Elsalvajeloco Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Oh shit Paul Roma was the worst. I'd say the poster who was the most respected was Naimark or however that was spelled. The MMA section used to have quite a few personalities as well. I miss TOM's comprehensive ranking list of guys from 1 to 350 in EVERY weight class. A couple years ago, I did go back and browse old TFW pages to find some of the worse predictions ever made. Some of those guys were very douchey (as well as incredibly wrong on almost everything), which is probably why the exodus to the Total MMA forum thing didn't work in hindsight. One guy I certainly do not miss is Cell, who got pissed off at people saying negative things about fighters from Chicago who he may or may not have trained with. We once got into an argument when Cris Cyborg had signed with EliteXC, and he basically went into a tangent about how Cris Cyborg would not have an easy time beating Jen Case. Then, Jen Case never fought after the fight was cancelled and Cris reeled off nine straight wins over the best girls in her weight class. Oh, Cell. Yeah, that was one of those terrible predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Who was it who ranked the Top 500 DVDVR members? I remember that being a discussion point for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 We ever had 500 active members to rank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 What happened to AG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 We ever had 500 active members to rank? Not sure, but someone sure ranked us. I miss La Parka Owns You. I think I'm getting the name right. He had the best comic going in LoC for a year or so, about this guy named Carl who became a superhero named. . .Carl. It was great. I want to know if Carl ever hook up with his co-worker/crush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 For the record, Naimark is still an awesome guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole Miner Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Whatever happened to BeanFriedPork? Anyone remember him? Yeah he around at RSPW as well. Just one day stopped showing up. Wasn't banned or anything. I don't remember when I started reading here. I know I started because the most awful posters on RSPW complained about it. Figured it had to be good reading if it was annoying those fools. Had to be around late 2000, early 2001. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Where's Vic these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 He's on a personal exile through the cold and the darkness. I'm hoping he comes back to us having reached a new state of consciousness. Also, he talked on the phone to Ivan Koloff today. No lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Where's Vic these days? He's been dealing with a ton of shit off board it seems like. I'll say this: Vic is one argumentative motherfucker, but he's also a total sweetheart. He'll probably hate seeing that printed out, but I don't give a crap. It's the truth. You know what, lets do a motherfuckin' role call and pour one out for past board dudes: Mike Naimark: Baddest mofo ever, both on here, and off board. He is living the life and I hope good things keep coming his way. Winnipagan: One day, I will go to his bar and that will probably be the day that his bar isn't running some kind of a special. Devin Intervention: Another guy seemingly living the life. I miss his opinions and rapport on here. TOM: What the fuck happened to him? Bill Barnwell: We all know where he is. I'll never forget him, Rippa and Dean trying to tell me the Cubs were dead in the water after game 6. I should have listened to them and their knowledge of "veteran presence" instead of getting my hopes up. KS: I so miss his TUF write ups. Such funny shit and a smart as hell judoka. Fat Redheaded Kid From the Sandlot: Best board name ever? Best board name ever. Brand One: No, wait, this is the best board name ever. And if you weren't there to see the genesis of this name, then I feel sorry for you. One of the funniest things FSW has pulled off on this board. ---------- God, everything feels so much more peaceful now on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Also forgot to add David Smith and Sven, among others. I remember the pic of DS in front of the old school Arbys sign and for a moment I thought he was here in South Bend, since we're one of a handful of locations that still have the gigantic Arbys cowboy hat signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Occasional poster since green board days, spent a good five years lurking with my posting permissions removed due to Ganc disliking me from whatever stupid idiot stuff I was into back on RSPW. Whatever happened to that guy? I ask because I'm still afraid he'll come back and drop the hammer on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole Miner Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Just one old school post to throw in. Lance Storm on the DVDVR 500 Commentary Rating Workers Can it be done? May 15,2001 A friend of mine sent me a link to a web site that rates workers. In fact they produce a top 500 