Elsalvajeloco Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Just now, BrianS81177 said: I think the XFL would have had a much different fate if they had waited until March 2002 to launch it. That way they could have had coaches lined up, players signed and given them extensive time to practice. At least the games might have looked a little more professional in terms of the quality of play on the field. If they could have come out of the gate with at least a professional looking product, they might have at least gotten a second season. I get why they had the big rush because "ZOMG WE LOST THE NFL" Side note: how much money has Vince pissed away over the years? The WBF, WWE New York, XFL, WWE films, Linda's failed senate runs... am I forgetting anything? Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Donny Lalonde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Oh yeah. And come to think of it, didn't he buy into a casino in Vegas or Atlantic City once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, BrianS81177 said: Oh yeah. And come to think of it, didn't he buy into a casino in Vegas or Atlantic City once? Yeah, he bought a casino at a bankruptcy auction. The company planed to renovate it into a WWE-themed casino and hotel, but nothing ever came of it. Supposedly, Vince sold the property for a small profit, so it wasn't a complete debacle. As far as other Vince failures, Tout comes to mind. Supposedly, Vince lost $5 million or so on the Tout app/deal. The minor league hockey team Vince bought - Cape Cod Buccaneers - lost a decent bit the year Vince owned them in the early 80's, but that wasn't exactly his fault. The league collapsed mid-season, with a couple teams folding. The league then voted to abort the rest of the season and hold the playoffs immediately (?). Vince disagreed with the decision and shut down the team. It wasn't really Vince's venture anyway. He became full-owner and assumed day-to-day control when his co-owner couldn't come up with the money to run the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Only Vince McMahon could pick the one social media platform in the past decade that failed on a complete and total level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 In hindsight, did the $ spent on Linda's campaigns pave the way for her SBA job in the cabinet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 No, the millions they gave the Donald Trump Foundation sure did though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I'm not sure what his share was in the Evil Knievel Snake River Canyon debacle, but I'd wager he lost a few bucks on that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serious Darius Bagfelt Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Lost money like others in the Ali-Inoki closed circuit deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serious Darius Bagfelt Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 11 hours ago, elizium said: After. What a shitshow that was, except for Baltimore, at least they gave a damn. It was such a random collection of cities. Sacremento! Schreveport! Let's put all of the teams as far south of the rest of the league as possible! CFL was just looking for money to keep the other teams afloat at that point. They didnt care where it came from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I've always felt the XFL could have worked, but the biggest issue (This goes for the WBF as well) was that he couldn't leave it alone. He had to have it be WWF FOOTBALL instead of just letting it be its own thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 He should have had his talent play instead, that would have worked out well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 It has a high bar to clear to be better than the Bird/Magic documentary that HBO did 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Wasn't the Ric Flair 30 for 30 supposed to be released this spring? Or am I just completely wrong about that (likely, considering Google didn't find a concrete release date for me)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 This first part of the 30 for 30 on the Celtics vs Lakers rivalry is great. Easily top 5 for me. Tonight they are finishing it up. That 1984 Celtics team really was a collection of dicks that you would love to have on their team. Cedric Maxwell and ML Carr are the stars of this 30 for 30 Funny how most of the discussion on ESPN radio was how many games would Kevin McHale have gotten if he clothesline Kurt Rambis like he did in game 3 in 2017. And all he got was a foul. Hell ML might have gotten 2 technical a game for his stuff on the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 On 4/14/2017 at 1:39 PM, RIPPA said: It has a high bar to clear to be better than the Bird/Magic documentary that HBO did I thought the 30 for 30 was better than a Courtship for Rivals. And I thought a Courtship for Rivals was very good. Wasn't the Flair 30 for 30 supposed to air by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Horton Hears a Wooo!!! said: I thought the 30 for 30 was better than a Courtship for Rivals. And I thought a Courtship for Rivals was very good. Wasn't the Flair 30 for 30 supposed to air by now? I think dave said latest was early next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Yeah it looks like the next 30 for 30 is the one on Mike and the Mad Dog radio show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 The Flair one is out Sept 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 16 hours ago, RIPPA said: The Flair one is out Sept 8 Not true: http://awfulannouncing.com/espn/ric-flair-30-30-air-espn-fall-further-push-wwe-coverage.html We still don’t know when this will air. On Tuesday, Bill Hanstock at Uproxx (citing a paywalled PWInsider.com report) reported a Sept. 8 airdate, but a ESPN spokesperson tells us “That is definitely not the airdate” and “We do not yet have an airdate for the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Shocker - PWI was wrong about something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSC Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I thought we had an all purpose sports documentary thread, but I can't find it so this seems as good a place as any. The new All of Nothin' with the LA Rams is up on Amazon. It's basically picks up where Hard Knocks left off and extends through the entire season, including all the fun of Jeff Fisher getting fired. The little bit they showed of that in the first episode looked fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 The 30 for 30 podcast series is debuting. Deitsch put it over strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I have gotten through Part 2 of Best of Enemies and it is fucking great. All of the hatred I felt for the Celtics during my Sophomore year of High School has some rushing back. God, I never realized how much I really hated Danny Ainge and ML Carr until last night. I used to like Donnie Wahlburg, but his brilliantly smug narration makes me want to punch him in the face. On 6/14/2017 at 3:37 PM, hammerva said: Funny how most of the discussion on ESPN radio was how many games would Kevin McHale have gotten if he clothesline Kurt Rambis like he did in game 3 in 2017. And all he got was a foul. Hell ML might have gotten 2 technical a game for his stuff on the sidelines. This aspect of the documentary is completely fascinating as was the analysis of the debacle that was Game 5. I am not sure if the game today is better or worse for the sheer amount of uber controls set into the rules. Not only would players suffer far more serious consequences for "dirty fouls," Game 5 probably wouldn't have even been played in a facility with questionable climate controls. So does this mean that the playing field for today's game is more even / safer than it was in the 80's, or does it mean that old school NBA teams were tougher than the "prima donnas" of todays game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Watched the newest 30 for 30 last night (Mike & the Mad Dog). It was decent, but I didn't really get into it overmuch. Thought it was kinda low-key given how raucous their show was and how volatile the relationship was. Going in, I expected the filmmakers to set the story of their rise against a larger backdrop. WFAN in general, and Mike & the Mad Dog in particular - really set the tone for what sports talk radio has become. The film acknowledged that, but really didn't explore the bigger picture. I also felt like the feel good coda - they both went on to prove to themselves they could be successful - felt tacked on. Yeah, they've been reasonably successful on their own, but both kinda live off their early success. I don't think either would get much notice if their earlier show hadn't taken off. I would have liked to see them explore the question of whether they really are better together than separately ,or if their show simply came along in the right place at the right time. Basically thought the doc was ok. Just didn't grab me or convince me it was really well done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Austin Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 ESPN officially announces the Flair 30 for 30 for November 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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