Niners Fan in CT Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 We fucking get it, Niners, you love this show. You don't need to keep defending it like a girlfriend. You're like Big Fresh and every video game ever. We get it, you hate the show? You've been raging about it for three weeks. I've been critical on plenty of things also but...ok. I wouldn't say I love it at all. But I'll give credit where it's due. Solid acting performances and an interesting plot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 She may be giving the best performances, but I'm still enjoying the Vince Vaughn stuff more than anything else. I thought it was funny when he slapped the one dude. Seems like something I've seen him do a lot in movies, but here it was even more ridiculous. He also feels like he's bouncing from one past character to another. When he's talking about his business, he could be talking about Speaker City for all I know. The performance anxiety stuff was really lame, though. Like, we get it, his life sucks, but every episode is starting out with how fucking sad and lame Frank's life is. That was balanced out by beating the shit out of the one guy. Another lame thing is the WAY obvious gay backstory for Riggins and the fucked up daddy stuff for Bolo Ray. I don't want to keep harping on the writing, but adding flaw after flaw after flaw for these characters doesn't make them deeper or more interesting. I'm also sad we didn't see McAdams lying on her back, screaming, as she dumps her clip into the sky when she wasn't able to get the guy in the mask. Yeah...This really makes it look like I hate it. Christ. Why are you being so dense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiffshots Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Rust Cohle spouting elliptical dialog? Magic. Ray Velcoro and Frank Semyon doing same? Not so much. Season 2 feels like a modern-day James Ellroy joint. It would be nice if it fucking sounded like one, as well. But I'm still watching. Because, between this and THE LEFTOVERS, I'm masochistic enough to need my feel-bad HBO television fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I've turned a corner on Rachel McAdams. She might be the best thing in this. And it has good ideas and influences and cool visuals. The execution is just, eh, iffy. My only concern going into this season was not having one director for the entire eight episodes, and though I've loved the Lynchian shots and oppresively electric atmosphere it's still a concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 We fucking get it, Niners, you love this show. You don't need to keep defending it like a girlfriend. You're like Big Fresh and every video game ever. We get it, you hate the show? You've been raging about it for three weeks. I've been critical on plenty of things also but...ok. I wouldn't say I love it at all. But I'll give credit where it's due. Solid acting performances and an interesting plot. I don't think anyone has raged about this show, we've just pointed out the multitude of flaws. This show isn't all that good, but it's far from unwatchable. I'm going to watch the entire season, just to witness all the nonsense that somehow got past the editors. I really want to know what was taken out of this show, because it doesn't seem like they left anything at all on the cutting room floor. The scene with Colin Farrell and his dad having a conversation in the netherworld lounge was ridiculous. The sleazy mayor has an even sleazier family. His son threw a topless woman off a balcony, while wearing a speedo, and talking in a phony accent. There are two characters dealing with erectile dysfunction...how much do you want to bet Colin Farrell fails at getting a boner some time in the future? Vince Vaughn got into a fight with a chubby gangster and pulled his gold teeth out with a pair of pliers. Tim Riggins may or may not have had a gay rendevous in a desert warzone. All of these things happened in one episode, how can you not understand why people are questioning the writing on this show? This is a crazily flawed show, but it is interesting in the same way trainwrecks and amateur porn are interesting. It will keep your interest, but calling it good is a stretch and a half. With all that said, the acting on this show has been ridiculously good based on the actual content of the show. These actors are basically Advanced Placement readers slumming it in the remedial class, and it is fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 It's LA dude, sounds like a perfectly normal 24 hours to me Out of interest, what do you watch the show for? So you've got something to complain about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 It's LA dude, sounds like a perfectly normal 24 hours to me Out of interest, what do you watch the show for? So you've got something to complain about? I'm entertained by it, I'm just able to seperate what I find entertaining and what is actually good. There are good things I don't like and bad things I do, this is one of those bad things. This is a six-legged clusterfuck, but it's a fun six-legged clusterfuck so I continue to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I want Purgatory Conway Twitty in every episode; however, I'm sort of bummed that if Ray had gotten shot a couple minutes later we would've gotten Purgatory Warren Zevon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 As someone who has Excitable Boy sitting on his turntable right now, I'm 100% down for some Warren getting played on this show (or any other, really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 This show isn't all that good, but it's far from unwatchable. I don't want to drag this on and maybe you haven't been blasting the show for three weeks but as a collective the board has been doing that and I even agree with some of the flaws that you have pointed out. I have no problem with differing opinions. With that said, all I've done is given a different point of view and I posted a couple articles from writers who are enjoying the show. I thought maybe you could read them and possibly the Vanity Fair piece which touches on where Nick might have gotten some of his ideas for the plot.. I thought