workers in the business list (www.deathvalleydriver.com/dvd500.html). He sent this to me because we have, on numerous occasions, talked and debated over what makes up a great worker. I've said many times that I don't feel you can accurately rate workers and I think lists like this prove my point. With wrestling being such a subjective art it becomes largely a matter of taste. Even considering a list, such as this, to be accurate not to mention feeling yourself qualified to make such a list, without actually working with the people on it, is ludicrous and to be honest I find it quite offensive. I don't think anyone outside of the business can have a complete grasp of what being a great worker is all about and the complexities involved there in. Granted avid fans, that pay attention, can tell who has talent and who doesn't, but to think you understand the business enough to determine whether Eddie Guerrero is a better worker than Chris Benoit or visa versa is insane. I've been in the business 11 years and am considered a damn fine worker yet I can't answer that question. I realize they are both very talented guys but being that I haven't worked either of them I don't know for sure what all they each bring to the table. Let me first point out a few thing that I feel make up a great worker that more often than not fans over look. First and foremost safety, if a guy is beating the hell out of you in order to make his stuff look good, I don't consider him a good worker. You also have to have the ability to work around your injuries and others'. You have to be able to wrestle a diversity of matches and opponents and still look good. You have to have the ability to make others look good despite their shortcomings. You have to be able to put together a great match, execute it, and lead others through it. You also have to, and this one is a dieing art, be able to work the people. Make them buy what you are selling, not just throw a bunch of high spots out there so they can go "OH!" When you do that you are letting the fans call the match, and they are working you. (I may get into this aspect more next week) Okay now on to the list. I'm basically going to pick wholes in it to show how these lists are never accurate or fair to those of us who are on it. I don't think the creators of the list should take offence. My doing this commentary will likely generate more traffic for their little list than they ever imagined. Like they say, "Any press is good press!" 1. Kawada: Now I haven't seen any of his stuff in a while, and I'm told it has been extremely good but let's be honest here. His stuff looks good because its ž's legit. He beats the hell out of guys. Does anyone honestly think he could wrestle non All Japan style matches? Could he work someone who has a neck injury and still have a good match? Could he pull off a decent match with a very limited North American style worker? Kawada is very good at his certain style of match with the workers he's been working with for the last 5-10 years. Is he truly well rounded and diverse enough to be considered the best this sport has? I doubt it. 20. Chris Daniels: Nothing against the guy, he's actually a friend of mine and I think he's quite talented, but he does not have the experience level or the ability to dictate and carry a match to warrant this ranking. Putting him way ahead of guys like Hunter and Eddie just shows that our list makers are marks for Indy guys who do a ton of moves. I don't think Chris would put himself ahead of a lot of the guys he's ahead of on this list. 26. Great Sasuke: Everybody loves this guy, and granted he's fun to watch, but believe me he is not a great worker. I've worked with the guy and I would call him a poor to very poor worker. He has good execution of spots and is one of the best aerial flyers there is but when the high spots are over this guy can't work a lick! Working 6-man lucha matches there isn't much outside of the spots and the dives so you don't notice it, but believe me if he's not in there with a guy to carry the wrestling this guy is lost! 45. HHH: Come on, here is a guy with versatility who has head lined and stole the show on PPV and he's ranked below several Indy workers. Give me a break! 60. Lance Storm: I won't comment. My opinion is likely bias. I just thought you would want to know where I ranked. 90. Cham Pain: I know this guy, and I've seen him work. Placing him 58 spots ahead of Billy Kidman should be a crime punishable by death! 148. Billy Kidman: See # 90. 250. This one is a classic example of people not understanding what the word "Worker" even means. Jarrett is a classic great worker. He can go to the ring with nothing and run a match on the fly. I know I've worked him. Our match was put over in the sheets and on the net. We both worked 2 or three times that night and we went to the ring with nothing but "Let's just throw it back and forth, get a lot of near falls, and we'll hit the "Stroke" when Steiner comes out" That is working. Everyone in the WCW locker room loves working with Jeff, because it's easy. He doesn't have Flair charisma on interviews, he doesn't have an RVD offensive move set, and he doesn't have Lex Luger's body, but Jarrett can damn sure work. If there are 249 better workers in this sport than Jeff Jarrett, there is 200-240 of them I'm yet to meet! 312. Ricky Morton: I haven't seen any of his work of late but Ricky Morton on his deathbed is a better worker than half this business. 