cool arrow Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 It was a middle rope power bomb. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I was hoping there would be multiple pages discussing that spot. This board is all about killing the Davey Richards of the world over stuff like that. ARE WE JUST GOING TO IGNORE IT? WILL NO ONE DEFEND IT? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 It was a middle rope power bomb. Just saying. Yeah, it isn't like he kicked out at one either. I didn't see anything wrong with the kick out, top rope suplexs get kicked out of all the time and I think they looked way more dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 He is allowed to kick out of stuff that you wouldn't even expect Super Cena to kick out of. There is not a move in the wrestling world that I couldn't see Cena kicking out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 It was a middle rope power bomb. Just saying. Yeah, it isn't like he kicked out at one either. I didn't see anything wrong with the kick out, top rope suplexs get kicked out of all the time and I think they looked way more dangerous. YAY! Someone stepping up to the plate! There is a difference between kicking out of a superplex and kicking out of a top rope version of THE FINISHER OF YOUR RETURNING STAR. That in and of itself is crazy. No one uses a fucking powerbomb for years and now Cena and Harper are busting out the sit down version two weeks before Batista comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Wyatt Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Bryan and Harper never should have done that spot but that's not the worst thing I've ever seen on WWE tv. I remember at Summerslam 2010 Cena took a DDT on the exposed concrete floor, made it back in the ring before a 10 count AND beat 2 guys clean in the middle of the ring. That's a little more egregious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I was hoping there would be multiple pages discussing that spot. This board is all about killing the Davey Richards of the world over stuff like that. ARE WE JUST GOING TO IGNORE IT? WILL NO ONE DEFEND IT? Also: It's not like he got straight up and hit him with the running knee. YAY! Someone stepping up to the plate! There is a difference between kicking out of a superplex and kicking out of a top rope version of THE FINISHER OF YOUR RETURNING STAR. That in and of itself is crazy. No one uses a fucking powerbomb for years and now Cena and Harper are busting out the sit down version two weeks before Batista comes back. So when Batista hits Bryan with it 3 minutes into the match and pins him clean, it'll bury Bryan AND Harper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The spot itself would have been an awesome end to the match or a 10-count spot or anything else, really. It's on Harper as much as Bryan because I don't even mind the kick out, but you can't go straight into the cover after a spot like that. Lay around or something, christ. I really just want someone who throws around the "Doing it in a gym isn't the same as doing it at WM" card to chime in. They wasted that spot on the first leg of a gauntlet match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I will be curious when Vince shows up, on what I now predict to be the post-Royal Rumble Raw, to see how everything goes from there. When Vince shows up and we begin the Road to Wrestlemania, I'll be able to fully judge how this is playing out. Brock gunning for the title holder and Bryan potentially joining the Wyatts while The Authority's boys The Shield begin to tear apart could be exciting. Could be. But seriously, if Summer of Punk was too complicated for them, then this could be too. Nexus played out poorly, no matter what angle you want to view it from. Barrett could have been made a star beating Cena at SummerSlam, instead of a three minute comedy spot on Raw. Beyond him The Nexus has left us with what, Darren Young? The repackaged Ryback? Justin Gabriel, Main Event superstar? Bryan is lucky he didn't get stuck in with The Nexus, he escaped the stink of it all getting fired. It should have been bigger after that initial attack on Cena and Punk. Instead we ended up with The Corre and The New Nexus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 One really cool thing about these next few weeks is the potential to see Bryan play a non-underdog role. He is built to be the underdog, but I've always considered ultra-violent, tie-choking, i'm way too fucking good Bryan to be the best. It's the one thing I miss about Danielson that his current run with the WWE hasn't been able to replicate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbinger Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 YAY! Someone stepping up to the plate! There is a difference between kicking out of a superplex and kicking out of a top rope version of THE FINISHER OF YOUR RETURNING STAR. That in and of itself is crazy. No one uses a fucking powerbomb for years and now Cena and Harper are busting out the sit down version two weeks before Batista comes back. Meh, the last thing on my mind was Batista after that spot & until you wrote it, so he will be fine.... And it was the middle turnbuckle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kropotkin's Beard Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I was hoping there would be multiple pages discussing that spot. This board is all about killing the Davey Richards of the world over stuff like that. ARE WE JUST GOING TO IGNORE IT? WILL NO ONE DEFEND IT? Also: It's not like he got straight up and hit him with the running knee. YAY! Someone stepping up to the plate! There is a difference between kicking out of a superplex and kicking out of a top rope version of THE FINISHER OF YOUR RETURNING STAR. That in and of itself is crazy. No one uses a fucking powerbomb for years and now Cena and Harper are busting out the sit down version two weeks before Batista comes back. So when Batista hits Bryan with it 3 minutes into the match and pins him clean, it'll bury Bryan AND Harper... No it won't. It's Batista's finisher. He executes it far better than anybody else, and has done it for years and years. Even when he was on a break he spent his time powerbombing strangers, just to keep from going rusty. Or alternatively, the chances of most people remembering this even happened by the time Bryan vs Batista happens are quite small,, it was one spot on the last Raw of