Piston Honda Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 People already mentioned them promising to be commercial free like three pages ago Product placement, sponsors for the PPVs. Being able to see real numbers of how many people are going to be watching based on subscriptions should draw good revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Guy Named Tracy Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 To add on to what LooseCannon just said: 23. Does WWE Network programming contain advertisements? Most WWE programming on WWE Network will be commercial-free, however, there will be limited promotional content in select programs. As long as we are not hammered with constant commercial breaks like Hulu Plus, I'm okay with it. I am anxiously awaiting the release of the programming schedule. Do they intend on having blocks of programs at the same time every week? As an example, will Smoky Mountain wrestling be shown from 10 a.m. to noon every Tuesday? Will we see old WCW Saturday night shows every Saturday evening at 6:05 Eastern? I hope so, but I have a feeling subscribers will be subjected to a replay of this week's Legends House 25 times throughout the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstout Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 How do you sell $60 PPVs - especially Wrestlemania - for $9 and expect to profit? I know the number of PPV buys is lower than the number of people they expect to get to subscribe to the network (can they really get a million people?), but Wrestlemania gets close to a million buys, right? Also, what's to stop someone from getting the network and having people over for PPVs (like they do now to split the enormous cost), instead of having all those people buy the network? And what of the semi-casual fan who just watches the PPVs and doesn't give a crap about old SMW or Legends House and just head to a sports bar to watch the PPV instead? They aren't gonna get those people. And what happens the first time the service screws up on a PPV night, which it will? If WWE doesn't liberally make things better, they'll lose subscribers, when they're gonna have trouble attracting mass numbers of them in the first place. If they don't make a sizable investment in the infrastructure of this thing, and instead do it on the cheap, it's gonna cost them plenty in the long run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 It'd be hilarious if they put ad breaks right at two counts so you have to watch the commercial to see if the guy kicks out or not 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I've never in my life used the internet to gain employment. I've never used the internet for anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 It'd be hilarious if they put ad breaks right at two counts so you have to watch the commercial to see if the guy kicks out or not It worked for mid-90's Raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 How do you sell $60 PPVs - especially Wrestlemania - for $9 and expect to profit? I know the number of PPV buys is lower than the number of people they expect to get to subscribe to the network (can they really get a million people?), but Wrestlemania gets close to a million buys, right? Also, what's to stop someone from getting the network and having people over for PPVs (like they do now to split the enormous cost), instead of having all those people buy the network? And what of the semi-casual fan who just watches the PPVs and doesn't give a crap about old SMW or Legends House and just head to a sports bar to watch the PPV instead? They aren't gonna get those people. And what happens the first time the service screws up on a PPV night, which it will? If WWE doesn't liberally make things better, they'll lose subscribers, when they're gonna have trouble attracting mass numbers of them in the first place. If they don't make a sizable investment in the infrastructure of this thing, and instead do it on the cheap, it's gonna cost them plenty in the long run. A $60 ppv is worth $30 to WWE so its not that drastic. The idea is to get subscribers to a number greater than 3x the average ppv buyrate across 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 How do you sell $60 PPVs - especially Wrestlemania - for $9 and expect to profit? I know the number of PPV buys is lower than the number of people they expect to get to subscribe to the network (can they really get a million people?), but Wrestlemania gets close to a million buys, right? Mania got about 600K domestic, 1.1M worldwide, (remember that at first, the network will only be available domestically,) but none of the others get anywhere near that, (Royal Rumble had 364K domestic, nothing else topped 185K.) WWE's probably somewhere under 2.5M domestic buys for 2013, and as FSW noted, WWE is only getting about $30/buy there. Every subscriber represents $120 in revenue, the vast majority of which will go directly to WWE, so all you need to get is around 625K in subscribers to make that up in subscription fees alone, and if WWE can make 4 times as much in ad revenue as previous posts seem to indicate, then there's no way this can't be a huge success for WWE. Also, what's to stop someone from getting the network and having people over for PPVs (like they do now to split the enormous cost), instead of having all those people buy the network? And what of the semi-casual fan who just watches the PPVs and doesn't give a crap about old SMW or Legends House and just head to a sports bar to watch the PPV instead? They aren't gonna get those people. They aren't getting those people now. Those people are, like