Johnny Sorrow Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I'm sorry, but them dropping to a Sherri's Berries read in the middle of Chavo and Chris being incredibly emotional and heart wrenching talking about Benoit in part two made me laugh out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 You know what, for some reason, I completely overlooked all of the shit Chavo has seen in his life. How he doesn't have PTSD is beyond me. Or maybe he does. God...That guy has seen some shit in his day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george young Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 On a lighter note, I loved Chavo hulk hoganing World War 3, when Jericho said it was a 60 man battle royal, and Chavo corrects his saying it was 90 men. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Very intense conversation Chavo and Y2J had. How often do you get to hear something like this from the horse's mouth so to speak? Deserves more love. Got a lot of respect for Chavo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ray Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I didn't realize this but apparently Talk is Jericho is now 2 times a week: Wednesday and Fridays. Also, Jericho just tweeted that he's supposed to be on @midnight on March 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 It's interesting that Chavo, who was with him more than anyone, is pretty dismissive of the concussion issue. He clearly doesn't buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Yeah but that could just be his pride talking too. Admitting you may have missed signs means that maybe you could have done something to prevent a tragedy and that's a lot for one person to try to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I go back and forth on the concussion thing. It didn't help and was probably a factor, but the whole "blame the concussions!" might be people trying to make themselves feel better. Guys like Mick Foley and Tommy Dreamer are almost certainly way more fucked up with brain damage than Benoit was, but you know there's not a chance in hell of them ever doing anything like that. Guy had something up with him, even beyond the physical issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 i'm guessing no two brain things work the same, so if you have a guy who has some problems due to brain damage, they could manifest themselves in worse ways if there's other factors. Sorta like how a Junior Seau might went up going out one way but some guys like a Jim McMahon handle it a different way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivpvideos Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 My theory has always been that he killed his wife in a fit of rage, realized what he had done and killed his kid so he wouldn't have to grow up where his mother was murdered by his famous father and all that would go with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Why leave his other kid alive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivpvideos Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 He didn't kill that kids mother. Just my theory on the matter, who knows what goes on in the mind of a madman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Very intense conversation Chavo and Y2J had. How often do you get to hear something like this from the horse's mouth so to speak? Deserves more love. Got a lot of respect for Chavo. I was bawling like a baby listening to him talk about finding Eddie. Haven't listened to part 2 yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 On a lighter note, I loved Chavo hulk hoganing World War 3, when Jericho said it was a 60 man battle royal, and Chavo corrects his saying it was 90 men. It was 90 men, brother! I threw out all 89 of them by myself with one arm! And every one of them died the next day, brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 My theory has always been that he killed his wife in a fit of rage, realized what he had done and killed his kid so he wouldn't have to grow up where his mother was murdered by his famous father and all that would go with it. Seems likely, but I don't think that's mutually exclusive from concussion issues. The rationale that would be going on in his head under the circumstance you laid out is still quite fucking twisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 i'm guessing no two brain things work the same, so if you have a guy who has some problems due to brain damage, they could manifest themselves in worse ways if there's other factors. Sorta like how a Junior Seau might went up going out one way but some guys like a Jim McMahon handle it a different way For all its flaws (and it had many) Ring of Hell made a great argument that he was a deeply screwed up guy long before the concussions and even before he got into wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 My impression after listening to the interview is that Benoit was a really strange, weird guy. They described him as someone with almost no emotion. Someone who would frequently disappear and fall off the face of the earth for months at a time. And this was coming from people who were his best friends. Who knows what caused him to snap, but that type of behavior isn't normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincey Greene Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Not entirely sure why anyone would say Foley or Dreamer would necessarily have more head trauma than Benoit. There's definitely evidence that sub concussive head trauma adds up, and he dropped that diving headbutt a couple hundred times a year. For all the stupid shit he did, Dreamer worked once or twice a week at most for the vast majority of his career, and while Foley took a lot of head trauma, I don't know that he took more than Benoit either. I also think a lot more than concussions or steroids were going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallacy! Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 It just seems pointless to try to figure it out. To quote "Paid in Full".. niggas get shot everyday, B. But seriously, murder is a daily occurrence in America. Granted, killing your wife and kid ain't exactly the norm, but how many news stories do you see of a kid wiping out his whole family with dad's gun? Or dad or mom killing themselves and the kids over something stupid like debt? There are a million reasons why people do this insane shit. It's just as likely that it's Eminem and Grand Theft Auto's fault than it is concussions or steroids or drugs or the rigors of the road. Maybe Benoit was just always fucked up and he didn't go over the edge, so to speak, until the incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 So anyway.... Charlie Benante and Mike Portnoy on this week. i like that Jericho's having a lot of music guests on too, I was afraid there would be a lot of wrestling overlap between him and Austin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Faulconer Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Chavo Jr. really mixes up the facts when he tells a story. I'm not outright saying that he isn't telling the truth about what he knows or doesn't know about Benoit but then...I probably should? We shouldn't expect him to have photographic memories of his entire career and those of his friends or family but he seems to dance around certain things and confuse the facts about others. He did it a lot on the MLW interview a few months ago too. He was talking about a couple of (at the very least...probably more) significant tragedies that happened to his close friends and family so I don't doubt that it would be hard to be more consistent when he recounts them. I mean...World War 3 had 90 guys??? Anybody could search a second and find out that isn't true. And there is probably other stuff that is more significant but who really would want to call him on his inconsistencies? Jericho seems more honest in the simple fact that his stories tend to stay the same no matter how often he tells them. He just likes to hammer lame jokes into the ground over and over again too much. I don't usually listen to his musical guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallacy! Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 So anyway.... Charlie Benante and Mike Portnoy on this week. i like that Jericho's having a lot of music guests on too, I was afraid there would be a lot of wrestling overlap between him and Austin. I like that he's doing metal stuff too. He's really a natural. One of the greatest pieces I've audio I've ever heard is from around 2006, Jericho was on Eddie Trunk's radio show with Scott Ian and Sebastian Bach when Axl Rose randomly decided to text Bach and drive over to the studio to join them on the air. They all proceeded to swap stories for the next hour and a half or so. There's also a Mike Piazza cameo in there somewhere. Jericho fit in perfectly and told a really funny story about Axl denying him an autograph when he was younger. I'll have to dig that up. I have it on one of my computers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I think its cool jericho has a varied guest list. Not that im going to listen to them, but i dont want all these podcasts rotating the same guests or being on each other's shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 i'm guessing no two brain things work the same, so if you have a guy who has some problems due to brain damage, they could manifest themselves in worse ways if there's other factors. Sorta like how a Junior Seau might went up going out one way but some guys like a Jim McMahon handle it a different way For all its flaws (and it had many) Ring of Hell made a great argument that he was a deeply screwed up guy long before the concussions and even before he got into wrestling. It was terrible and nonsense. No great arguments, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 It taught me never eat the yogurt from the FMW Dojo's fridge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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