the year, hardly the hugest event ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Or alternatively, the chances of most people remembering this even happened by the time Bryan vs Batista happens are quite small,, it was one spot on the last Raw of the year, hardly the hugest event ever. Exactly! I'm 100% sure we are on different sides of this debate, but... EXACTLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 No it won't. It's Batista's finisher. He executes it far better than anybody else, and has done it for years and years. Even when he was on a break he spent his time powerbombing strangers, just to keep from going rusty. I'd almost rather see the video of that than any match Batista could have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 For those that hate this angle, what's the worst case scenario you see unfolding? And please put up a realistic answer.Bryan becomes the Wyatt family's whipping boy, the audience begs for him to turn back, the wait and see bunch creams themselves in anticipation for a turn that only comes after Bryan has lost his heat, and when it finally does, and the crowd doesn't give a shit, you'll be telling us all "SEE? SEE? YOU JUST HAD TO WAIT!" at which point Bryan goes off and has a feud with Miz or something. When has Bryan lost his heat in the past? He's been losing his heat since the day after Summerslam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kropotkin's Beard Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Or alternatively, the chances of most people remembering this even happened by the time Bryan vs Batista happens are quite small,, it was one spot on the last Raw of the year, hardly the hugest event ever. Exactly! I'm 100% sure we are on different sides of this debate, but... EXACTLY. I totally understand that view point. I'm not really on any side to be honest, except that I don't think this will end up "burying" Bryan or Harper come Batista powerbombing Bryan & him not getting up from it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I was hoping there would be multiple pages discussing that spot. This board is all about killing the Davey Richards of the world over stuff like that. ARE WE JUST GOING TO IGNORE IT? WILL NO ONE DEFEND IT? I still think the power bomb vs Cena should have ended Rollins. I haven't seen this other match yet. It's possible it made sense in the context of the match though. WWE really needs to have matches end with something other than finishers now and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 You mean matches ending in rollups after one of the wresters gets distracted by someone else's music isn't good enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzalez Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Come on, that spot is barely used anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrag Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I was hoping there would be multiple pages discussing that spot. This board is all about killing the Davey Richards of the world over stuff like that. ARE WE JUST GOING TO IGNORE IT? WILL NO ONE DEFEND IT? I still think the power bomb vs Cena should have ended Rollins. I haven't seen this other match yet. It's possible it made sense in the context of the match though. WWE really needs to have matches end with something other than finishers now and again. I would like your opinion on that spot when you get around to watching it. It really brought me out of it. Totally agree on the Cena/Rollins stuff. That would have been the perfect ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w. josh Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I agree that Harper should have delayed the cover, but it really wasn't as bad as you want it to be. He took a non-finisher (as in, not his opponent's finisher) from the middle rope and kicked out at two and a half. He didn't get his head caved in, didn't take it on a chair or concrete, and didn't pop up and hit three more moves immediately before selling. It was a huge near-fall designed to put over how DB Never Gives Up so that it had more impact when he Gave Up at the end. Also, Barrett sounds more like Lemmy Kilmeister every week. Maybe he's trying to subliminally suck up to HHH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Oh so Bryan is going to be facing miz on superstars every week? I thought we were going to get realistic answers... You've described everyone who has criticized the booking as "not happy until Bryan wins the world championship and beats everyone for a year", and you couldn't even summarize a worst-case scenario post without exaggerating. Your grasp on what is and is not realistic is questionable. Okay, so if I'm as far off as you claim... then please tell me what would make Bryan..lets call them "fanboys"...happy? He just took up a fucking hour of time to end RAW in what is a clear main or semi-main event angle. He's still referencing "the machine" aka The Authority and/or John Cena. What the hell else do you want? He's as close to being Cena as anyone else.. Who in the company is better off than Bryan right now outside of Cena? MAYBE Punk...? Who else? I'm a huge Bryan fan and I love the start to this angle with the Wyatts. I'm not the least bit concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallacy! Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 When I read "wait and see" comments, all I see is: "I can change him. He loves me. He won't hit me again. It's my fault." And now, great moments in "let's wait and see where this goes" history... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 It is a really bad track record. Really, really bad. I mean, that whole Mega Powers Explode thing went pretty well, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Spotty indy-esque selling from Bryan is nothing new. Look at the Orton match from a few weeks ago. He went from actling like his arm was about to fall off to skinning the cat and applying the Yes Lock with no apparent difficulty. In addition, I guess you just have to accept the fact that in WWE, finishers have magical opponent-finishing properties that other moves don't. An even more egregious example was in that street fight between Damien Sandow and Dolph Ziggler. In that match, a DDT onto a steel chair only got a nearfall, but a full nelson slam onto a garbage can got the pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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