500. RVD: I will be the first person to say Rob isn't the most diverse well-rounded worker out there, but to use any criteria to get Rob this far down a list would also eliminate most of the guys in the top 100. Well those are a few of the more interesting rankings. Where everyone actually belongs, I have no idea! I just like pointing out the fact that "A great match does not a great worker make!" Till next week, Lance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 TOM: What the fuck happened to him? KS: I so miss his TUF write ups. Such funny shit and a smart as hell judoka. TOM and KS went to Total MMA. I think TOM's real name may have been Iain something because I see some of his rankings on what's left of the Total MMA site. These may be two people and the other guy just stole his style by C&P his stuff. glfpunk would know because he wrote there. KS came back for all of two weeks when people just stop posting at Total MMA out of sheer boredom. evilclown (Snowden) came back around the same time but he never once posted in the MMA forum when rimz took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Yeah, I remember all of that. KS was also writing on some other site for awhile and I think was posting on the UG for a bit. Christ, I haven't been on the UG in forever. I had no idea TOM was Iain, though. Hey, anyone miss Cell? No? Yeah, me neither. Fucking dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cole Miner Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 FSW posted a KS review of the rumble in the rumble thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 What the hell happened to Rev? Am I tripping and he just changed names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I'm laughing really hard at that one. Yeah, he's had a couple different names. EDIT: He's Bald Bombshell right now. I can always tell who Rev is because he promotes this shit out of his Tumblr and Twitter in his signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 We ever had 500 active members to rank? Since the last reboot, the 500th most active poster has 7 posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I'm laughing really hard at that one. Yeah, he's had a couple different names. EDIT: He's Bald Bombshell right now. I can always tell who Rev is because he promotes this shit out of his Tumblr and Twitter in his signature. You fuckers need to stop changing names. I can't decide or remember whether or not to hate you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 It's stupid, but what i miss the most, posts wise, are probably the Faces of Fear vs the World polls. I mean, we've got the Demolition Project archived for the most part at thehistoryofthewwe.com . I wish I had my AWA reviews, especially the cage match one and some other various things we did in the What are you Watching threads from over the years. I kind of wish we had some of the Eddy-Death stuff, since we all came together there. I think you can see signs of it every time we talk about him as a group, though. We did at other points, too, like 9/11. For posters, yeah, Naimark was great, knowledgeable, smart, kind. He was personally hugely kind to me. Sven was one of those guys whose interest fit so well with mine David Smith knew SO much about certain topics. You know who I miss though? G. Gordon Liddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 It's stupid, but what i miss the most, posts wise, are probably the Faces of Fear vs the World polls. I mean, we've got the Demolition Project archived for the most part at thehistoryofthewwe.com . I wish I had my AWA reviews, especially the cage match one and some other various things we did in the What are you Watching threads from over the years. I kind of wish we had some of the Eddy-Death stuff, since we all came together there. I think you can see signs of it every time we talk about him as a group, though. We did at other points, too, like 9/11. For posters, yeah, Naimark was great, knowledgeable, smart, kind. He was personally hugely kind to me. Sven was one of those guys whose interest fit so well with mine David Smith knew SO much about certain topics. You know who I miss though? G. Gordon Liddy. The greatest gimmick poster of them all... to the point where I was (and still am) firmly convinced it actually was G. Gordon Liddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I also think my favorite thing about DVDVR is that it made me feel comfortable in loving Queen as much as I do. And Kween. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 This is going to sound macabre, but has anyone from here passed away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 This is going to sound macabre, but has anyone from here passed away? I forget what Vanes Naldi's handle was, but yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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