has spoken like that to Triple H in years. Â It may also guarantee he truly is never coming back. Â Triple H is petty. We know this. He will be 90 and still pissed at CM Punk for suggesting he was too lowly for him to wrestle at WM. Vince can forget a slight for the sake of business; he can't. He forgave the Outlaws, who said way worse things about him than Punk did. If Punk wants to come back he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Him shit-talking Triple H was great because you just KNOW no one has spoken like that to Triple H in years. It may also guarantee he truly is never coming back. Triple H is petty. We know this. He will be 90 and still pissed at CM Punk for suggesting he was too lowly for him to wrestle at WM. Vince can forget a slight for the sake of business; he can't. He forgave the Outlaws, who said way worse things about him than Punk did. If Punk wants to come back he will. Presumably the Outlaws apologized. I don't see Punk ever doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I could see them mutually apologizing. Time changes a lot of things, I don't think HHH really holds grudges. I think most of the shit he pulled over the years was more protecting his spot than any genuine malice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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