you said, going to the houses of friends and sports bars. And what happens the first time the service screws up on a PPV night, which it will? Did you fail to note that they're utilizing MLB.tv's infrastructure, rather than creating their own from scratch? If WWE doesn't liberally make things better, they'll lose subscribers, when they're gonna have trouble attracting mass numbers of them in the first place. If they don't make a sizable investment in the infrastructure of this thing, and instead do it on the cheap, it's gonna cost them plenty in the long run. That's a yes to my previous question, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I am very excited about the network but I'll probably give it six months before jumping in. I'll be giving them money for access to the library and the territorial stuff while the current PPV's and other new content will be more frosting than cake. Once "the goods" are available I'm soooooo in. As a dude that has worked in media for almost 15 years, I can tell you the ramifications of what Vince is doing here is HUGE. Trust me when I say that this will be remembered as the first shot of the "ala carte revolution." Imagine that, it took a pissed off Vince McMahon to have the balls to change the entire paradigm...again... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I asked this question earlier but I don't think anyone answered it yet... how fast do you think your internet speed will have to be for this to stream well? Will it matter? Is 3mb fine? Will it beve to be 12mb? Somewhere between? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 They were saying it'll be in 720p, so I wager a 3MB connection will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I asked this question earlier but I don't think anyone answered it yet... how fast do you think your internet speed will have to be for this to stream well? Will it matter? Is 3mb fine? Will it beve to be 12mb? Somewhere between? I can't imagine it would be any different than Netflix's speed requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I don't have much issue with Netflix but sometimes the picture gets a little grainy.. I don't know if that's a connection thing or its to do with Netflix itself. This is the only thing that concerns me... I hear MLB.TV is great but for something like wrestlemania I don't want it falling into a grainy resolution, I'd prefer HD quality throughout.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 MLB.tv says that to get HD, you need "an Internet connection with consistent bandwidth of at least 3Mbps". My read is that if your 3Mb is a real 3Mb ] Sorry. I genuinely apologize. Anyway, if your 3Mbps connection is pretty reliably 3Mbps, you should be fine. If that's an optimistic take on what your real bandwidth is, you might have issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 http://www.speedtest.net/ Go there, select a server in the NYC/CT area, and test it a few times, off hours, peak hours, and see about what you're getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I could always upgrade to the next level, I Think its 5 dollars a month extra but I'd have to double check.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 http://www.speedtest.net/ Apparently I should watch from work (165Mbps on that test). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 AT&T snuck up on me with this shit. Back in the day when I signed up it was for "high-speed internet".. there were no levels to it from what I recall.. now come to find out I have a shit connection compared to what else is out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 http://www.speedtest.net/ Apparently I should watch from work (165Mbps on that test). Gotta love businesses with 1000Mbps circuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfredoE Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Damn my internet is slow, but it works fine for Netflix, Amazon Prime, youtube, etc. Uploading videos though, takes forever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I might just try the network first to see how it runs and then upgrade if I have to later on. I'm considering ordering mania through traditional PPV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I don't think I'll ever watch it on my laptop, strictly the 360 or Roku. My laptop is shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Yeah, my home PC's a POS. I'll get this through PS3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnowsWrestling Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I am anxiously awaiting the release of the programming schedule. Do they intend on having blocks of programs at the same time every week? As an example, will Smoky Mountain wrestling be shown from 10 a.m. to noon every Tuesday? Will we see old WCW Saturday night shows every Saturday evening at 6:05 Eastern? I hope so, but I have a feeling subscribers will be subjected to a replay of this week's Legends House 25 times throughout the week. It's an ondemand type service, they would not need to schedule old stuff like that, it will all just be available. I imagine at some point they will be like "next week we will be releasing WCW Saturday Night 1993". Then you can just go on and watch the whole year as you would like. The only live programming will be new programming, legends house, pre-shows, "new daily show", nxt, probably docs/dvds, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 They were saying it'll be in 720p, so I wager a 3MB connection will be fine. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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