maybe some dudes on the board would read it and say "oh okay.. cool.. I understand why some people are digging it" Overall it's been getting pretty solid reviews. But what can you do? At the end of the day, I'm not trying to change opinions. Some people will hate it, others won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Bolo Ray sprinting with three broken ribs is just flat out stupid to write into the script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I think if I had to watch this show without context (season 1, everyone rightly or wrongly hating Nic Pizzolato) I'd still enjoy it immensely. That's the best compliment I can give it. It's not amazing, but it's still 100x more interesting than most cop shows. Anyone remember that Showtime show Fallen Angels? It's a little like that. If you like the Los Angeles Neo-Noir stuff, you'll love it. If not, eh...you're a bit screwed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driver Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Still enjoying it. I guess this is what they call a "slow burn"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 How long should I have The Rose stuck in my head before I consult a doctor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 So a lot about that final scene is going to divide people I think, and I'll be curious to see how it plays out. There was stuff in it that was pretty great in it, some really intense moments...McAdams' stuff was great especially when she was going to the knife and panicking. And some stuff that was just absurd. But it's clearly meant to be the "one shot housing project shootout" moment of this season so we'll see how agog everyone is.It was missing is the vistuosity of that season 1 scene and they tried to make up for it in magnitude or scale...and that led to some comically Chuck Norris moments (the chubby asian guy just dancing into the line of fire when the gray-haired cop is trying to shoot the one guy, the tv. reporter being in the background to get shot seconds after we clearly see her not being in that same spot were straight-up INVASION USA...like, really if I had to compare this to something it would be that and not HEAT even though I know that's what they were going for). It was hilarious at the end when we realize that like literally every single person in a three block radius was killed except the three main characters of the show. Also that, what, 10 minutes after the shooting began and a gigantic building explosion some backup finally shows up. That could maybe be a plot point, I guess, as they were relying on Vinci PD who were deliberately late.But that raises another issue. any sense of scale. Like, what we just saw would be national news for weeks. Maybe it will be because it seems like they're going to flash forward like in season 1 with everyone assuming the case is closed and Rachel McAdams saying it's not.But really, there would be such a spotlight on that little town. Don Lemon would be there every night. Chessani would be on t.v. giving press conferences. They cant' just pretend otherwise, right?Two things that I liked a lot this week:1) The best subtle bit of character-development happened in the Farrell/Kitch car scene. It's a nice touch that Velcoro so consistently and clumsily tries to ingratiate himself with everyone. Like, he was stupidly saying all the wrong "well-meaning" things you're not supposed to say to a guy havig a PTSD episode, but he was trying so hard to be his buddy and failing as usual.2) The fact that McAdams' hotness is used against her, that all those guys complaints are from guys who she dumped who wanted so bad to "fix her" and couldn't accept that she didn't want to be fixed. So they take their revenge out through the system. That was pretty realistically shitty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I don't care how ridiculous it was, it was pretty fucking great. The looks between all three at the end like "what did we just do?" was a nice cap to it all. Of course I thought that the army guy (I've given up on any names except for Bolo Ray) was going to kill the hostage but no dice. If you are gonna go over the top, go for the gusto, and they certainly are managing well in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVanderlay Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 So, someone at HBO is a big fan of Heat I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Everyone is a big fan of HEAT. Unfortunately, not everyone is capable of making HEAT. Like this show, for instance. Classic case of sequelitis here. The instinct to go bigger almost always leads to going dumber. This is exactly what JURASSIC WORLD was trying to tell us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Also, you guys and your McAdams fixation... fuck that. Kelly Reilly is right there and nobody has made a peep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 No light escapes the black hole that is Frank's storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 No light escapes the black hole that is Frank's storyline. The weekly Frank litany of woe is hard to take. I don't know if I can go on. First Stan and then fat drunk cop? Then asian reprter lady? Then bus driver guy? Then chubby asian dude? Then gray-haired cop who killed chubby asian dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Fuck you all. Frank the Tank is carrying this show on his goddamn back! You leave him and his infertility issues alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Also, piranesi, why do you hate this show so much?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVanderlay Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I know it's nitpicking, but that Sig Sauer P226 looked ridiculous in Rachel McAdams' tiny hands. Could they not have given her a P228 or P229 instead? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Fuck you all. Frank the Tank is carrying this show on his goddamn back! You leave him and his infertility issues alone! "I don't do someone else's time." Possibly the most fucked up answer to "Why don't we adopt?" I have ever heard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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